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  1. #161
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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...hyperhexer.jpg

    15% HP and Attack Speed Bonus are innate :3

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Wow Seki, where'd you manage to get one of those from? I've got about 200+ pictures under my belt from Zhayolm Apkallu's and the best I've got was a Attack Speed +50 inherit. Also, were you using HQ or NQ plates?

    Question: Since the cap for skills seems to be 50, wouldn't Attack Speed Bonus (caped at 50), and Attack Speed +50 be the same thing?

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Annatar
    Wow Seki, where'd you manage to get one of those from? I've got about 200+ pictures under my belt from Zhayolm Apkallu's and the best I've got was a Attack Speed +50 inherit.

    Question: Since the cap for skills seems to be 50, wouldn't Attack Speed Bonus (caped at 50), and Attack Speed +50 be the same thing?
    No, it would just make it 100.
    50+50= 100, I would assume it works like that.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Falconblade
    Quote Originally Posted by Annatar
    Wow Seki, where'd you manage to get one of those from? I've got about 200+ pictures under my belt from Zhayolm Apkallu's and the best I've got was a Attack Speed +50 inherit.

    Question: Since the cap for skills seems to be 50, wouldn't Attack Speed Bonus (caped at 50), and Attack Speed +50 be the same thing?
    No, it would just make it 100.
    50+50= 100, I would assume it works like that.
    They meant Attack Speed Bonus Lv50 would be the same as Attack Speed +50, not combnied...

    and I would assume so.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    NQ camera, NQ plates, Zhayolm Apkallu

    Started out at level 8

    Also, I seriously doubt that Attack Speed Bonus (Lv50) = Attack Speed +50, because 1) Bonus costs more FP and 2) You have to level it to get the effect

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    I would assume Attack Speed +50 is a straight -Delay, and Attack Speed Bonus is a % that increases with level.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Crawlers/Eruca start with 59 FP

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    From observations regarding enspell damage, it seems that lvl 50 enspell is about twice as good as enspell +25. Probably if Attack speed bonus +50 is -50delay, maybe each level of attack speed bonus is -2 delay, ending up at -100 at level 50.

    There is no way they are the same, because one is about 50% more points than the other.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    http://mectradegroup.com/FFXI/now.JPG

    str 25 (from plate), auto regain (kinda random cos taurus plates dont even have those) are innates

    need 1 more FP so i can remove max HP and get instant stoneskin

    btw just to clear up: instant stoneskin is 17 FP right? i checked wiki's sub guide by someone else and had mistake that says dread spike is 30 fp. it says stoneskin is 17, so i dont know if its right and i havent seen any in baz yet ;\

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Have an Insta Stoneskin plate in my inventory, it is 17 FP.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    The Instant Phalanx I have on me is 23 FP, not sure if it's the same.

    edit: guess it's different.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    The Instant Phalanx I have on me is 23 FP, not sure if it's the same.

    edit: guess it's different.
    Instant Phalanx is different. (I know because I got Instant Stoneskin whilst looking for Instant Phalanx!) I think Aquaveil/Protect/Shell/Stoneskin is 17. I've only heard rumours of Instant Haste >_> but I'd assume it's 23 or higher.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    thanks guys

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Eticket
    Crawlers/Eruca start with 59 FP
    at what level?

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Judai
    The Instant Phalanx I have on me is 23 FP, not sure if it's the same.

    edit: guess it's different.
    Instant Phalanx is different. (I know because I got Instant Stoneskin whilst looking for Instant Phalanx!) I think Aquaveil/Protect/Shell/Stoneskin is 17. I've only heard rumours of Instant Haste >_> but I'd assume it's 23 or higher.
    Instant Haste is 38, I have one sitting in my mog for my enstun chigoe

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Thanks to Mattthemaster, I got a chance to get some shots of The Waughroon Kid, got 3 plates out of four tries (just barely missed fifth attempt).

    1) Beast Killer
    2) Attack Bonus
    3) Critical Hit Rate Bonus

    Turned all three into reflectors
    Level 6
    Main : Monk
    Sub : Warrior
    FP : 48

    Unfortunately, no innates on any. If you can get one of these bad boys with innate Crit bonus, I could see it being pretty fricking awesome.

    Does anyone know how much FP a normal Goobbue starts out with?

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaelan
    Quote Originally Posted by Eticket
    Crawlers/Eruca start with 59 FP
    at what level?
    The Eruca I got from Zhaylom were all level 8

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    Thanks to Mattthemaster, I got a chance to get some shots of The Waughroon Kid, got 3 plates out of four tries (just barely missed fifth attempt).

    1) Beast Killer
    2) Attack Bonus
    3) Critical Hit Rate Bonus

    Turned all three into reflectors
    Level 6
    Main : Monk
    Sub : Warrior
    FP : 48

    Unfortunately, no innates on any. If you can get one of these bad boys with innate Crit bonus, I could see it being pretty fricking awesome.

    Does anyone know how much FP a normal Goobbue starts out with?

    As far as I've seen every mob of the same family starts with the same FP total, regardless of level, regardless of NM status, regardless of color, etc. All Goobbue start with 48 FP. However, this makes me consider the possibility that a very low level pet (initial lv.3) might end up having slightly more FP in the end through leveling up 6 times more than most people's pets that start at 9. But you would have to be pretty lucky to find a good innate on such a pet, not to mention you probably won't get a good starting job on one, thus wasting 12 FP if you wanted to change it.

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    From my experiences, thats not the case. I started one cluster mob at lv8 (zhayolm clusters) and it had 71 FP. I restarted with another cluster, this time from riverne, which started at lv6 with the same FP. It didn't gain its first FP until the time the first cluster (lv8) would have gotten one, at lv10

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    Re: Pankration Monster Base Data

    Quote Originally Posted by miokomioko
    Quote Originally Posted by Seki
    Thanks to Mattthemaster, I got a chance to get some shots of The Waughroon Kid, got 3 plates out of four tries (just barely missed fifth attempt).

    1) Beast Killer
    2) Attack Bonus
    3) Critical Hit Rate Bonus

    Turned all three into reflectors
    Level 6
    Main : Monk
    Sub : Warrior
    FP : 48

    Unfortunately, no innates on any. If you can get one of these bad boys with innate Crit bonus, I could see it being pretty fricking awesome.

    Does anyone know how much FP a normal Goobbue starts out with?

    As far as I've seen every mob of the same family starts with the same FP total, regardless of level, regardless of NM status, regardless of color, etc. All Goobbue start with 48 FP. However, this makes me consider the possibility that a very low level pet (initial lv.3) might end up having slightly more FP in the end through leveling up 6 times more than most people's pets that start at 9. But you would have to be pretty lucky to find a good innate on such a pet, not to mention you probably won't get a good starting job on one, thus wasting 12 FP if you wanted to change it.
    Lv3 Goobbue start with 46 FP, so I doubt this is the case. My guess is every single mob follows the exact same FP growth in the same way that every single WAR will have the same STR at 75 if they're of the same race, for example (although I'd be willing to be proven wrong if anyone has any actual first-hand information on multiple high level mobs of the same family)

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