Zhayolm: 1F, 5F, 6F Poroggo Madames Info

[Judai]

I expect Alma's group to pop this guy every single day until they get Gote dorp for the good of the community. NEED TO KNOW SET BONUS!!

GOGO Alma's ppl!!

Also, someone said it would be crappy 2% like Assault sets but Askar is confirmed 10% so that makes no sence. I'm betting on 5% personally.

[Shadida]

Zhayolm drop rate is constant enough compared to let's say...arrapago. First floor and 2nd floor will always give you close to the same amount of cell. 3rd floor is random on hp/mp, but you get 3 stats cell on every kill, no? The madame should cover every needed hp/mp if you got screwed.
If there is anything, it's probably a static amount that is doable for 6 people (the minimum requiremed for salvage). What happen if someone dc? Probably the same thing that would happen on a lamp floor in Nyzul.

Second floor features some drops that are chance-based, including Virga and Undulatus cell. I remember going to Zhayolm as RNG once and getting 0 Undulatus and having to wait until floor 6 to get it. That sucked - but just think if that happened and you had 0 chance of popping Madame as a result...

[Kaylia]

Second floor features some drops that are chance-based, including Virga and Undulatus cell. I remember going to Zhayolm as RNG once and getting 0 Undulatus and having to wait until floor 6 to get it. That sucked - but just think if that happened and you had 0 chance of popping Madame as a result...

Yeah, it happened to us once, the first day our brd got that ballad+1 horn. However, it's only a problem if you are going for the "remove all pathos" instead of something like "uses 100 cells", which is what I was saying in my post

[Niki]

Just popped her again with same strat as posted above and again with 6 member. no dorp
Got screwed on Undulatus cells, cleared whole floor and got only 4, had to duplicate them again.

[Helm]

I'm still wondering how plausible it is to kill all the southern madames to possibly pop the 6th floor one.

[aurik]

Very plausible. My group of 6 literally took a 10 minute break after floor 4 so that we entered floor 5 at 66'; we could have easily been at 4FS under 45 min.

[Jedite]

3FN drops
Ares and Morrigan 15

4FN drops
Skadi, Usukane and Marduk 15

5FN drops
Skadi, Usukane and Marduk 35

So maybe, just MAYBE (and it would be fucked up)
5FS drops Marduk Head

And 6F drops Ares and Morrigan

[Seditedi]

If 6F is the case then we'll first need to nail down the pop condition of 5FS, which is probably similar to 5FN, but slightly different (probably easier to pop). If 6F is indeed kill all madames in the zone, this one will be very tricky to pop, lol. Socket NM, not too hard, clearing 3FS, not that bad, 4FS will be an issue I think, would be tough to meet the 45/47ish minute pop time requirement, and if 5FS pops would also have to kill that, which won't be an issue once that pop condition is nailed down.

[Starr]

At least 8% on all sets please >< 5% underpowered, 10% overpowered IMO.

+8% Double Attack
+8% Crit hit rate
+8% Fast Cast
+8 Magic Attack Bonus
+8% Haste

[Seditedi]

Mmm 8% would be perfect, hopefully Alma gets some good luck with that frog :D

[Xerlic]

Did Zhayolm today with 6 people. Entered on Iceday.

1f - Cleared 4 inner rooms plus 1 extra room of Ziz and Bugard to get 6 of everything. Killed 2 mamools. Elapsed time: 17 minutes

2f - Ported up in Lizard room. Cleared the whole room plus the mamool. Used the socked to dupe Ranged cells. Killed enough from the rest of the rooms to fully equip everyone. No other mamools were popped. Elapsed time: 48 minutes

3f - Went south and killed the 3 smaller rooms of Mamools plus pulled a few extras from the long room in order to clear all stat pathos. Elapsed time: 66 minutes

4f - Invis'd up and killed Third Rampart since we entered on Iceday. Rampart spawned Marid, but we did not kill it. Elapsed time: 70 minutes

5f - Poroggo Madame is up.

http://img455.imageshack.us/img455/4737/enlilxh7.jpg

Time to buy ores/ingots.

[Gwynplaine]

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A jp blog is reporting 6/6 full unlocks (if the crappy google translate is right) spawned the madame, no drops.
So far so good with 6/6 full unlocks.

6F Madame is most likely the location of the rest of the 35s.

Unlike north frog (people always went south and rarely tried to pop it), this one is scary. No one ever popped it after 340583405 runs. Probably going to have to wait another 6 months before someone pop it accidently like we did for the Qiqirn.

That simply won't do, I'm going to get some damn Morrigan Pigaches and I'm not waiting 6 more months lol
Although Zhayolm has proven to be mercilessly secretive with its 35 armor, I'm actually optimistic that 6F madame will be found sometime soon. 5FN was undesired because it requires going out of your way to spawn it, probably restricting you from doing Battleclad in the same run. 6F on the other hand is always reached from either side, and people need to spend time on this floor just in order to do Battleclad Chariot. So hopefully there will be some generous groups willing to toss in a little experimentation on the way to BC.

The amount possible spawn conditions are finite and it's only a matter of time (although faster than 9 months I hope). The one thing I'd like to try is the inverse Arrapago 6F condition, defeating both of the floors ramparts as fast as possible after zoning in. It's simple, and relatively easy for any group heading to BC to try out. Otherwise defeating the previous floors poroggo madames could be worth checking out, but would require some snappy timing and cell lotting.

The most feesible route to do that seems like it would be:
1F Hopefully the 1F spawned gent wouldn't count but who knows.
2F socket NM, since you'll likely want extra equip cells anyway to spawn 5F.
3F south, since you'll need to clear some mamool ja for HP/MP/Stats anyway and south has less to clear to spawn the madame.
4F south, seemingly has a wider time span to spawn within, and less gents that could link.
5F south, may possibly require less pathos unlocked to spawn, and less gears in the way.

[NynJa]

its been spawned with less than 6/6 full unlock though, which means theres something else missing.

[Judai]

At least 8% on all sets please >< 5% underpowered, 10% overpowered IMO.

+8% Double Attack
+8% Crit hit rate
+8% Fast Cast
+8 Magic Attack Bonus
+8% Haste

Is it wrong I am hoping for only 5% Haste boost? Any more would diminish Black Belt.

Also, 5% is the exact amount of haste you lose from switching from regular Haste set-up to Usukane. I really don't expect it to be more then 5% though because SE doesn't like to destroy older gear.

[Kaylia]

That simply won't do, I'm going to get some damn Morrigan Pigaches and I'm not waiting 6 more months lol
Although Zhayolm has proven to be mercilessly secretive with its 35 armor, I'm actually optimistic that 6F madame will be found sometime soon. 5FN was undesired because it requires going out of your way to spawn it, probably restricting you from doing Battleclad in the same run. 6F on the other hand is always reached from either side, and people need to spend time on this floor just in order to do Battleclad Chariot. So hopefully there will be some generous groups willing to toss in a little experimentation on the way to BC.

The amount possible spawn conditions are finite and it's only a matter of time (although faster than 9 months I hope). The one thing I'd like to try is the inverse Arrapago 6F condition, defeating both of the floors ramparts as fast as possible after zoning in. It's simple, and relatively easy for any group heading to BC to try out. Otherwise defeating the previous floors poroggo madames could be worth checking out, but would require some snappy timing and cell lotting.

The most feesible route to do that seems like it would be:
2F socket NM, since you'll likely want extra equip cells anyway to spawn 5F.
3F south, since you'll need to clear some mamool ja for HP/MP/Stats anyway and south has less to clear to spawn the madame.
4F south, seemingly has a wider time span to spawn within, and less gents that could link.
5F south, may possibly require less pathos unlocked to spawn, and less gears in the way.

When I posted it, I had Arrapago in mind. It's easy to get to 6th floor and you're usually well geared, but it took people a long time to figure the trigger. There isnt an infinite number of possibility, but zhayolm and arrapago 6th floor is the proof it can takes month to figure out a pop condition.

[Almalexia]

At least 8% on all sets please >< 5% underpowered, 10% overpowered IMO.

+8% Double Attack
+8% Crit hit rate
+8% Fast Cast
+8 Magic Attack Bonus
+8% Haste

Is it wrong I am hoping for only 5% Haste boost? Any more would diminish Black Belt.

MNK isn't the only job that can wear Usukane. :wink:

[Narse]

Noteworthy mobs:

1st floor mamools (4)
1st floor frogs (4)
2nd floor mamools (4)
2nd floor slot NM (1)
2nd floor socket NM (1)
3rd floor frogs (only 1 possible)
4th floor frog (4th floor S may be possible, N one is very likely impossible to hit if targetting other noteworthy mobs)
5th floor frog (1), chariot (1)
6th floor chariot (1)

Maybe ramparts (infinite if you go the N path, I think, no?)

I'd say it's possible to hit, excluding ramparts, 15 with a good effort, 12 should be pretty easy, but at the same time, I don't think I've ever read any instance of people doing even 10 of these.

[Soraan]

Has anyone who has popped madame tried going up to 6th floor and seeing if it was up? All these ppl posting pics of drop seem to stop after getting a 35 finally

Very glad to see some 35s, and drop rate seems pretty high. Or ya'll are all just insanely lucky.

[Judai]

At least 8% on all sets please >< 5% underpowered, 10% overpowered IMO.

+8% Double Attack
+8% Crit hit rate
+8% Fast Cast
+8 Magic Attack Bonus
+8% Haste

Is it wrong I am hoping for only 5% Haste boost? Any more would diminish Black Belt.

MNK isn't the only job that can wear Usukane. :wink:

I know :3 but idc about anyone else D:< well.. I got SAM too but yea, I don't want my BB losing it's glimmer;;

Has anyone who has popped madame tried going up to 6th floor and seeing if it was up? All these ppl posting pics of drop seem to stop after getting a 35 finally

Very glad to see some 35s, and drop rate seems pretty high. Or ya'll are all just insanely lucky.

Yes, most of the people have ported up and no 6F Madame sighting.

[Niki]

Has anyone who has popped madame tried going up to 6th floor and seeing if it was up? All these ppl posting pics of drop seem to stop after getting a 35 finally

Very glad to see some 35s, and drop rate seems pretty high. Or ya'll are all just insanely lucky.

We did, wasnt up