WOTG goes live on Nov 22 for all regions.

[Septimus]

SWEDEN! FUCK YEAH!

I don't mind thanksgiving tbh though. Giving thanks... why not? <.< However, fuck Halloween. Turning All saints night (idk what it's called over there) into some commercial thing where kids go around tossing eggs on houses where ppl wouldn't give them candy = wrong.
I hate how it has spread to sweden too, cause that's the time to pay you respects to the dead, and I don't want no grinning kid littering my lawn cause I wouldn't give them candy for disturbing.

No, Halloween was around first. I think it is wrong that they turned a night about dressing up in festive costumes and lobbing corn and/or eggs at your neighbors house into... Umm... What do they do on All Saint's Eve?

[Gwynplaine]

Why must all Yoshitaka Amano art create totally subjective and pointless speculation about what squiggly blob #278 is and isn't.

It's castle fucking Zvahl.

[Khelek]

well... all saints eve/halloween are kinda two sides of the same coin I suppose. If I'm not mistaken, halloween comes from scaring away evil spirits by having a jack'o lantern. All Saints Eve was and is still, there to pay your respects to the dead. Most likely has to do with the days getting darker around that time of year, and I suppose some ppl got scared and some wanted to honor the dead. Still, I don't want halloween in sweden ;( someone get it out of here!

[Liquidedust]

SWEDEN! FUCK YEAH!

I don't mind thanksgiving tbh though. Giving thanks... why not? <.< However, fuck Halloween. Turning All saints night (idk what it's called over there) into some commercial thing where kids go around tossing eggs on houses where ppl wouldn't give them candy = wrong.
I hate how it has spread to sweden too, cause that's the time to pay you respects to the dead, and I don't want no grinning kid littering my lawn cause I wouldn't give them candy for disturbing.

No, Halloween was around first. I think it is wrong that they turned a night about dressing up in festive costumes and lobbing corn and/or eggs at your neighbors house into... Umm... What do they do on All Saint's Eve?

All Hallows Eve / All Saints (technically it is All Hallows Eve in Sweden since it is based on both Pagan and Christian tradition). Been part of swedish tradition to honour the dead on the 1st of November since at least the 10th or 11th century depending on sources (in the greater aspect of things records for All Saints day goes back as far as the 8th century).

[Khelek]

less candy, moar Atomos.

I can't find anything to strengthen my memory of Atomos sending whatever he sucks in to another dimension ;( Anyone got any Atomos info? I can't seem to find anything really..

[Lordshin]

Why must all Yoshitaka Amano art create totally subjective and pointless speculation about what squiggly blob #278 is and isn't.

It's castle fucking Zvahl.

you may be right... but i believe this "thing" was in that poster that came with the premium Soundtrack and Atlas

does anyone have that pic (im having trouble finding it ; lol

i think the main reason we think its Atomos is because.. well... look at it... since when does a Castle have a Mouth
I mean it can very well be the Castle and well yeah its hard to tell with amano's art but meh just wait and see... TGS is comin soon so yeah xD

[Kononeko]

definitely Domokun. no question about that lol <.< also, for every chocobo knight SE posts a picture of, my hope of it being one of the next jobs rises ;3

edit for nonbelievers: http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e3.../domokunv1.gif

*fixed

[Khelek]

who's saying Castle Zvahl isn't Atomos? idk, they have similar style, only the atomos we've seen previously is somewhat pink(or probably blurple if we're gonna argue about it) while the castle is black <_< anything is possible.

[Kimiko]

I'm thinking BG needs to recruit somebody that works at GameStop or another video game store to sneak a copy out early and torrent it. With the new "buy registration keys online" thing, there's really no reason to purchase a physical copy.

How much will the code be in comparison to the price of buying the disk?

Probably more, codes for Zilart and CoP is like $12.50'ish, ToAU is $20'ish.

[Lordshin]

yeah anything is possible.. remember when we said Alexander WAS Alzadaal? and people argued... well...

*SPOILERS?*
didnt turn out that way did it? he fit perfectly in the Castle hall and then we killed him as a Spirit controlling a robot
*ENDSPOILERS*

So yeah... everything is just speculation atm lol... like i said before we know nothing yet we are VERY excited... lol

[JoOeetheplatypuS]

yeah anything is possible.. remember when we said Alexander WAS Alzadaal? and people argued... well...

*SPOILERS?*
didnt turn out that way did it? he fit perfectly in the Castle hall and then we killed him as a Spirit controlling a robot
*ENDSPOILERS*

So yeah... everything is just speculation atm lol... like i said before we know nothing yet we are VERY excited... lol

Actually

Alexander WAS Alzadaal, he's just not Alzadaal anymore

[Lordshin]

yeah anything is possible.. remember when we said Alexander WAS Alzadaal? and people argued... well...

*SPOILERS?*
didnt turn out that way did it? he fit perfectly in the Castle hall and then we killed him as a Spirit controlling a robot
*ENDSPOILERS*

So yeah... everything is just speculation atm lol... like i said before we know nothing yet we are VERY excited... lol

Actually

Alexander WAS Alzadaal, he's just not Alzadaal anymore

Which proves my point... just cus he was doesnt mean he will be xD
SE can do w/e they want its their game... as long as its consistant of course xD

[zeorhymer]

So far Eb/Gamestop has the release date for Dec. 3rd.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200386

I could only find one for the Xbox version. Not sure about PS2 or PC.

[Septimus]

yeah anything is possible.. remember when we said Alexander WAS Alzadaal? and people argued... well...

*SPOILERS?*
didnt turn out that way did it? he fit perfectly in the Castle hall and then we killed him as a Spirit controlling a robot
*ENDSPOILERS*

So yeah... everything is just speculation atm lol... like i said before we know nothing yet we are VERY excited... lol

Actually

Alexander WAS Alzadaal, he's just not Alzadaal anymore

Which proves my point... just cus he was doesnt mean he will be xD
SE can do w/e they want its their game... as long as its consistant of course xD

No, it does the opposite to your point.

People were 100% correct when they said that Alexander was the Alzadaal Ruins. Alexander used Alzadaal as a place to manifest its power, the same way it used the robot that we beat during the last mission. In one mission they even described how the remnants were his propulsion and stabilization units, and Nyzul Isle was his body. The Empire just built Alexander a better body to act as his Avatar with a better energy source, if he wanted to he could probably manifest into an animaton or a bread box. But that doesn't make the initial speculation any less right.

[6souls]

So far Eb/Gamestop has the release date for Dec. 3rd.

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=200386

I could only find one for the Xbox version. Not sure about PS2 or PC.

ps2:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=281830

pc:
http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=647203

[Tekki]

I'm thinking BG needs to recruit somebody that works at GameStop or another video game store to sneak a copy out early and torrent it. With the new "buy registration keys online" thing, there's really no reason to purchase a physical copy.

Ive already got permission from my DM to prepay as many XIs as I want through my store. Ive already got quite a few under my name, and can get more under my name, as long as they were full pay.

As for getting out and torrenting it. I can probably set this up. This game won't be street dated. If it follows suit with other MMO expansions, as well as the previous expansions for XI, they will arrive on the release day but wont go live until a day to 4 days after its release. Either way, I will have it early/on time at my store and will have data up asap. (I did some small data mining when TOAU came out, if anyone remembers) viewtopic.php?f=2&t=8913&hilit=data

As for getting people CD keys and copies of the game as needed. I don't mind getting the go ahead and preordering a bunch of games for people but be aware, I can't go order a bunch of games and pull the rug out from underneath the whole deal. Canceling a massive amount of reserves after getting permission to reserve a bunch of copies of the game will shoot any chances of me being able to do this again, and will simply put my DM in a high mood of pisstivity.

So the bottom line is I will be able to have the expansion up as soon as its in my hands. And if you want a CD key, or copy of the game through me, I will only help out on the strictest of policy. I would only ask for my help if your 120% positive you need to get it through me. If that means waiting until more release information and a solid date, then wait. If your anxious already, the release date in my comp is Dec 3rd and it is reservable.

[Cylo]

Wait... you are buying games from your Dungeon Master?

[ringthree]

Ok, Amano's previous rendering of Atomos.
http://images.wikia.com/finalfantasy...FFV-Atomos.jpg

I, at first, thought it was Castle Zvahl, then I heard other suggestions that it was Atomos and I thought those were right. But now I think we are both right. I see no reason why an avatar like Atomos couldn't ALSO be Castle Zvahl. It would be pretty similar to the whole Alexander thing, which put some doubt in my mind, but the whole dimensional portal/Shadow Lord/Dynamis/Time travel/big nasty castle-Atomos looking thing gives some credence to it.

[BRP]

I see no reason why an avatar like Atomos couldn't ALSO be Castle Zvahl.

Castle Zvahl was built brick by brick by Gigas under the command of the Shadow Lord, and has no special properties beyond being full of demons.

[Spoony Bob]

Is it 100% that you'll be able to get WoTG keys from playonline when the expansion goes live? I'd love to be able to grab the full thing for just the price of a string of numbers but... I'm not going to wait a month or more to get the expansion setup.