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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Clearly youre not a story writer. That whole scene with Ivan and Noah was nothing more than Character Development for Noah. We learn so much about him. We see how far hes willing to go, how motivated he is to protect his family and we learn that he is 100% focused on bringing the company down. Noah has gone from Evil, to Good to now Anti-Hero and youre telling me they need to focus on character development more?
    I write stories, and compelling ones at that. I'm not worried about developing character for Bennet. They did a great job. However, if they want the development to mean something maybe it should have been someone we were familiar with... maybe it should have been someone we met before in season 1 whose death had more of an impact. Instead, all we get are idle threats just to get paintings... I mean, really. "Man, it'd be a shame if we erased all the memories of your wife and kids... better give us the info". If he really trained Bennet, he should have known Bennet would just kill him all along. It doesn't make any logical sense. If the guy knew the lengths Bennet would go to, he should have known he would not stop at simply wiping his memory. Again. Good story writers don't introduce characters and attempt to give them depth like they did with Ivan and his family only to just snuff them off the same episode. It doesn't do anything but further the plot and add shallow development.

    So allow me to be redundant for a bit. If they wanted big Bennet Development, they should have had him kill someone a little more integral to his life and not someone we just met 5 minutes ago... not to mention Claire suddenly asking him where he was like she had any reason to in the first place.

    It's not that I don't enjoy development... I just don't enjoy unnecessary plot filler.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    The reason things got so messed up is that Kensei was going to snipe them while they were shooting at the other guy. But since Hiro stopped that, Kensei didn't kill the bad guys which allowed them to loot the village and everything after that has been Hiro trying to fix it.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by kuronosan
    Clearly youre not a story writer. That whole scene with Ivan and Noah was nothing more than Character Development for Noah. We learn so much about him. We see how far hes willing to go, how motivated he is to protect his family and we learn that he is 100% focused on bringing the company down. Noah has gone from Evil, to Good to now Anti-Hero and youre telling me they need to focus on character development more?
    I write stories, and compelling ones at that. I'm not worried about developing character for Bennet. They did a great job. However, if they want the development to mean something maybe it should have been someone we were familiar with... maybe it should have been someone we met before in season 1 whose death had more of an impact. Instead, all we get are idle threats just to get paintings... I mean, really. "Man, it'd be a shame if we erased all the memories of your wife and kids... better give us the info". If he really trained Bennet, he should have known Bennet would just kill him all along. It doesn't make any logical sense. If the guy knew the lengths Bennet would go to, he should have known he would not stop at simply wiping his memory. Again. Good story writers don't introduce characters and attempt to give them depth like they did with Ivan and his family only to just snuff them off the same episode. It doesn't do anything but further the plot and add shallow development.
    What?

    Ivan is the man who created the "HRG" we know. The writers are using Ivan to add more depth to Noah's character. I dont understand why you would rather the show use an old character when you said many times you were sick of them rehashing stuff from season one. The writers gave us a look into HRG's past while keeping the plot progressing forward. We get to see Noah was not only trained well, but that he has now become even better. There were no Idle threats. HRG acted on all his threats. He erased the memories he said he would and he killed Ivan as an indication he has developed past the training Ivan gave.
    You cant go around saying the scene was dumb because you though Ivan would know HRG was going to kill him. You cant do that because we dont know that, and the scene dictates otherwise.
    Ivan was given a little background so that we the audience would understand the impact of the actions HRG was taking.

    So allow me to be redundant for a bit. If they wanted big Bennet Development, they should have had him kill someone a little more integral to his life and not someone we just met 5 minutes ago... not to mention Claire suddenly asking him where he was like she had any reason to in the first place.
    What? This may have just been a character we met five minutes ago, but it was pretty clear to me that this guy was a big part of Noah's life. Him killing Ivan was not small thing. Let's not forget HRG is on a mission to take down the company, so who better to use for this situation?
    Oh and since when was it unbelievable that Claire is calling to check up on her father? Are you forgetting that she just found out he has a double life? I assumed she called to make sure he wasnt around. After all she is breaking every rule he made for her.

    It's not that I don't enjoy development... I just don't enjoy unnecessary plot filler.
    You dont enjoy the plot that you deem to be filler. AKA the plot you dont understand or agree with.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Yarrsarusrex
    Oh and since when was it unbelievable that Claire is calling to check up on her father? Are you forgetting that she just found out he has a double life? I assumed she called to make sure he wasnt around. After all she is breaking every rule he made for her.
    I was under the impression that she called to ask permission to borrow the car (and, since she won't be at home, alleviate suspicions that she's doing something other than leading cheers).

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7487

    I got a little verklempt. Is this old news?

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarrsarusrex
    Oh and since when was it unbelievable that Claire is calling to check up on her father? Are you forgetting that she just found out he has a double life? I assumed she called to make sure he wasnt around. After all she is breaking every rule he made for her.
    I was under the impression that she called to ask permission to borrow the car (and, since she won't be at home, alleviate suspicions that she's doing something other than leading cheers).

    I got the impression asking for the car was only part of the reason she called. None-the-less her call was in no way unreal or fake feeling.

    Heroes is one of the best shows on TV, the writers do what they can given they have a TV budget and timeframe.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bwelch
    http://www.breitbart.tv/?p=7487

    I got a little verklempt. Is this old news?
    lol, well, let's hope they don't shoot any part of the show in Japan. I do wonder whether anyone would have been able to recognize them well enough on the water to identify them for arrest later, if it weren't for talking to reporters after they fled the country. They probably could have kept this quiet and just laid low in Japan and gotten away with it.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Lol wtf, I wonder if it is kinda like what happened with Criminal Minds or what...

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Time for Sad Panda to appear

    Heroes' second season may be coming to a close a lot sooner than expected due to the forthcoming apocalypse, also known in some circles as the damn writers' strike.

    Sources confirm that the show is going back and shooting an alternate ending to the Dec. 3 episode that, if used, would allow the episode to function as a season finale in the event of a strike. Originally, the episode was only supposed to serve as the conclusion of the current "Generations" arc. Should an 11th-hour agreement be reached and a strike averted (fingers crossed!), the alt ending would likely be scrapped.

    In related news, the reality of this whole thing is only now hitting me. And I'm not happy.
    http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...roes/800026358

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by AzazaelFenrir
    Time for Sad Panda to appear

    Heroes' second season may be coming to a close a lot sooner than expected due to the forthcoming apocalypse, also known in some circles as the damn writers' strike.

    Sources confirm that the show is going back and shooting an alternate ending to the Dec. 3 episode that, if used, would allow the episode to function as a season finale in the event of a strike. Originally, the episode was only supposed to serve as the conclusion of the current "Generations" arc. Should an 11th-hour agreement be reached and a strike averted (fingers crossed!), the alt ending would likely be scrapped.

    In related news, the reality of this whole thing is only now hitting me. And I'm not happy.
    http://community.tvguide.com/blog-en...roes/800026358
    Dude, two posts above you.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    awe I thought that one was just posting about the strike, one of the news sites I go to had it posted as this morning.

    TSM why are you reading this? back to Weskits, I wanna see 2/500

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    We can basically blame this on the shows themselves, if that makes sense?

    My Mom was saying that the reason for the strike was how people can view the shows online and the writers do not receive any compensation.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Serif
    We can basically blame this on the shows themselves, if that makes sense?

    My Mom was saying that the reason for the strike was how people can view the shows online and the writers do not receive any compensation.
    i dont think thats true. you have to view ads in order to watch it, so im sure they get some compensation.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Vandole
    Quote Originally Posted by Serif
    We can basically blame this on the shows themselves, if that makes sense?

    My Mom was saying that the reason for the strike was how people can view the shows online and the writers do not receive any compensation.
    i dont think thats true. you have to view ads in order to watch it, so im sure they get some compensation.
    I think the issue was actually them not getting a fair share from internet distribution(iTunes, etc) and dvd sales.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Serif
    We can basically blame this on the shows themselves, if that makes sense?

    My Mom was saying that the reason for the strike was how people can view the shows online and the writers do not receive any compensation.
    But neither do the actors, director, producer, stage crew, etc. so why would they complain? It's not as if they're doing the job for free, and if they feel the show isn't getting enough ratings on television, they could always just work for another show that does.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    why doesn't hiro just stop time when he's awake so he can get his girl outta there

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by octopus
    why doesn't hiro just stop time when he's awake so he can get his girl outta there
    Kensei is keeping him high so he can't concentrate.

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    that "shower" scene was hot

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    Re: HEROES WAS SO GOOD, OMFG! (Season 2)

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiro
    Why does everything look blue?
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