Russia builds "Most powerful bombs"

[Correction]

The history of Eastern Europe and Japan as a whole would say otherwise.

I don't agree about Russia being entirely pacifistic in the 20th century, but if we wanna bring up Western European and American History as a counterpoint, we all just look bad. Really, really bad.

I wasn't calling the USA the good guys at any point.

[guartz]

I assume you are referring to the 15 nations the soviet union controlled?

What do you think would happen to Cuba, Canada and Mexico if Washington was invaded, and burned down, twice in 50 years by foreign powers?


..and what about Japan? If you want to make a valid argument at least mention Helsinki, or eastern Germany.

My ONLY point - is that in the past 100+ years, Russia was never initiated aggression towards U.S.

Perhaps you should retake reading comprehension, because I'm pretty sure I made my point clear the first time.

[guartz]

How could he have demostrated a brainwashed mentality, when you did not present evidence for him to ignore, as a brainwashed person would?

Well, I can't present him nor you with any evidence. The thing is, I wasn't there when all this shit happened, neither were you, nor him. So, the dilemma is, how do know what happened and whom to believe?

Well, there is a trick to it.
First, you should understand why things happened the way they did. People, (Especially countries) seldom do things without a good reason. It's like finding motive in a court case!

Secondly, you must read both sides of the story. . . don't think Russian history books and American history books say the same thing.

Lastly, use step one to identify what makes rational sense.

[BRP]

Lastly, use step one to identify what makes rational sense.

Okay.

I'm using my ability to identify what makes rational sense...

identifying... identifying... identifying...

Alright, I've discovered your post lacks rational sense.

[Stee]

Problems is you don't have a clue if Russia did or did not in the past 100+ years initiate aggression toward the US, you don't have anything to back you up because not every single little information between these two countries flow through you or any at all.

Which nation was the first to point a missile at the other country? do you know? I doubt anybody without doing some serious digging would know.

My memories a bit hazy but from what I Can remember during the Korean War the Soviet Union supplied the North Koreans with Migs and other supplies and I believe there were reports where during dogfights US pilots spotted Soviet pilots whether its true or not is beyond me.

Edit: Did you just edit a post a thousand times or am I seeing things?

[guartz]

Lastly, use step one to identify what makes rational sense.

Okay.

I'm using my ability to identify what makes rational sense...

identifying... identifying... identifying...

Alright, I've discovered your post lacks rational sense.

I'm not making this shit up, if that's what you are wondering. Perhaps it's my inability to put things eloquently that makes it seem like I'm crazy. Or perhaps it's you who is at fault, it seems to me that you people will disagree just to disagree, then what I say sinks in and the rational side of your brain begins to realize that you were wrong, your ego jumps in, and hence all the insults.

[guartz]

Problems is you don't have a clue if Russia did or did not in the past 100+ years initiate aggression toward the US, you don't have anything to back you up because not every single little information between these two countries flow through you or any at all.

Which nation was the first to point a missile at the other country? do you know? I doubt anybody without doing some serious digging would know.

My memories a bit hazy but from what I Can remember during the Korean War the Soviet Union supplied the North Koreans with Migs and other supplies and I believe there were reports where during dogfights US pilots spotted Soviet pilots whether its true or not is beyond me.

Edit: Did you just edit a post a thousand times or am I seeing things?

you are seeing things. I didn't edit any of my posts. Also, I can't really argue your rational, I mean, whats the point in even bringing this up aside from halfassed way telling somebody "Well there is a chance you are wrong, so there!"

[Kuya]

How could he have demostrated a brainwashed mentality, when you did not present evidence for him to ignore, as a brainwashed person would?

Well, I can't present him nor you with any evidence. The thing is, I wasn't there when all this shit happened, neither were you, nor him. So, the dilemma is, how do know what happened and whom to believe?

Well, there is a trick to it.
First, you should understand why things happened the way they did. People, (Especially countries) seldom do things without a good reason. It's like finding motive in a court case!

Secondly, you must read both sides of the story. . . don't think Russian history books and American history books say the same thing.

Lastly, use step one to identify what makes rational sense.

With what you just sead, you single handedly debunked your own point. Because of the obvious bias on both sides, you are seldomly going to get a clear and concise view of the matter. Meaning, nor Correction nor you have much of a leg to stand on, unless that is, you both claim it as an opinion.

But:

You brainwashed propaganda is clearly superior to my knowledge.

Judging by this, you seem to believe your opinion as a fact. Hence the problem.
Edit: That is, assuming we allow ourselves to follow the pretenses outlined by your reply.

[Stee]

Problems is you don't have a clue if Russia did or did not in the past 100+ years initiate aggression toward the US, you don't have anything to back you up because not every single little information between these two countries flow through you or any at all.

Which nation was the first to point a missile at the other country? do you know? I doubt anybody without doing some serious digging would know.

My memories a bit hazy but from what I Can remember during the Korean War the Soviet Union supplied the North Koreans with Migs and other supplies and I believe there were reports where during dogfights US pilots spotted Soviet pilots whether its true or not is beyond me.

Edit: Did you just edit a post a thousand times or am I seeing things?

you are seeing things. I didn't edit any of my posts. Also, I can't really argue your rational, I mean, whats the point in even bringing this up aside from halfassed way telling somebody "Well there is a chance you are wrong, so there!"

No it's me telling you, you don't have a fucking clue what your talking about. All your doing is backtracking events to where the US made a action then you stop there.

For you to be so easily to just blame the US for aggression is just ignorance because you simply don't have all the facts.

[Charla]

They already started making the antimatter.

CERN laboratories, which produces antimatter on a regular basis, said:

“If we could assemble all of the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes."

[Ace-o-fire]

COLD WAR 2.0 COMMING TO A EARTH NEAR YOU!

But it does sound like a cool concept behind the bomb.

[Tekki]

We should make a better bomb and call it "Your mom's bomb"

oooooooo

Anyways, these "arms races" reports are cute....

[guartz]

How could he have demostrated a brainwashed mentality, when you did not present evidence for him to ignore, as a brainwashed person would?

Well, I can't present him nor you with any evidence. The thing is, I wasn't there when all this shit happened, neither were you, nor him. So, the dilemma is, how do know what happened and whom to believe?

Well, there is a trick to it.
First, you should understand why things happened the way they did. People, (Especially countries) seldom do things without a good reason. It's like finding motive in a court case!

Secondly, you must read both sides of the story. . . don't think Russian history books and American history books say the same thing.

Lastly, use step one to identify what makes rational sense.

With what you just sead, you single handedly debunked your own point. Because of the obvious bias on both sides, you are seldomly going to get a clear and concise view of the matter. Meaning, nor Correction nor you have much of a leg to stand on, unless that is, you both claim it as an opinion.

But:

You brainwashed propaganda is clearly superior to my knowledge.

Judging by this, you seem to believe your opinion as a fact. Hence the problem.
Edit: That is, assuming we allow ourselves to follow the pretenses outlined by your reply.

I see what you are saying. I can counter though, by saying I'm justified in believing it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_justification
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gettier_problem
http://www.ditext.com/gettier/gettier.html

Basics of justified belief;

Bob walks into a room and sees a red wall. Bob believes the wall is red. He is
justified to believe the wall is red.

unjustified belief,

Then Bob looks over and sees that the room
has a red light bulb, hence the room is bathed in red light. Bob is no longer
justified to believe that the wall is red, because it could merely be the illusion
cast by the red light.


:D
So lets break this down.

I know from what knowledge I have, that Russia was never the aggressor with U.S
My claim is being disputed, based on speculative truth that I don't have all the facts.

However, people making that claim don't have all the facts either, and the specific points
I bring up are not disputed, hence they are still valid.

The claim that "I don't have all the facts" is speculative, and is considered unjustified belief.

Thus, I am justified to believe what I believe, versus people who counter my point with
belief based truth.


This is becoming interesting.

[Senoska]

They already started making the antimatter.

CERN laboratories, which produces antimatter on a regular basis, said:

“If we could assemble all of the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes."

Yes, Thank you for proving my point. They already STARTED making the antimatter. They will reach the point of making a bomb, very slowly but they will. I didn't say "We already have the antimatter for a bomb" in which case your point would be valid.

Assuming you wernt trying to counter my point, yes, they have only scratched the surface of antimatter.

[guartz]

They already started making the antimatter.

CERN laboratories, which produces antimatter on a regular basis, said:

“If we could assemble all of the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes."

Yes, Thank you for proving my point. They already STARTED making the antimatter. They will reach the point of making a bomb, very slowly but they will. I didn't say "We already have the antimatter for a bomb" in which case your point would be valid.

Assuming you wernt trying to counter my point, yes, they have only scratched the surface of antimatter.

ah this is cool, anybody know what happened to the particle accelerator tests they were suppose to do this year? ... you know, the one where they wanted to collide particles at light year speeds or something.

[BRP]

You suffer from exaggerating your arguments, which are pretty weak to begin with. I'm not even going to get into how ridiculous it is to use old conflicts with a dead government in all of this, you basically are saying Japan is trying to start WWIII for wanting a full on military force again.

[guartz]

You suffer from exaggerating your arguments, which are pretty weak to begin with. I'm not even going to get into how ridiculous it is to use old conflicts with a dead government in all of this, you basically are saying Japan is trying to start WWIII for wanting a full on military force again.

Jpn is reacting to N.K, .............................btw when did I say that jpn wanted ww3?

dead government? you mean soviet union? .. and good thing too.. if soviet union still existed, and we were in the cold war era, bush building missiles in Czech republic would constitute a declaration of war. My happy ass would have been drafted, along with yours.. and any other male between 18-35.

[Senoska]

They already started making the antimatter.

CERN laboratories, which produces antimatter on a regular basis, said:

“If we could assemble all of the antimatter we've ever made at CERN and annihilate it with matter, we would have enough energy to light a single electric light bulb for a few minutes."

Yes, Thank you for proving my point. They already STARTED making the antimatter. They will reach the point of making a bomb, very slowly but they will. I didn't say "We already have the antimatter for a bomb" in which case your point would be valid.

Assuming you wernt trying to counter my point, yes, they have only scratched the surface of antimatter.

ah this is cool, anybody know what happened to the particle accelerator tests they were suppose to do this year? ... you know, the one where they wanted to collide particles at light year speeds or something.

I was unaware that a light year was a speed instead of a period of time. If you were referring to the speed of light then yea. But anyway, lol, yea that's what we were talking about CERN is a particle physics laboratory. I assume you're talking about this: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html correct?

[BRP]

You suffer from exaggerating your arguments, which are pretty weak to begin with. I'm not even going to get into how ridiculous it is to use old conflicts with a dead government in all of this, you basically are saying Japan is trying to start WWIII for wanting a full on military force again.

Jpn is reacting to N.K, .............................btw when did I say that jpn wanted ww3?

dead government? you mean soviet union? .. and good thing too.. if soviet union still existed, and we were in the cold war era, bush building missiles in Czech republic would constitute a declaration of war. My happy ass would have been drafted, along with yours.. and any other male between 18-35.

I can't even debate this with you, you are like a child on crack, jumping all over the place talking about dicks and dinosaurs.

[guartz]

I was unaware that a light year was a speed instead of a period of time. If you were referring to the speed of light then yea. But anyway, lol, yea that's what we were talking about CERN is a particle physics laboratory. I assume you're talking about this: http://public.web.cern.ch/Public/Welcome.html correct?

yup, duh! light speed, lol. that's it. Thx for the link :DDD