Zhayolm: 1F, 5F, 6F Poroggo Madames Info

[Pendas]

Maybe the 5f Madame has some obvious yet easily overlooked trick like taking the porter to the Kirin Room. Warping up on an Even Number on the game clock results in 5fn spawn while warping up on an Odd Number results in 5fs spawn. Read this entire thread and didn't hear any mention of it so I'm just throwing it out there...

[Ultimax]

http://www.coachingtoexcellence.com/...915_003900.png

5F North Poroggo Madame [Found it!]

[Rynoa]

w00t for my pic!

[Kaino]

Alright so i asked people to post that picture for me. Yes that is 5F North Frog, No it didn't drop anything.
Fun Factoids about our run. 7pl entered exactly when wind day started. Moon is dumb doesnt effect anything but it was 15%ish when we went in. Fun list of things we killed.
Floor1 Nin Mammol X4
All mobs in the 4 center rooms.
Ported up NE
Floor2
Killed Every single mob on entire floor.
Including all 4 Mammol.
Fully unlocked everyones armor(no point but fun fact)
Floor3
Every Single Mammol on S path
Fully unlocked all stats(once again no point but hey you never know)
Did Not Kill rampart and spawn 3F - S madame
Ported up North portal
Floor4 Killed all 6 Mammol in room before Ramparts
Killed 2nd rampart
Floor5 Froggy up on zone in.
Killed froggy nothing else
Sadly no drop no chest
Ran to Floor 6
Shockingly no Frog, Not that I actually expected one.

So thats 38 Mammol, Not counting pets thats 40 mobs that were not mammol. There were 15 pets.

Times per floor(no door was opened early on any floor) tbh i didnt clock any of this exact i do know we entered floor 5 w/ 35min left about. We hit 2nd floor at about the 25min mark. We hit 3rd floor at about 45 min mark. 4th floor about oh 60-65min mark.

I dont think i left anything out but hey who knows every bit a data helps

[Almalexia]

Obligatory "it boils!"

Just to be mind-flayingly clear on some of your points:

Floor1 Nin Mammol X4
All mobs in the 4 center rooms.

And nothing else was touched, or even aggroed?

Floor2
Killed Every single mob on entire floor.
Including all 4 Mammol.

What was the order in which you cleared the rooms?

Floor3
Every Single Mammol on S path

Every single one, even beyond the three south rooms? The mention of the rampart implies that you did, but just to be sure: every southern Mamool?

[Wizerd]

Alma will be duplicating your run for weeks just to get a drop off 5FN. :D

[Uzor]

I'll be duplicating the run tomorrow and/or Tuesday.

Hell, might be doing it until we get a drop from it.

[Gwynplaine]

Finally, something. A picture at least. Thanks a lot for your info.

Well I might as well post my groups run from thursday because it was similar with some key differences. Unfortunately I don't have exact mobs listed and times per floor because the program I used didn't keep track properly.

1F: We cleared almost all of the four inner rooms except maybe one mob we knew did not drop cells. Killed all four NIN mamool before second room in a wing. Farmed 2 more cell mobs in each wings second room. Teleport up using NE.

2F: Clear entire NE room, all doors opened so none were opened manually here. Farmed around 4 mobs from SE. Farmed around 3 mobs from SW. Farmed around 3 mobs from NW. Teleport to 3F.

3F: Farmed all 3 rooms of 4 mamools to the west wing. Killed 3-4 mamools in the large southern room before teleporting north to 4F.

4F: Farmed 3 of the 6 mamool ja here, skipped the others. Defeated Fourth Rampart because we entered on lightsday to teleport to 5F.

5F: Madame wasn't up, didn't spawn after opening the door to 6F or clearing most the gears from first room. Three dead end ramparts do not aggro anything at all whatsoever.

Edit: This was north.

[Kaino]

In response to Almalexia's post.

Correct first floor only the 4 nin mobs and the 4 center rooms were killed and/or Aggroed.
2nd floor NE->NW->SW->SE
3rd floor that is correct every single mammol on the west/south path all the way to the rampart died.

also i realize i didnt count Rampart or Marid in my first post but those died as well

[Kaylia]

Fully unlocked all stats(once again no point but hey you never know)

Having someone fully unlocked could explain why we had pop while training (someone used a cell late). Doubt everyone who popped it had someone fully unlocked tho.

[Suiram]

Repeated Aurik #11 again. This time Madame was up on port up to 5th South. Details of note: let door open automatically instead of manually 2nd floor NE, opened door to portal on 4th floor after room of Mamool was cleared but before Rampart was dead, times were 1st: 19min, 2nd: 17min, 3rd: 35min, 4th: 5min, (5th: 12 min but unimportant). No drop from Madame of course, starting to believe North path is the only way for 35s anyway since the above reported no chest drop, but I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Seditedi]

Are the 4 1F Mamool NINs always up or popped by killing certain mobs? Never really took notice lol. If they pop from killing certain mobs in that wing then it could be considered an NM. Killing all NM mamool may be a madame pop condition for 5N. All 4 on 2F could be considered NM Mamool. Also just for confirmation, you didn't kill any 3N Mamool but cleared all of 3S?

[Kaylia]

NIN on first floor are always up. In the stair next to the first small room

[Almalexia]

Reproduced the run almost exactly as Kaino described. We even entered on Windsday. The differences:

- We were 6 members
- No marid spawned from Second Rampart
- One of our members did not have accessories (Virga) unlocked

Arrived at floor 2-- 14:38
Arrived at floor 3-- 43:02
Arrived at floor 4-- 60:00
Arrived at floor 5-- 66:30

The result:

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...s/5FNboils.jpg

http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g6...ots/5Frogd.jpg

...and no drop, despite extreme anxiety on my part, not even an Armoury Crate.

I am willing to entertain the possibility of a condition being "at least one member of the alliance has no Pathos effects." However, I'm in no mood to fine-tune anything knowing this path works as is. With enough speed, I feel 7 people could knock out all the necessary mobs + 5FN Madame + boss in the same run. GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME AND THEREFORE GOOD ENOUGH FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.

[Kaino]

Repeated my exact same run, a couple differences. NO POP Sadly ;_;
Entered 5 a little slower @70min
Person who ported to 5 had pathos(no rings)
No marid from 2nd rampart
Earth weather in effect going to 5th floor.


Entered exact same day as last time as well.

Ninja edit: Also this run we had someone die on floor 2 by an accident, this didnt occur first run.

[Almalexia]

Person who ported to 5 had pathos(no rings)

The person who took my group up to floor 5 was the same person missing rings, as well.

[Kaino]

I guess that leaves the differences to time/death/and weather. At the momment
Although to be perfectly honest I highly doubt its weather. We spent some time on 5 as well killing gears and ramparts for cards. This also caused no pop. Earth weather popped on and off during this time and no pop.

[Gwynplaine]

Awesome. I'm leaning very quickly to being fully unlocked spawning the madame. It just fits everything so perfectly. Obvious way to test it (assuming it could reliably spawn while on the floor as well as upon entering) would be to simply have the tank wait until 5F to use the last cell to unlock, then see if it spawns. If there's truth to this condition it also seems like a subtle way of being a cock-block to getting 4FN madame on the same run Now to wait and see what this thing drops. Thanks again for your info, I think anyone who's blown AP on this zone appreciates it.

Do you happen to know if there was any difference in the amount of members that were fully unlocked amongst your two groups?

[Almalexia]

If there's truth to this condition it also seems like a subtle way of being a cock-block to getting 4FN madame on the same run

This brings up something that I am about ready to accept:
The three elusive Madames drop multiple pieces of equipment like their Lv.15-yielding sisters. Nothing else we kill in this zone appears to be spitting out 35s, so I hold it to the mobs we've killed the least (5FN, 5FS, 6F) to fill the hole within my Salvage soul.

If these NMs do not have multiple drops, there could be up to three other things that yield 35s! They can't hide that much from us.

[Wizerd]

If there's truth to this condition it also seems like a subtle way of being a cock-block to getting 4FN madame on the same run

This brings up something that I am about ready to accept:
The three elusive Madames drop multiple pieces of equipment like their Lv.15-yielding sisters. Nothing else we kill in this zone appears to be spitting out 35s, so I hold it to the mobs we've killed the least (5FN, 5FS, 6F) to fill the hole within my Salvage soul.

If these NMs do not have multiple drops, there could be up to three other things that yield 35s! They can't hide that much from us.

Doesn't 5FS drop a chest? I'm willing to bet it's just between 5FN and 6F.