Account Lost and Recovered

[schlomo]

Ohi Hogie!

[razorcat]

Thankfully the runs should continue on, but that also leads me to believe it wasn't an 'insider' as they'd know they were screwing with people outside of Ultima as well.

A case can be made that it was an inside job as well.
1) Specific people targeted. Whats the common connection between all these victims? Whats the common theme? To me, as an Ultima outsider, Sarah, Garret, Fodder, Aa all hold some sort of position of power or respect internally in Ultima. I don't know who else got victimized. But disrupting the internal power chain in hopes of (for lack of a better word) fucking up Ultima implies to me the culprits knew what they were doing.
2) Pre-meditated transfers.
3) All done with a few days of each other.

Either way even if 1) is false and it was just "random" Ultima members, the pre-meditation makes me believe that the culprits knew what they were doing.

[Locodawg]

if it took u 9 pages to figure out this was pre-meditated you're pretty retarded

[Ashira]

Where did he say he just figured out it was premeditated? He said that the premeditation... ah, nvm, just not worth my time. /toss

[Hogie]

with all this talk of pre-meditation and insider jobs, its all sounding like someone who did this must of been very smart and knew what they were doing.

All signs point to Schlomo!

[schlomo]

When i broke my Leg my doctor told me im gunna need Morphine for the pain, and i told him i was premedicated is that like the same thing?

[Eticket]

Thankfully the runs should continue on, but that also leads me to believe it wasn't an 'insider' as they'd know they were screwing with people outside of Ultima as well.

1) Specific people targeted. Whats the common connection between all these victims? Whats the common theme? To me, as an Ultima outsider, Sarah, Garret, Fodder, Aa all hold some sort of position of power or respect internally in Ultima. I don't know who else got victimized. But disrupting the internal power chain in hopes of (for lack of a better word) fucking up Ultima implies to me the culprits knew what they were doing.

Aa lost a mule account, not his main. Fodder is fine, not sure why he was listed. Garret and Sarah are in leadership positions, yes. Gordie and Freak are much lower on the totem pole so to speak as were the others affected. The common link has been mentioned numerous times throughout the thread. Anyone nailed had sent their info to someone through the Ultima forum's PM system.

[rydiu]

Last time I ran a php board is was ridiculously easy to read PMs as admin....iirc it was no more than a few mouse-clicks to see anyone's PM. Maybe its not on by "default," but with the flexibility and web-friendliness of PHP it might as well be...

srsly...don't share account info with ANYONE unless you're prepared to never see your account again. end of story.

[Ravenlokk]

Intervention FFXI Style. Maybe its someone who loves you IRL.

[Remyo]

I'll admit to it....


















I was the second gunman on the grassy knoll. 8)

[draxyl]

Lost that god damn BG wiki link to Rukenshin/Rykoshet...now I can't get back to it ><

it was like /Rukenshin/Rykoshet or something.

edit:
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Rykoshet/Rukenshin

[Croaker]

i heard that radiance has indeed kicked taj for all of the account hacks and there's a ton of drama within the shell. makes sense. didn't he have access to divisortheory's email? essentially having access to all of divisor's forum passwords? those characters ending up on leviathan AND getting handed pearls right off the bat is way too fishy and was probably planned in advance by other linkshell members as well. like someone said, occam's razor.

Who the hell gives a random person(Familiar name/Aegis or not) a linkpearl fresh off the bat from transferring servers without doing a bit of background checking? Regardless of whether or not you were desperate for a tank to log on, it emulates similar actions of one of those lses that shouts in Whitegate trying to recruit members. Seems a bit reckless of that linkshell tbh...unless I'm obviously missing something.

Sarahlynn and Garret both moved to Leviathan, Taj's server........ coincidence?
Sarahylunn is given the name Taja..... coincidence?
Sarahlynn and Garret both given pearls to Radiance, Taj's Linkshell...... coincidence?
Taj buys expensive items for at least one of the characters.... coincidence?

I like the name ^-^ If you stay on Leviathan, let's get married or something.

Rykoshet told us that Taja was his mule. I'm not gonna lie, it was pretty irresponsible of us to not question why an Aegis Paladin transferred servers and asked to join LS. That being said, he was just a trial member. Ellia or Linsivi kicked Rykoshet when the thread was posted (I think it was probably Ellia, Linsivi is in the process of moving.)

Also seems strange that a brand new trial member would be handed a multi-million gil bow out of nowhere, especially a server transfer...

He asked me to pick it up for him on the way to Divine Might, and paid me when I got there.

P.S.: What kind of Aegis PLD/NIN doesn't have a Lamian Kaman?

Any kind of plausible deniability for Taj is long gone. His excuses are amazingly lame. His first response he offeres nothing but a joke that he likes the name, but when he is called out on it, suddenly he knows all about Taja being a mule of their new PLD. Taj admitting to knowledge of this "mule" is the ultimate slip up. He claims he is not in the loop for handing out pearls, yet is on very friendly terms with the new transfer/trial PLD to the point that he knows their mules names. Must be an increadibly amazing coincidence that he needed to have Taj buy him the bow because that is pretty much required gear for Divine MIght and I am sure it just couldn't wait. <sarcasm>

Giving a linkshell to a transfer PLD with no application to your linkshell is extremely fishy. Also giving a pearl to a mule of that character is far beyond fishy.

The hacker hacks again. Big suprise. Maybe our hero, the BatTaj, only did it to show SE how vulnerable their accounts are due to some new glitch he found?

[Liselle]

You find it plausible that Taj not only PWNed the members of an LS the he presumably had nothing to do with (other than the fact that Kalia used to be a member), but left a series of neon signs behind that pointed to him as the culprit?

I see means, but I don't see motive or opportunity (beyond a non-specific hand-waving "h4ckz0r" label). It sounds like an inside job by a disgruntled member, with a hint of ham-fisted deception.

[ceolceol]

i heard that radiance has indeed kicked taj for all of the account hacks and there's a ton of drama within the shell. makes sense. didn't he have access to divisortheory's email? essentially having access to all of divisor's forum passwords? those characters ending up on leviathan AND getting handed pearls right off the bat is way too fishy and was probably planned in advance by other linkshell members as well. like someone said, occam's razor.

Who the hell gives a random person(Familiar name/Aegis or not) a linkpearl fresh off the bat from transferring servers without doing a bit of background checking? Regardless of whether or not you were desperate for a tank to log on, it emulates similar actions of one of those lses that shouts in Whitegate trying to recruit members. Seems a bit reckless of that linkshell tbh...unless I'm obviously missing something.

Sarahlynn and Garret both moved to Leviathan, Taj's server........ coincidence?
Sarahylunn is given the name Taja..... coincidence?
Sarahlynn and Garret both given pearls to Radiance, Taj's Linkshell...... coincidence?
Taj buys expensive items for at least one of the characters.... coincidence?

I like the name ^-^ If you stay on Leviathan, let's get married or something.

Rykoshet told us that Taja was his mule. I'm not gonna lie, it was pretty irresponsible of us to not question why an Aegis Paladin transferred servers and asked to join LS. That being said, he was just a trial member. Ellia or Linsivi kicked Rykoshet when the thread was posted (I think it was probably Ellia, Linsivi is in the process of moving.)

Also seems strange that a brand new trial member would be handed a multi-million gil bow out of nowhere, especially a server transfer...

He asked me to pick it up for him on the way to Divine Might, and paid me when I got there.

P.S.: What kind of Aegis PLD/NIN doesn't have a Lamian Kaman?

Any kind of plausible deniability for Taj is long gone. His excuses are amazingly lame. His first response he offeres nothing but a joke that he likes the name, but when he is called out on it, suddenly he knows all about Taja being a mule of their new PLD. Taj admitting to knowledge of this "mule" is the ultimate slip up. He claims he is not in the loop for handing out pearls, yet is on very friendly terms with the new transfer/trial PLD to the point that he knows their mules names. Must be an increadibly amazing coincidence that he needed to have Taj buy him the bow because that is pretty much required gear for Divine MIght and I am sure it just couldn't wait. <sarcasm>

Giving a linkshell to a transfer PLD with no application to your linkshell is extremely fishy. Also giving a pearl to a mule of that character is far beyond fishy.

The hacker hacks again. Big suprise. Maybe our hero, the BatTaj, only did it to show SE how vulnerable their accounts are due to some new glitch he found?

If Taj is such a respectable and accomplished hacker, isn't it a little odd that it's so obviously him?

I'd have to call frame or someone who couldn't think of a way to finish off the account raep, so they decided to do a little allusion to BG.

But half of the thread doesn't add up anyway.

Edit: Liselle beat me to it.

[Tonko]

All a bunch of coincidences, seems more like someone was trying to frame him than him just being sloppy personally.

[Gere]

If Taj did it, he'd brag about it rather than leaving thinly veiled hints.

[tessy cat]

I'll admit I'm an outsider to the situation, but I've read all the wiki/divisor drama over the past few weeks and I think it's fairly obvious Taj didn't do it. It really doesn't seem like his style. Taj was upfront with what he did the whole time, why would he randomly stage an attack against people who had done nothing wrong (or were simply guilty by association), and then point all fingers to himself to sabotage his own credibility? And if you think that's him framing himself in such an unbelievably stupid way in order to avoid blame, well just look at his past actions. I won't talk about my particular thoughts on what he did, but when he hacked DT's paypal and the wiki admins, it was to expose illicit things they had done. He might've gone a little far with it, but he didn't parade around on their toons, drop their stuff, switch servers, or did anything really against them personally. He exposed what they had left hidden, actions they had taken themselves. No one's presented any plausible reason for him to have anything against these people--not to mention if he had done it, he's not dumb enough to set himself up as the culprit.

If I ventured a guess, I would bet that it was someone who mistook Taj's actions as some form of 1337 FFXI wayward vigilantism and went after everyone because of their association with DT. Probably the reason they switched to Taj's server and interacted with his linkshell was just to flaunt what they had done instead of some big conspiracy. No one's disagreeing that Taj would have had the ability to orchestrate this, but no one's presented any reason why he would do it. Except for revenge, but why would he need that? DT all but quit the game, and everyone's applauded him for exposing Ganiman & Co. It doesn't seem plausible that he'd deliberately terrorize people who had done nothing wrong.

Btw, I wanted to express my sympathy towards those who were targeted. Even for whom it was more of an annoyance than anything, there seems to be no reason for it and it certainly is sad that this is what it has come down to. I hope you all are able to recover as much as you can and whoever did this is rightfully punished.

[Quixon]

There's one piece of evidence you're forgetting.........


Taj isn't an idiot. It makes no sense for him to go through these lengths to obtain and coordinate all this..........and then leave a big fucking neon sign pointing to him.

Does it all seem a little odd...yup.

Howeverm, it seems just as odd that he would be that retarded to leave that many footprints.

[Yutuyu]

There's one piece of evidence you're forgetting.........


Taj isn't an idiot. It makes no sense for him to go through these lengths to obtain and coordinate all this..........and then leave a big fucking neon sign pointing to him.

He is a narcicist though.

[Jefe]

All a bunch of coincidences, seems more like someone was trying to frame him than him just being sloppy personally.

There's one piece of evidence you're forgetting.........


Taj isn't an idiot. It makes no sense for him to go through these lengths to obtain and coordinate all this..........and then leave a big fucking neon sign pointing to him.

Does it all seem a little odd...yup.

Howeverm, it seems just as odd that he would be that retarded to leave that many footprints.

Is it too far fetched for anyone to try to make it seem that way? I mean by making it too obvious, so obvious that it's almost implausible?

I think it's possible ;o The plot thickens!

/cliche