Dear Ganiman, Gahoo, Mierin, and Wikia

[Cairthenn]

Attention:

The following word has been overused and used incorrectly:

epic

Please use the afformentioned word, epic, sparingly.

[Correction]

I would love to see you do a better job. I welcome you to open your wiki and see how much effort it takes. Its just a resource for people like you and me and it has become a good one - like any wiki it does have its inaccuracies but with the teamwork and renowned it has gained - it has become a generally accurate and good place to go. I mean, its 10x easier to look something up on FFXIclopedia than it is on Alla or Somepage - and it has strategies and guides to help as well...

Love the name.

And the join date.

p.s. look at the 3 new stickies at the top. Your 'bet you couldn't do better' litany is a bit late to the party.

p.p.s. all this 'teamwork and renown' owes much to research done by people who posted their findings to BG boards first. Don't give ganiman credit for shit he didn't do.

[Tyche]

What would get my rocks off is if Kaslo said he was practicing criminal defense...

[Cairthenn]

What would get my rocks off is if Kaslo said he was practicing criminal defense...

Maybe we should play along, just incase?

[Faile]

I know I noticed - I also noticed you guys wanted to copy most of it from FFXI - very orignal. And yes. Just recently joined because before this point - there was no point in posting - its just fun to laugh at you that do post :D

[Dirian]

Last I heard they were only taking copies of stuff that people had actually originally authored.



Also, most of your post had absolutely nothing to do with the entire thread. Good job.

[Norellicus]

I know I noticed - I also noticed you guys wanted to copy most of it from FFXI - very orignal.

Educate yourself on the GFDL before you go spouting off, kthx

[Zarath]

I know I noticed - I also noticed you guys wanted to copy most of it from FFXI - very orignal. And yes. Just recently joined because before this point - there was no point in posting - its just fun to laugh at you that do post :D

As sundi would say.... "wut?"

Yes - Wikia offered to pay out of there pockets the Wings of a Goddess Expansion BUT from what I have come to be told - Gani refused that offer and is using the money from the fundraiser. Its nice that you show the offer but its not surprising you don't show that he didn't want to accept that because it was given in good faith. What is 2000$$ when he is getting the money from the actual site? If anything, he is NOT a thief.

And I was shown that he asked money to make up for $2300.

You can laugh, I have nothing against you for that. You can go right ahead and support a dishonest bastard, not my life, not my opinions~

[Kazen]

If this is true send one of the forum moderators a PM or link it here. Anything that was posted on the BG-wiki that was on the FFXI-wiki thus far was authored by the people that posted it to begin with. Not to mention editing status is limited at the moment until the BG wiki is fully ready with new templates.

[Tarumara]

gdi kaslo stfu. i'm tired seeing your stupid ass posts where you argue just for the sake of arguing. you're like fucking damo

hahaha damo. or TM's brother. or Ruffa.

Wait whoa what? I don't have a brother...

*thinks*
Podan? hahaha... no, not. no.

[*Shinzon*]

You don't need to learn how to write to be a lawer? Hey guess what, when your a good writer and reader you automatically increase your critical thinking skills. You can also express yourself in a verbose manner and establish your point view or argument in a well thought out manner. None of these traits which you have displayed by posting in this thread so please, just stop. All you've done is show you have an unyielding mindset and a skewed ethical and moral logic and an inability to provide good examples. So yeah, I'll stick to what I was saying before.

[Toxictaru]

I think the one thing that is either constantly ignored or constantly forgotten is this: YES, Ganiman did indeed setup and create the FFXIclopedia. He used that fun MediaWiki software, which means, YES it is a Wiki.

The typical defense for gani is that it was his site, and he could do with it what he pleased. Bullshit. Thousands of people contributed to the wiki, and I'm sure a lot of people here had an edit or two, and a lot with even more. Ganiman facilitated, EVERYONE ELSE did the work. Stop trying to fucking defend him by saying it was his site and he could do with it what he pleased... that site belonged to fucking everyone, and he sold it to make money for himself.

[Tricen]

Attention:

The following word has been overused and used incorrectly:

epic

Please use the aforementioned**** word, epic, sparingly.

I've tried... Doesn't work that way :/

[Therin]

I like how the cut-outs only show some of the emails from Gani to the Wikia people.

We have to remember - FFXIclopedia was run since what 2005 out of Gani's own pocket... He made this change because even with the money raised - he could no longer afford to maintain the cost of the servers with the amount of people coming to the website and posting. He is getting money to move to Wikia - yes - did he ever say he wasn't? Its his site - He founded it... Without him - there would be no FFXIclopedia... I mean any of you could have done it - but he did.

Sometimes I read these forums and wonder if you guys really think 1/2 the things you say... or if you are just jealous you didn't think of it first. You may think he is in it just for the money - but think again... look at all the things they have tried to do over the past years - they have tried to do what was best for the Wiki - I don't think they would give up now just because of money... I am sure they had to be persuaded of the benefits for the wiki and with the higher cost of running the servers and their inability to maintain them out of their own pockets anymore- I can't blame them for doing what they did.

Yes - Wikia offered to pay out of there pockets the Wings of a Goddess Expansion BUT from what I have come to be told - Gani refused that offer and is using the money from the fundraiser. Its nice that you show the offer but its not surprising you don't show that he didn't want to accept that because it was given in good faith. What is 2000$$ when he is getting the money from the actual site? If anything, he is NOT a thief.

You guys seem to fail to realize how much time and energy was put into the site from Gani, Gahoo and Mierin's stand point and the other Admins. You may not like it, you may still feel its cheap - but I would love to see you do a better job. I welcome you to open your wiki and see how much effort it takes. Its just a resource for people like you and me and it has become a good one - like any wiki it does have its inaccuracies but with the teamwork and renowned it has gained - it has become a generally accurate and good place to go. I mean, its 10x easier to look something up on FFXIclopedia than it is on Alla or Somepage - and it has strategies and guides to help as well...

The biggest fault in my opinion would be the vandalism it obtains but there are people who are spaz look outs for those things. I really do not see why this is such a big deal. I can admit - if there are gil-seller ads or if the admins lose control and things get bad - then its a bad idea - but the add-ons and the promises that things will be the same doesn't really make it such a bad thing in my opinion and I think we should let it get completely done and take a look at it before we jump to conclusions...

But that is just me and my ego and attitude isn't that huge so its not an issue for me. I don't mean to start drama with this post - just a little perspective here.

-Fail

Fixed.

Why do you people come here to try to defend Gani/FFXIclopedia now, anyway? I don't give a shit what you think and how much shit you think you have backing up your opinion, throwing your singular defensive post on top of a 36-page thread in which 99% of the posters completely disagree with you in an attempt to change public opinion is about as futile as trying to piss a hole through Fort Knox.

[Ishmael]

Why does it seem like everyone Wheel of Time inspired name is supporting the Wiki?

[Credos]

More than anything I have to thank Kaslo for at least being mildly entertaining; when I think that I've reached the bottom of the intellectual gene pool, he's there to show me just how low it can go.

[aurik]

Why does it seem like everyone Wheel of Time inspired name is supporting the Wiki?

Spoiler: Robert Jordan dies during the last book.

[Therin]

Why does it seem like everyone Wheel of Time inspired name is supporting the Wiki?

Eh?

I'm not supporting the Wiki, I'm just commenting on the stupidity of any single one person trying to convince a massive crowd of people who vehemently disagree with them without extremely powerful support. (especially when the same argument that they're bringing to the table has been brought already about three dozen times)

[Mysterio]

Ganiman in the library, with the wrench.

[Rocl]

Sorry guys; I stole this page from the Wiki:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Granite