new weaponskill speculation

[Ryko]

That's like +30 or so atk as opposed to homam in all 3 slots, a fire bomblet, etc, so yeah I dunno where people are pulling 540-550 atk out of their asses even with a scythe.

[NynJa]

Great Sword (8/8) TP setup, no food or buffs.

[-img]http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f174/spd64/tpgs.png[/img]

That looks like you've piled on every piece of attack gear possible lol

[docvicious]

I saw the cat, don't know if it was cait sith though, I highly doubt it was.

[Aquilla]

Ahem.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned it before -- but I have a feeling we'll get meritable weaponskills.

I mean, we got meritable spells... merit ws isn't that big of a stretch?

[Sidanoir]

500 base attack is the norm ?? I'm sitting at 392 on my thief.

Sure is for a 2 hander now, certainly not dual wield jobs though

I guess that extra 40 attack from that 1STR=1ATK conversion turns into 100-150 attack.

Attack Bonus traits also that thief does not have. Especially /NIN

DRK/WAR breaks 500 without merits for Scythe.
WAR/NIN approached 500 for me with Gaxe, but doesn't quite get there.

My ridill war sits at around 420 attack...forget exact number its above 420 with maneater active, considering I tp in
Rajas
Adaberk
Foragers
(18 STR added off top of my head)
For dual wield as only STR gear
and change in a Flame Ring, Chiv Chain, Ethereal instead of Suppa (8 Extra STR, and 5 extra attack)..it turns out to be a little more than 40 extra attack

THF/NIN - Mandau/Blau/Suppa = 392
THF/WAR - Mandau/Tatami/Coral = 394
GOGO ATTACK BONUS TRAITS ??

The only job that gets multiple attack bonus traits is Dark Knight, with +48 attack at lv40. Every other job that can get Attack Bonus trait (including Warrior, since they apparently only get one) only gives +10 attack.

ITS NOT MUCH OF AN ATTACK BONUS TRAIT BUT ITS STILL FREE 10 ATTACK A THF/NIN DOESNT HAVE...Mind you the ONLY job I use 2 hander on is DRK, WAR I only RECENTLY capped GAXE due to 2 hander buff.....WHILE I WAS NOT SPECIFIC I WAS MOSTLY REFERRING TO MY DARK...your NUMBER of 40 ATTACK ASSUMES 80 STR FOR TPING, YOUR NUMBER WAS THROWN OUT AS BS, MINE WAS NOT MEANT TO BE 100% EITHER SO WHY ARE YOU NITPICKING?, I HAVE CONSIDERABLY MORE THAN 40 LETS BREAK DOWN THE MATH SHALL WE?
My WAR has 74 BASE STR sub NIN....bear in mind my dual wield setup has 18 STR THIS BRINGS THE TOTAL TO 92 STR WHICH IS 46 MORE ATTACK THAN DUAL WIELD
5 + 3 + 5...HRM 13 MORE ATTACK FROM CHANGING TO FLAME RING, CHIV CHAIN, ETHEREAL FOR GAXE BUILD THIS BRINGS US UP TO 59 ATTACK..NOW THROW IN THE WHOPPING 10 ATTACK BONUS FROM WAR 69 ATTACK...CONSIDERING MY WAR SITS AT 420ish ON DUAL WIELD
OH WHATS THAT HI 489 (EDIT: 481 counting Maneater vs Perdu difference) ATTACK WITH NO GREAT AXE MERITS AND NEAR 500 ISNT POSSIBLE ON NON DARK HOW? 500ish is TYPICAL OF 2 HANDERS NOW, IM SORRY I WAS OFF BY 19 ATTACK on MY WAR, I GUESS SINCE MY DARK IS OVER 500 THEY BALANCE OUT RIGHT?

HI BLAU DOLCH GIVES ATTACK +16, WHICH YOU TRADED FOR 2.5 ATTACK IN TATAMI, YOUR OWN THIEF EXAMPLE IS SKEWED BECAUSE YOU HAVE A MANDAU A NON MANDAU THF WOULD HAVE 20 LESS ATTACK AS THF/NIN OH SHIT ONLY 372?

I HOPE CAPS LOCK IS THE PREFFERED LANGUAGE SO THAT YOU MAY UNDERSTAND

[Not Kuno]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

[VZX]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

No Dancer No PT

Of course, assuming the WSes do not suck

[Kaziel]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

I will only not be pissed as all hell, assuming the new WSs are in the level 30-60 range and are side grades from existing WSs. If they are level 75ish type Bullshit that destroy all existing WSs, but require a DAN... Oh there's gonna be some fucking hate towards SE.

[evilpaul]

How long until they tell us more about this?

[Vajra]

Ahem.

I'm surprised nobody mentioned it before -- but I have a feeling we'll get meritable weaponskills.

I mean, we got meritable spells... merit ws isn't that big of a stretch?

Best response, and I totally agree with this.

All the other theories such as Nyuzl Weapons

and Dancer being in pt are....

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

I will only not be pissed as all hell, assuming the new WSs are in the level 30-60 range and are side grades from existing WSs. If they are level 75ish type Bullshit that destroy all existing WSs, but require a DAN... Oh there's gonna be some fucking hate towards SE.

I agree with Kaziel here too.

The trailer even specifies 1 type of job using that one new weapon skill (notice they stand out alot cause of their AFV2 Armor). Also AFv2 represents being lv 75 (if you can wear them all) ,and lv. 75 means you can access group 2 merrits, and group 2 merrits mean....BOOM new weapon skills tada!!!

[Elesar]

I hope SE fixes damage formula before WOTG, hell is ATK build even worth it anymore when Food, Minuet, Chaos Roll gives you 700-800 ATK anyway? Why add another 50 atk(full atk build) just to get 10 more damage on your attacks when 25% haste gives atleast 60 more dmg each hit avrg on delay.

Hell, I bet a WHM taru with those new weapon skills will do just as much as a warrior they way SE are heading "fixing" the game.

conclusion, FFXI is a shitty game and needs to die.

lol /wrist man. just get it over with.

[evilpaul]

They had artifact armor on people in Promyvion before....

[deivi]

dont think dancer would activate new WS, when they showed them you didnt see a dancer in the screen, unless they're just being sneaky. maybe it would be 1 per job, to be different from 1 per weapon like the relics with some weapons having more than 1 ws;

WAR - GAX
MNK - H2H (a)
THF - dagger (a)
WHM - club
BLM - staff (a)
RDM - sword (a)
PLD - sword (b)
DRK - scythe
RNG - bow
BRD - dagger (b)
SMN - staff (b)
BST - axe
NIN - katana
SAM - GKT
DRG - polearm
BLU - sword (c)
COR - (gun)
PUP - H2H (b)
DNC - dagger (c)

[Elesar]

when 350 base ATK was the norm, +50 ATK was alot. now we got 500-550 base, adding 300 ATK from buffs and we get a whoping 800 ATK, +50 ATK is hardly anything now. FFXI was "balanced" 3 years ago.

Yeah man it was balanced dude. I remember when my Beastmaster used to do as much damage as Warriors, Dragoons, and Dark Knights.

I'm just kidding

[Not Kuno]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

I will only not be pissed as all hell, assuming the new WSs are in the level 30-60 range and are side grades from existing WSs. If they are level 75ish type Bullshit that destroy all existing WSs, but require a DAN... Oh there's gonna be some fucking hate towards SE.

I hope to god it's not gonna be called DAN. What's next? Stevemage?

[Therin]

[quote=Not Kuno]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

I will only not be pissed as all hell, assuming the new WSs are in the level 30-60 range and are side grades from existing WSs. If they are level 75ish type Bullshit that destroy all existing WSs, but require a DAN... Oh there's gonna be some fucking hate towards SE.

I hope to god it's not gonna be called DAN. What's next? Stevemage?[/quote:5a3be]

There's an Elvaan male who is currently SAM-onry in my LS who promised to level it if it has the DAN acronym, because that's his name IRL.

Anyway, already got SAM.

*EDIT* Hey, 700-club. >_> <_<

[evilpaul]

I'm still disappointed they didn't go with BUM for Blue Mage.

[Kaziel]

[quote=Not Kuno]

Having a dancer in the pt with some dancer buff gives you new WSes, obviously.

I will only not be pissed as all hell, assuming the new WSs are in the level 30-60 range and are side grades from existing WSs. If they are level 75ish type Bullshit that destroy all existing WSs, but require a DAN... Oh there's gonna be some fucking hate towards SE.

I hope to god it's not gonna be called DAN. What's next? Stevemage?[/quote:d8ae6]Possible alternates are DNC, and DCR (and of course DDR).

EDIT: Also to reply to Vajra's post. While I would hate SE with all my soul for doing something like that, I could see them doing it... I mean... c'mon. Relics Weapons? "Sure you can get this awesome new WS... all it takes is spending the next year of your life doing nothing but getting coins to upgrade it to level 5. Now go have fun, little monkeys."

[fantasticdan]

Maybe drk will get a multi-hit GS ws rather than another scythe one.

[Kaziel]

Another thought was if it's job specific (merited or otherwise) WSs, they could incorporate the pet into it, for pet jobs. Like the SMN WS is elemental, and does damage of the type of Avatar that is summoned. Something like that (not that I'm expecting them to...)