Einherjar: Valgrind (Odin's Chamber)

[Eurlzoo]

EDIT: Watching the other video of the wing 3 with this same group. The other pld is again wearing Koenig feet with his "DD" setup. Retarded.

He also has an Aegis to match whit the koening feet! (counted at least 5 relic in the wing 3 vid, 2aegis, sword, katana and horn)

[rithridan]

EDIT: Watching the other video of the wing 3 with this same group. The other pld is again wearing Koenig feet with his "DD" setup. Retarded.

He also has an Aegis to match whit the koening feet! (counted at least 5 relic in the wing 3 vid, 2aegis, sword, katana and horn)

What did the taru MNK use in that vid? It didn't look like destroyers, if I'd have to guess it looked more like relic h2h.

[Eurlzoo]

EDIT: Watching the other video of the wing 3 with this same group. The other pld is again wearing Koenig feet with his "DD" setup. Retarded.

He also has an Aegis to match whit the koening feet! (counted at least 5 relic in the wing 3 vid, 2aegis, sword, katana and horn)

What did the taru MNK use in that vid? It didn't look like destroyers, if I'd have to guess it looked more like relic h2h.

most likely hades sainti

[Oxx]

ummm do you get ur chips back if you wipe to omega or ultima? do you get your 1m dynamis clock back if you wipe to dlord?

i highly doubt they are going to give you the feathers back because people are crying, but i guess thats how everyone has suppanomi now so who knows maybe they will make this easy for everyone before you even get there to try it yourself

[Suiram]

ummm do you get ur chips back if you wipe to omega or ultima? do you get your 1m dynamis clock back if you wipe to dlord?

i highly doubt they are going to give you the feathers back because people are crying, but i guess thats how everyone has suppanomi now so who knows maybe they will make this easy for everyone before you even get there to try it yourself

You could go in and fight Odin every 3 hours and that wouldn't make the fight itself any less difficult or challenging, except as a byproduct of being able to attempt it more; you're confusing actual difficulty with the artificial barrier of collecting feathers to progress. If you wipe to Omega or Ultima, you don't get your (functional) chips back, no, but on the other hand Limbus doesn't lock a person out of those fights simply because the day their group did Apollyon SE or Temenos Central Floor 2 they had to work or go out with friends or their power died or whatever. They don't refund your glass if you wipe to DL, but on the other hand they also don't say "Okay guys, see you again in a few weeks after every person in your entire LS has beaten all the cities and Bcd again."

People want their feathers back because until you do beat Odin and get the key item that allows you to enter any room (and to a lesser, but in no way insignificant, extent after) it's a procedural nightmare to try to coordinate two- to three-dozen people's schedules for a minimum of five weeks at a time.

[NynJa]

would modifying the requirement that the person trading lamp must have 9/9 feathers, and the other participants must have a minimum of 1 feather from each wing but upon entering all feathers are lost from everyone.

Surely 1 person would be 9/9 at em.

[Tomino]

my guess is Odin isn't gonna drop Abj bodies, just his special items, this would make Odin fight some sort of "bonus round" you do once in a while.
dont know if I had been already proven wrong, but it'd be nice for Abj bodies to drop in Wing3; this would make Odin fight even more usefull since it'd unluck wing3 farm, basically.

[Malithar]

this would make Odin fight even more usefull since it'd unluck wing3 farm, basically.

Beat tier 1 and 2 and you've already unlocked the ability to "farm" tier 3. Don't quite see the point, especially if that's really all that Odin dropped. Would imagine he'd be fought for the fight itself once, and thats all. <_< Even more so considering all of what, five jobs can use Odin drops, with Hofud possibly being a crap weapon, Valk Fork being good, and the two Valhalla pieces not being useful with the commonality of /Nin tanking. Useful swaps for when shadows go down and magical attacks of course.

The key item would allow you to return to tier 3 instantly, but if thats all he was to drop, I just don't see the point of proceeding to Odin's Chamber if all of the farming that you need is already in tier. Am I missing something you meant?

As to a fix for losing your feathers upon fighting Odin, Id personally be happy if they introduced charges or stacks to the feather key items (think multi-barge tickets and such.) Complete a chamber? Get a feather. Complete it again? Get a "clump/bundle of feathers." With as much repeating to get new members/people who miss access to higher tiers thats needed, Id be happy just to be able to build up a few different sets of feathers with 2-5 charges or so, so that when you finally DO enter Odin's chamber, you'll lose one of each feather, but retain the rest from your clump/bundle. Repeating all of tier one four-five times thus far, and all of tier two 2-3 times, its a bit disheartening that in the end, I'm stuck doing all of these runs to get 1-4 more people closer to the next tier, and ampoules.

[donnie]

I cant beleive someone would actually want einherjar to be the same , i am not soo fund of thier update about lowering all HP of monsters , we were always on our nerves cause u never know you will win or lose , right now its begining to be more like a repatitave thing. so if you wanna whine about something whine about this.

In the other hand , I think if enough poeple send feed back about odin and the feather lost thing , they will update it. and NO , i dont want bundle of feathers , assuming odin might drop ABJs , poeple can farm him alot of times which is not a good thing , I just want to it to be updated as they did for Nyzle assault , where u only lose the disc once u clear 100th floor , same should go to odin . this will surely makes enough incentive for poeple to attend einherjar. and 1x Odin fight each 5-7 weeks.

[eva00r]

A linkshellmate actually did it (the same guy who records all of our videos), so I'm not sure. Sorry - I'll ask.

Please please ask him/her for that. I really want to know, thanks.

[Minions]

I know Sylvis (which was there on mnk) has relic h2h. So tack another one on the board.

[Max™]

Finally got the video to work.

My god Zantetsuken was freaking bad ass.

[Katlan]

just watched it at work (w/o sound - which comments make me interested to hear). the fight seems pretty crazy but I'd be really curious to see what the beginning was like or if Odin just goes crazy at like 10-15% (like most high end game mobs). Odin would be unbelievably bad ass if he started out that tough though.
Too bad you lose all your feathers on a wipe... really hurts the moral for most ppl to even care to attempt it until an actual strat (lol) is concieved... gl there

[Stromgarde]

Beat tier 1 and 2 and you've already unlocked the ability to "farm" tier 3. Don't quite see the point, especially if that's really all that Odin dropped. Would imagine he'd be fought for the fight itself once, and thats all. <_< Even more so considering all of what, five jobs can use Odin drops, with Hofud possibly being a crap weapon, Valk Fork being good, and the two Valhalla pieces not being useful with the commonality of /Nin tanking. Useful swaps for when shadows go down and magical attacks of course.

With the 5% slow on each piece, it's not even all that viable to use when you're trying to get shadows back up due to the negative effect on the timer.

Breastplate is nice, 4 enmity and 50 hp is a nice combo and might see some regular use if in conjunction with something else (i.e. Ares, Valor, or Koenig) macro'd in to prevent the slow from effecting timers. Unfortunately, the helm is like Koenig Schaller, now with extra fail.

[fantasticdan]

Hofud can't really be a crap weapon. Even if the add effect didn't exist, it would still the 2nd best offhand for blu/nin (after hq slayers). And if the add effect procs like at all, it will easily be put over the top. HP+3% makes it the best thing for breath spells as well, assuming you don't need a staff to land it.

[kareface]

This reminds me of the carbuncle BCNM. A ton of effort to clear people to get there, only to start all over again from the start. Rewards have a chance to be good, but there is also a chance your 3-4 months of work would be much better spent in another area. Even if they simply changed it so once a month you could enter the chamber once you have all 9 flags. Or winning any 1 of the rooms will get you the clears for the entire floor. Let's hope some foresight was used in this case and that einherjar won't go the way of the carbuncle BC.

[Lordender]

This IS the worst designed event in the game. SE released small man content this entire expansion and boom here comes einherjar that requires a good sized group if you consistantly want to win.

I mean seriously, was the dev sitting on the toilet taking a shit when he thought up this alternate method in getting abjurations? I am all for challenging material but this shit just isn't rewarding for the 5 weeks of *flawless attendance*(impossible in most linkshells) it takes to reach the final outcome. The items you can get with Einherjar points are pretty fucking lol compared to the limbus items.

They need to fire the fucking retard that thought einherjar was a good idea and make sure they never work in the mmo business again.

[Sagacious Sundi]

Just as a BTW, you get this perma key item after you clear all 9 pre-Odin chambers:

http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f3...ktalu/desc.jpg

Apparently:
-There is no other key item in the .dats that could possibly be the item that lets you access all 9 chambers other than this.
-A JP wiki reports that this is indeed the item for access to all 9 chambers. Note that this particular wiki has had some completely false info on Einherjar in the past (such as a made-up report of Valgrind, Mokkuralfi being a corse, and Andhrimnir being a Qiqirn), although practically everything has been true ever since the first Odin fight, sans a few stuff that was added before their venture into Valgrind.

[Delekii]

Hofud can't really be a crap weapon. Even if the add effect didn't exist, it would still the 2nd best offhand for blu/nin (after hq slayers). And if the add effect procs like at all, it will easily be put over the top. HP+3% makes it the best thing for breath spells as well, assuming you don't need a staff to land it.

I don't know how you figure that, it does almost nothing for our casting. If the hp/mp procs better than Leech Scimitar then sure, it will be great. But in terms of damage, heck, even Snr.Msk. Scimitar is higher DPS, so really you are talking about slightly higher damage on 1 hit of vorpal. Drain aside, I wouldn't be using Hofud (but then, I need the +str of ifrits or +dex of demon to reach the wsc tier for diss/rip)

[Chupunpupun]

Hofud can't really be a crap weapon. Even if the add effect didn't exist, it would still the 2nd best offhand for blu/nin (after hq slayers). And if the add effect procs like at all, it will easily be put over the top. HP+3% makes it the best thing for breath spells as well, assuming you don't need a staff to land it.

I don't know how you figure that, it does almost nothing for our casting. If the hp/mp procs better than Leech Scimitar then sure, it will be great. But in terms of damage, heck, even Snr.Msk. Scimitar is higher DPS, so really you are talking about slightly higher damage on 1 hit of vorpal. Drain aside, I wouldn't be using Hofud (but then, I need the +str of ifrits or +dex of demon to reach the wsc tier for diss/rip)

Alot of people still don't know that the weapon DMG doesn't matter when casting BLU spells. This taru kept insisting that HQ slayers are the best weapon for BLU period to me and I keep telling him DMG doesn't matter.....like talking to a brick wall.