Zhayolm: 1F, 5F, 6F Poroggo Madames Info

[TB]

About.Fucking.Time.

[Zarath]

About.Fucking.Time.

My sentiments exactly.... Go figure it's the one thing we didn't look at...

[Seditedi]

Well even if this does prove to be the condition, its unlikely that 6F will be anything similar, so still one more thing to find out about this zone. Also even though many have presumed that 5FS and 4FS probably don't drop 35s its not confirmed thus far.

[Zarath]

Well even if this does prove to be the condition, its unlikely that 6F will be anything similar, so still one more thing to find out about this zone. Also even though many have presumed that 5FS and 4FS probably don't drop 35s its not confirmed thus far.

Hey hey hey, don't be stomping on our hope ; ;

Though it is true, 6F is still a total mystery but gaining more footing for the mysteries of ZR is one step in the right direction either way.

[Sagacious Sundi]

6F condition is X NMs before porting up, porting up at Y time, a fully pathos-clean party of 6 which has the alliance/party leader who zones up, and clear the 6F in Z minutes. I called it.

TIME TO GUESS ZE DROPZ:
5FN: Skadi (I bet you on this, guys!), Usukane, and a Marduk piece
6F: Ares, Morrigan, and the other Marduk piece

[Starr]

sorry if I missed it but what other pieces does he have for the legs? or Skadi altogether?

[Almalexia]

6F Madame is going to drop gote, and we will never so much as accidentally pop her for another 8 months. AV will be defeated before we figure this one out. ('AC

[Sagacious Sundi]

6F Madame is going to drop gote, and we will never so much as accidentally pop her for another 8 months. AV will be defeated, Bahamut will be summonable, Odin will go WHM/THF to flee to our corpses and raise us, and it will be discovered that they really did ninja D. ring/Ridill drop rates before we figure this one out. ('AC

I agree.

[docvicious]

1st floor Porrogo 0 (0)gear for salvage upgrades
2nd floor there is no madame porrogo but there is a NM that drops 1 piece of body gear (1)
3rd floor Madame drops 2 pieces 100% (2)
4th floor madame drops 3 pieces 100% (3)
5th floor madame maybee following this pattern has a chance to drop 4 pieces at random or together or in pairs (4)
6th floor would be the only floor that would drop 2 pieces It could also be 3 and 3 between the 5th and 6th floors

I think it's safe to assume that no pieces drop on the south side of this zone.




*Edit*

Actually now that I look at my own post if you think about it
1st floor has 0 drops
2nd has 1 drop from the NM and then from there it splits up into north and south untill the sixth floor where if you go north or south you still wind up on the same map. Which could exlpain why 6th floor would have only 2 drops

[Avinor]

Just did a run for a pair of 15 morrigan hands:

1st: All middle rooms, all mamool, 1 extra ziz room
2nd: Cleared floor - only 2 ranged drop and I instinctively gave to the bard and ranger, figuring we'd get another
3rd: First 3 small rooms south, everything north + madame
4th: All mamool, 4th rampart, all frogs trying to get an undulatus cell
5th: Ported, lacking on a ranged cell for fully unlocked - no madame.

Completed another Morrigans Cuffs at least, which we'd been putting off for a while.

[tymora]

Entering Earthsday ~2:40 (WAR/NIN DRK/SAM THF/NIN BLM/WHM WHM/BLM RDM/WHM)

1F:
All middle rooms clear, 4 Mamool NINs dead
Cleared 3 extra bugards + Ziz for 6th magic/SJ

Port@21:20

2F:
Doors opened automatically.
-> 2 people missing ranged (4/6 fully unlocked equips)
All rooms clear including 4 mamool, no popped NM
Port@54:00

3F:
Cleared South Route completely, skipped rampart.
All 6 people cleared stats
Port@~74

4FN:
Kill First Rampart only, Madame not up
Port@~76 (by me, fully unlocked)

5FN:
Madame up (Time appears not to be an issue )
(Can be slept)
Ramparts didn't aggro to anything.
-> Did several mistakes here so didn't kill it.

Don't get everyone charmed. It will just regen.

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Someone care to try doing just the bare minimum? Enough cells for everyone to unlock 2 to 3 people but without clearing extra mobs like Mamools...etc

Or perhaps the pop condition is actually killing all 8 Mamools on Floor 1 and 2?
If so, might 6F madame be killing all 4 Gents on Floor 1 and get a certain number of people unlocked?

[Kaylia]

Don't get everyone charmed. It will just regen.

Alternate DoT on it. Dia1 --> bio --> dia 2 --> bio 2. Cast one every 45sec to reset timer. Could also keep a rdm out of range to kite it when everyone is charmed.

[Xerlic]

Or perhaps the pop condition is actually killing all 8 Mamools on Floor 1 and 2?

This is definitely not the case. I'm in Avinor's group, and we cleared all 4 Mamools on the first and second floor, in addition to all 32 North Mamools on 3f plus 12 South Mamool, as well as the 6-8(?) Mamools on the fourth floor which yielded no pop.

It is pretty obvious at this point that the pop condition has to do with completely lifting Pathos. I am personally leaning towards lifting Pathos completely from either the person who initiates the zone or the person who actually ports up to the fifth floor.

[Forbidden16]

Tymora were you the person that also entered your group? Because that's one of the doubts flying around. We just did a Zhayolm run and fully unlocked 2/7 persons, one of them was me who also ported us up, but I wasn't who entered the group.

So at least 2 persons only with full Pathos unlocked not popping it is confirmed.

[Wizerd]

Went with 7: MNK MNK WAR THF RDM BRD BLM

1F
- All 4 inner rooms
- All 4 Mamool Ja
- 2 Puks from outer room
- 4 Ziz from outer room
- 1 Raptor from outer room
- 2 Bugards from outer room

2F
- Accidentally ported up NW (<_<)
- When Mamool Ja popped, I opened the door manually to run down to SE room to get a Lizard for hand cell
- Group finished the Mamool Ja just before I got to the Lizards, and we met back with a Lizard in the middle, killed it for hands (TH4)
- Cleared NE room, only 4 rings and 2 ranged dropped, and different people took them as we assumed more would drop. Only our THF was fully unlockable at this point, and our BRD could have been if he got rings
- Cleared SE room
- Cleared SW room

3F
- Cleared to the South Rampart, up to but without killing it, everyone was unlocked at this point fully except for either rings, ranged, or both

4F
- Killed First Rampart for porter
- Cleared entire floor of Poroggos in an attempt to get Rings or Ranged cells
- Rings dropped on last mob so we gave them to BRD in order to have 2 fully unlocked people
- When we ported up, 2 people were fully unlocked, THF and BRD, but not me (I entered the area). THF ported us up (Forbidden from the post above).

5F
- No pop

6F
- For shits and giggles we killed Chariot first, then 2 Ramparts, then 2 single gear, and nothing popped. Time ran out.

Differences?
- We killed Poroggos on 4F which is appearing to prevent pop?
- I opened a 2F door manually - bad?
- Only 2 people were able to get unlocked. ; ;

[tymora]

Tymora were you the person that also entered your group? Because that's one of the doubts flying around. We just did a Zhayolm run and fully unlocked 2/7 persons, one of them was me who also ported us up, but I wasn't who entered the group.

Yup, I was the one who entered and also the one who did all the warping on all floors.

[aurik]

Completed another run, another no-show by the Madame.
Entered early on Windsday.

Floor 1: inner room + mamool x3, then 1 extra raptor (for opacus), inner room + mamoll + 2 bugards -- didn't get last subjob cell. 13:40

Floor 2: Full clear NE NW SW SE, only 1 ring drop. 38:40

Floor 3: Full south clear, everyone fully unlocked cells. 50:40

Floor 4: 6 Mamool, 2nd Rampart, Marid. 64:01

No pop. Ported up to 6 and caged out.

[Forbidden16]

So on your run only one of your members had full equip since only 1 ring dropped?
And 3/4 mamools on 1F were killed, hmmm.

[Wizerd]

So on your run only one of your members had full equip since only 1 ring dropped?
And 3/4 mamools on 1F were killed, hmmm.

No they killed all 4 Mamools.

They killed the 4FN Mamools though, I don't think any of the pop groups have? But I'm posting this on the fly and need to look over the thread again.

[aurik]

So on your run only one of your members had full equip since only 1 ring dropped?
And 3/4 mamools on 1F were killed, hmmm.

No we killed all 4 mamools on 1F, and 2 of us were fully unlocked (1 dropper = 2 drops)