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    Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    For those of you who don't hang out on the IRC channel, I'm in the process of trying to figure out at which levels Warcry gets boosted. Why? Because I can't find the information anywhere and I have to know, yes I know this is completely useless information. Unfortunately, it appears as if these "upgrades" do not occur at nice even levels like 35, 40, 45, etc, so I need information from WARs of basically every level. If you're interested in helping me, and have a WAR level 35-74 (but not 37), please either post here or PM me the following information:

    *Your level
    *Your base attack (no buffs, any weapon is fine, but if you have 0 h2h skill, completely naked might be too low to be of use)
    *Your attack after using Warcry.

    Thanks.
    Row row fight the meower.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    We should also compile a list of how much the ammount of ACC you lose scales as you level, too.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Huh?

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by Obev
    HUAAARGH!
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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Just so happens I spend 99% of my time as a 74WAR.

    So heres my contribution.

    http://www.darusgrey.org/74war1.GIF

    http://www.darusgrey.org/74war2.GIF

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin
    We should also compile a list of how much the ammount of ACC you lose scales as you level, too.
    I wonder how many people will take this seriously

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)


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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by Amele
    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin
    We should also compile a list of how much the ammount of ACC you lose scales as you level, too.
    I wonder how many people will take this seriously
    Quote Originally Posted by evilpaul
    Huh?
    1 so far!

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by Mansin
    We should also compile a list of how much the ammount of ACC you lose scales as you level, too.
    I see what you did there, and it makes me lol.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    LOL. Seriously though, there's a limit to the lack of usefulness even some of the downrightly pointless things posted on here should be allowed to achieve, who the fuck cares (unless I'm getting wooshed and there's a juicy, pretty lolworthy and eventually dramalicious backstory we're missing that would make this stuff progressively interesting as the plot thickens).

    Otherwise you're a bit overdoing it lol, I sorta feel embarrassed for those who are posting cause I believe we're all just getting punk'd, you can't be THAT pretentious, heck even I couldn't.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Oh, and isn't Warcry buffed at 38, just to be unavailable when WAR is subbed ? I kinda remember reading that...or being told it...and it would make sense, too.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    KI -> Warrior FAQ I posted a formula I found a long time ago. Seems quite accurate.

    edit: here it is.
    Warcry > (14 + ((War level - 35)/5))

    edit2: or maybe not lol.

    edit3: Guess I'll have to dig something up. Don't think I care enough to modify the FAQ on KI though. ;P

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    74 (scythe)
    209 -> 227
    18

    66 (greataxe)
    293 -> 317
    24

    52 (axe)
    205 -> 227
    22

    41 (greataxe)
    164 -> 173
    9

    Notice how the scythe 74 war gets a lower attack boost than a 66 war with greataxe?

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by SassiAsura
    74 (scythe)
    209 -> 227
    18

    66 (greataxe)
    293 -> 317
    24

    52 (axe)
    205 -> 227
    22

    41 (greataxe)
    164 -> 173
    9

    Notice how the scythe 74 war gets a lower attack boost than a 66 war with greataxe?
    It's a percent-based bonus that appears to scale a few tenths of a percent each level. I'm not sure, but I think that the bonus may be related to skill. That would explain the seemingly random numbers I'm coming up with in terms of %@75. I really don't know why I'm getting the percentages that I am. Someone go test their attack with an axe vs. a gaxe. I think that testing with different weapon types is skewing the results.

    Edit:
    My taru friend is a WAR75 with 266 sword skill. He has 311 base attack and 338 attack after warcry. While using sword, warcry yields 27 attack, or an 8.68% bonus.

    My mithra friend is a WAR75 with 285 skill in axe. She has 358 base attack and 390 after warcry. While using axe, warcry yields 32 attack, or an 8.93% bonus.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    This is probably it, skill levels are messing up things.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by SassiAsura
    This is probably it, skill levels are messing up things.
    I haven't been able to find anyone who has WAR75 and 2 weapons with a large disparity in skill between their two weapons (such as unmerited sword and merited axe), so it's also possible that only the STR difference is skewing the results. They're both AFK now or I would ask them what their base STR is each. I think the key would be to test on the same person to eliminate the margin of error due to STR differences.

    Edit: If it's influenced by skill, then it would be interesting to find out to what degree those influence the result. I wonder if STR has any influence over the result other than granting the warrior a larger base attack from which to take his/her percentage.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    I wish Takedown was still around, he could've tested this stuff so efficiently and much faster than anyone else.

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    Re: Help Bagel's obsessive tendencies (Warcry stuff)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ivve
    Quote Originally Posted by SassiAsura
    This is probably it, skill levels are messing up things.
    I haven't been able to find anyone who has WAR75 and 2 weapons with a large disparity in skill between their two weapons (such as unmerited sword and merited axe), so it's also possible that only the STR difference is skewing the results. They're both AFK now or I would ask them what their base STR is each. I think the key would be to test on the same person to eliminate the margin of error due to STR differences.

    Edit: If it's influenced by skill, then it would be interesting to find out to what degree those influence the result. I wonder if STR has any influence over the result other than granting the warrior a larger base attack from which to take his/her percentage.
    Check the str difference between the L66 war and the L52 one... I don't think Str comes into play. Since the L66 war has alot more, a greataxe (better base skill level?) and only a marginal increase in att.

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