Account Lost and Recovered

[Rentwokay]

It was me.

Anybody want anything from McDonald's? I'm gonna head there now...

[aurik]

Motive: revenge.

Revenge for what? You need to stop being retarded about this. Taj has no motive to hack people on a different server than have nothing to do with his outing of Divisortheory.

[Sasarai]

Taj is guilty, because he's a professional hacker who left hundreds of clues that he was involved wut.

Summary for those who don't speak stupid.

[Croaker]

[quote=Liselle]

i·ron'i·cal·ly adv., i·ron'i·cal·ness n.

Usage Note: The words ironic, irony, and ironically are sometimes used of events and circumstances that might better be described as simply "coincidental" or "improbable,"

Is this some kind of joke post? That's a USAGE NOTE, and you didn't even quote the part of it that refutes your entire post. Here's the whole thing!

Usage Note: The words ironic, irony, and ironically are sometimes used of events and circumstances that might better be described as simply "coincidental" or "improbable," in that they suggest no particular lessons about human vanity or folly. Thus 78 percent of the Usage Panel rejects the use of ironically in the sentence In 1969 Susie moved from Ithaca to California where she met her husband-to-be, who, ironically, also came from upstate New York. Some Panelists noted that this particular usage might be acceptable if Susie had in fact moved to California in order to find a husband, in which case the story could be taken as exemplifying the folly of supposing that we can know what fate has in store for us. By contrast, 73 percent accepted the sentence Ironically, even as the government was fulminating against American policy, American jeans and videocassettes were the hottest items in the stalls of the market, where the incongruity can be seen as an example of human inconsistency.

You should have read the whole thing! The Usage Panel clearly rejects the use of "ironically" as simply meaning "coincidental".[/quote:3ed7c]

So im from the south. I guess I am the other 22% of America. Nice to meet you. That is the way I have always used it, but you have made me see the error of my bad grammar usage ways.

Is this better?

There is the remote chance that Divisor is trying to frame Taj. If so, it is very "coincidental" and "improbable" that Taj just happened to play right into the frame, by getting so intimate with the new Ryko.

[Araius]

Motive: revenge.

Revenge for what? You need to stop being retarded about this. Taj has no motive to hack people on a different server than have nothing to do with his outing of Divisortheory.

I'm not so sure about that. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that Taj: 1) Was sad that a number of people, particularly those in Ultima, were badmouthing him and calling him out, and 2) Sought to teach the infidels a lesson.

That said I really do think this looks like a frame.

[Saraphym]

It's surprising how fast people can drop ethics/morals just to get their daily/weekly/monthly serving of drama(myself included a lot of times).

I'm all for people getting screwed because they were dumb enough to give out their id/pw etc to others w/o knowing the culprit properly. Hacking into someone else's account etc is another matter I feel and doesn't really justify itself regardless of who the person is or what he/she has done. Although I'll admit, like everyone else probably, I'm just curious to know the whole story now... so... F5F5F5

[Locodawg]

this is the perfect crime from taj's perspective cause up to this point he was always been extremely vocal about his hacking endevours, so that's pretty much his alibi. the way i see it he hacked the ultima forums to dig dirt on kalia a while back while sifting through the info/pm's during that time he noticed the account user/pass's, this prob gave him some stuff to think about so instead of useing whatever evidence he found on those forums he set that proof aside and kept it under the covers as to not bring unneeded attention to himself for what he might of been planning to do at a later time. most likely after careful consideration he set up the plan to do a unified attack on all the accounts he found but of course people would assume it would be him so he had to throw some extra names around such as ksandra ryko and of course Kalia, at which point he moved some of the more useless accounts such as aang's mule over to hades to again throw some attention off him and more towards the bg community, the fact of renameing the "mule" taja was also another ploy to make it seem like it's way too obvious to actually be him because he isn't stupid so why would he do something so obvious right?

pretty much he's getting what he wanted the whole bg community is standing up for him because this isn't the "norm" for taj, so taj can sit back and the rest of the people will stand up for him, it's pretty hard to have access to 8-9 accounts with relic items etc and not be tempted at all to do anything withem specially when you don't know the people and have no real association withem. it's pretty clean cut, he's obviously not dumb and he played all his cards right if he covered all his tracks 100% people would assume it was him even more, adding in a few names here and there causes a bit of confusion just detering from the facts. his posts about the issue have also been pretty short and to the point which makes people assume again it wasn't him, but then you gotta realise the overall facts of how the attack was actually done and who had the means to perform it. the only gm's who can actually see your ip are the lead gm's because of the privacy laws etc and there's what 2 of those, so unless u guys work your ass's off to get the issue high enough to be reviewed by a lead gm you're pretty much boned.

just think about it for a bit, it all eventually falls into place, and there's no real proof to pin it on him or anyone else people can assume all day but that's the point isn't it in the end nothing will happen to taj, it'll prob all just blow over, the people will get their accounts back get fined 50$ or whatever for switchin servers twice and just be left with alot of bad memories, and taj can add another notch under his belt for the him > you factor.

this is just my opinion on the matter as an outside perspective, don't have to agree with me but gives ya something to think about rather then the norm

[Sasarai]

New Information: Message found saved on Fake Ryko's POL Mail saying "Taj was here".

That proves it, its definetly him guys.

[defiant]

Motive: revenge.

Revenge for what? You need to stop being retarded about this. Taj has no motive to hack people on a different server than have nothing to do with his outing of Divisortheory.

I'm not so sure about that. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that Taj: 1) Was sad that a number of people, particularly those in Ultima, were badmouthing him and calling him out, and 2) Sought to teach the infidels a lesson.

That said I really do think this looks like a frame.

I might be missing something but before all of this where do you get the impression ultima was bad mouthing Taj? maybe there is something here i missed reading?

[Sasarai]

pretty much he's getting what he wanted the whole bg community is standing up for him because this isn't the "norm" for taj,

It's not the normal for ANYONE. Are you really suggesting Taj left large amounts of evidence that he was involved, when he could have done it easily in such a way that people would be none the wiser? Accounts get jacked every single day, the fact we hear about this one for 11 pages is because it has the names of three BG Posting Regulars, Taj, Ryko and Ksandra involved.

Are you that stupid?

[aurik]

Motive: revenge.

Revenge for what? You need to stop being retarded about this. Taj has no motive to hack people on a different server than have nothing to do with his outing of Divisortheory.

I'm not so sure about that. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility that Taj: 1) Was sad that a number of people, particularly those in Ultima, were badmouthing him and calling him out, and 2) Sought to teach the infidels a lesson.

That said I really do think this looks like a frame.

I might be missing something but before all of this where do you get the impression ultima was bad mouthing Taj? maybe there is something here i missed reading?

From my understanding, Divisortheory was forced out of Ultima after his past indiscretion was revealed, doesn't seem like the kind of actions that would make Taj want to get revenge.

If anything, it is motive for Divisor to get back at the people that basically excommunicated him, and at the same time shift the blame onto Taj.

[Locodawg]

so you're saying 9 people getting hacked at random with no evidance at all wouldn't point fingers at taj after all the other "epic" shit he's done, come on now. i aint sayin im a rocket scientist just thinking logically

[Garret]

Motive: revenge.

Revenge for what? You need to stop being retarded about this. Taj has no motive to hack people on a different server than have nothing to do with his outing of Divisortheory.

We were all longtime shell members of DT, it is possible he simply felt like fucking a lot of us over under the 'guilty by association' evidence standard. Possible? Sure. Definite? No.

People can think whatever they like about skeleton's in people's closets, but the truth of the matter is this.

An individual player knows what their own skeletons are, any 3rd party software they have installed, any gil they may have ever bought, some private reason someone might hate them, etc. It makes other people feel better about the situation to assume that there is some skeleton in that closet that somehow makes a person more 'deserving' for getting screwed over because it lets them think "This isn't going to happen to me, I am legit for so and so reason, etc." By shifting some blameworthiness to those injured you feel better about yourself, and more secure about yourself.

If people feel like reading more information into it, fine, go ahead, but those involved know their own personal history, you don't, and it's just a weak defense mechanism to let you sleep better at night.

Odds are good that whoever did this, Taj or otherwise, will not suffer any form of stigma as a result. I doubt the cops or anyone will get involved if they are even contacted, or if enough evidence could be acquired to prove anything in a court that would be willing to do something assuming it was. However, whether that is true or not, they broke the law, made fraudulent charges on people's credit cards, misrepresented information, etc. That's the same as going and stealing someone's physical CC and using it to buy a few pizza's or something, think it's small potatoes of you want, maybe it is. But if you get your kicks by risking getting arrested then knock yourself out, because there actually are penalties out there independent of the fact that it's 'just a game'.

And in short, many of the responders on here are downright pathetic in their analysis of a situation.

Back to reading about Civil Procedures.

[Eticket]

From my understanding, Divisortheory was forced out of Ultima after his past indiscretion was revealed, doesn't seem like the kind of actions that would make Taj want to get revenge.

He dropped his pearl. He didn't want to pull Ultima into any of that crap.

[Sasarai]

so you're saying 9 people getting hacked at random with no evidance at all wouldn't point fingers at taj after all the other "epic" shit he's done, come on now

Friend of mine got his account jacked (dodgy passwords) a few weeks back. That was Taj too right?

Oh hey, maybe Taj kidnapped Madeline McCann!

[Koul]

Real Koul here~~

Since I can't access my linkshell forums, I just wanted to let Ultima/Valefor people know I got my character back :D

Was really worried about forever losing him since I lost the register codes and a friend was actually paying for my account but Ashmus pulled through and called the lady up, it was actually kinda fun cause I was telling him my crap over vent and he then told the lady on the phone lol

My manteel and nobles tunic were taken but everything else if fine~ Also, Garr and sarah I'll be seeing you guys on Leviathan lol and I'll see Ultima in 3 months! lol

one thing I wanna say to the cockfucker that did this is that I'm a fucking faggot but I probably get more pussy than you. Get a worthwhile life

[Locodawg]

1 account is alot different then 9 account from the same ls, when has something like this happened in the past?

[zeri]

Maybe our hero, the BatTaj, only did it to show...

Whoever did this, Taj or not, is certainly no hero. To victimize good players who've done nothing wrong, and tear apart a linkshell for that end is just awful.

Now, a real hero would try to get their accounts restored to their proper server...



While having fun with conspiracy theories, why not say a member or sackholder of Radiance?
1) Being in LS, easier to get the fake Ryko and Taja in. Vouch for em or give pearl themselves
2) Maybe wanted to show up Taj, have that showdown, or maybe was jealous or felt slighted by him. Whatever.
3) Being in LS with him, may have picked up a thing or two from him about hacking.
4) Goes after honest folks related to a previous hack of Taj's.
5) Just to flaunt it and add more connections, stupid shit like the bow (why ask him over any other shell member?) and naming the mule Taja.
6) The unjustifiable hack gets him feared and shunned, he leaves LS. Win!
7) As a member or leader, discourage the LS from responding to this forum to explain their actions
8) Why Rykoshet? It's weak but he's very active in the forums, maybe trying to create another connection based on...

1) Taj isn't going to hack you for purely disagreeing with him, or even being confrontational about it. If he did my account would have been gone 2 years ago.

Like I said, if you want to have fun with conspiracies go ahead. I'm sure whoever did it is shitting themselves, giggling at all the theories flying about. I'd say what's most important is trying to get everyone back to Valefor ASAP and the $25 fees they were slammed with returned.

Any gaming company whether it is Blizzard,EA games, NC Soft, or even Square-Enix will tell the players the same thing. They can't pursue a hacked account until the authorities Federal/police are notified. They WILL comply when there is a case number and the authorities contact them.

Word. I hope Gar, Aang, Sarah, Jas and everyone takes action on this.

[aurik]

From my understanding, Divisortheory was forced out of Ultima after his past indiscretion was revealed, doesn't seem like the kind of actions that would make Taj want to get revenge.

He dropped his pearl. He didn't want to pull Ultima into any of that crap.

Doesn't change the fact that he was induced to quit Ultima because of his exposure as a giant gilbuyer, ie, forced out.

[Sev]

Oh my god taj must have hacked my mule account last week!!! No seriously my friend who I shared the account with allowed his sister to do dumb shit and got the accounts stolen. Anyone else notice how the "victims" all got there accounts back and just pointing fingers at taj. Revenge for DT?

All the same linkshell, most friends with DT. Not saying DT had anything to do with it but maybe these people have a grudge...


edit~> If you bitch enough at s-e and get a sgm they can move you back before the time is up etc.