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  1. #661
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    I've dealt with helping an old LS of mine (12 accts were jacked--keyloggers on internet cafe computers) get their accts back a while back. My strongest recommendation is keep calling. If you don't like what one guy says, hang up and call back. The reps are people, they're all different in how far they're willing to go to help.

  2. #662
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Antonidas
    Quote Originally Posted by Spoony Bob
    This whole thing has made me strangely excited for SE's official windower.
    No kidding. The fearmongers were right, after all.
    Wasn't via windower--he just comprised their LS's forums, read PM's they sent, and got the information from there. Given how out of date almost every LS's forum installs are, it's almost trivial to do so.


    ps: Bitch at your forum admins to keep their shit up to date.

  3. #663
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Naramaska
    Wasn't via windower--he just comprised their LS's forums, read PM's they sent, and got the information from there. Given how out of date almost every LS's forum installs are, it's almost trivial to do so.
    Just because that this wasn't done with windower doesn't mean that it won't ever be done with windower. Any and all trust should be thrown out at this point.

  4. #664
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Cat
    I'm not really bothered about insults, ryko clearly just misintepreted what I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Churchill
    Except possibly the 8 other accounts who didn't buy OR steal gil.
    And you're sure about that? Again, not like it's a huge crime, but not everyone is of clear conscience.
    No i'm not sure, but from the sounds of things Taj just hit them up 'because he could' while he was getting the RMTed aegis.
    People are going to think whatever they want to think, and I could care less there, however unless 1-2m pays for an entire relic it is not RMT'd.

  5. #665
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    I was sitting on the fance, just kinda watching the fireworks and not trying to pass unrightful judgement on anyone until the truth was revealed, but gotta say, not so much with the Taj admiration after this.

    Talented hacker, undoubtedly. But stooping so low as to target people from DT's FORMER linkshell? Wow, that's low. >.>

  6. #666
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    For those worried about windower, Starhawk is the project lead. nothing can be added to windower without starhawks review and approval. The download url's file cannot be changed unless its from starhawk himself.

    You can rest assured that windower will never be used for such actions, there is nothing to worry about.

  7. #667
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Garret
    People are going to think whatever they want to think, and I could care less there, however unless 1-2m pays for an entire relic it is not RMT'd.
    so I guessed right about the astrals/snipers? but yeah sorry to have to bring it up earlier man but i was trying to help get this all aired out. hope your acct is back in your control.

    looks like this is all pretty much over. guess i'm done. this is just the part where i tell everyone i was right. i'm glad someone finally picked up on it all. gl to all in ultima ls, hang tight guys.

    gotta give a shout out to all the mindless ass kissers on bg. taj definitely fucked up here, but he still managed to highlight how brown your noses are. special mention to aurik for being a huge tool and a flip flopper in this topic. turns out i wasn't harassing anyone now, was I?

    pw to this forum acct is tajmahal if anyone wants to check the PMs (i guess before lynsy does and deletes them?). later bg, back to quietly leveling my mnk.

  8. #668
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Just a little question for Taj here : Why?

    For the lulz? extended revenge over DT? fight the RMT?
    No matter the reasons i can imagine , it wasn't just enough to deliberately destroy such hard earned fame and icon you built up over the last few weeks.
    No matter how I twist stuff around , that was just so fucking dumb of you. Really.
    Unless you plan on quitting anytime soon.

    Anyway for all the ex Taj lovers : heroes don't exist. Not on the internetz. D:

  9. #669
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by mahal
    turns out i wasn't harassing anyone now, was I?
    Actually you were, Beckwin.

  10. #670
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    So this is still fallout from the Wiki thing? I'll admit that I'm not really to butthurt that he took the route he did to out that drama, because the people with lol on their face were lying.

    This though, this is just vile. Spectacular way to quit the game too, since after this I doubt anyone on any server is going to be willing to associate with you.

    Advised from a call center person in response to
    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    Don't call a GM. Don't use the POL.com Service and Support. Your best bet would be to actually call SE. If the first rep doesn't give you what you want, ask for a supervisor. Stress the fact you're upset, explain the situation fully, and keep asking for a supervisor when you don't get what you want. Eventually, you should get someone high enough who can do something. Hopefully, anyways.
    This is likely your best bet. SE's call center has always displayed a very rigid set of rules for what they will do with accounts, and not all of them make sense*. However you make enough work for them and something may happen. God knows this isn't fair but hey, maybe if you can prove that someone used illicit means to access your account they'll have some sympathy. Also, try driving home to whoever you talk to that not having any kind of secondary security is dumb on their part.

    *Recovering characters when you don't have the current billing information, not needing verification or the current information to change said billing information.

    Edit: I know you did. I used the quote button on the forum, dunno what happened.

  11. #671
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Taj is still awesome in my eyes.

    (In a good or bad way?)

  12. #672
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Meh, I laughed before, I didn't laugh at this. Too much crap going down to justify with "The RMT Wars" excuse. I think alot of people can justify overlooking shady shit in "the persuit of truth" but noone discovered anything groundbreaking here. So a few people RMTd an Astral. That's not worthy of crazy exploits. I don't see any real upside to this. Nothing had been taken prior to this, and there was nothing uncovered. No stealing of thousands of dollars, no lying about making hundreds of thousands of dollars. Nothing....

    Pretty much just left a shell in shambles with little to no real reason why. Is Real Money Trading any worse than Fake Money Stealing? It's not justice anymore, it's punishment. Truely meh.

    BatTaj is dead, long live the Punisher.

  13. #673
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Antonidas didn't say that I did. >_>

    Edit: o ok

  14. #674
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Desty
    Just a little question for Taj here : Why?

    For the lulz? extended revenge over DT? fight the RMT?
    No matter the reasons i can imagine , it wasn't just enough to deliberately destroy such hard earned fame and icon you built up over the last few weeks.
    No matter how I twist stuff around , that was just so fucking dumb of you. Really.
    Unless you plan on quitting anytime soon.

    Anyway for all the ex Taj lovers : heroes don't exist. Not on the internetz. D:
    didn't you read joeey's post?

    he did it all for the nookie

    what else does a teenager want

  15. #675
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by mahal
    turns out i wasn't harassing anyone now, was I?
    Actually you were, Beckwin.

    Whatever attitude you're gonna take about other people in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's somebody you ought to be apologizing to, hate em or not.


    edit: I suppose I shouldn't assume that you haven't privately, just sayin.

  16. #676
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    unload ll

    edit: Ashira, i'm curious what your opinion is after you were defending him so vigoursly before

  17. #677
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Fuck that, LL owns.

  18. #678
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by jerkbox
    Quote Originally Posted by Desty
    Just a little question for Taj here : Why?

    For the lulz? extended revenge over DT? fight the RMT?
    No matter the reasons i can imagine , it wasn't just enough to deliberately destroy such hard earned fame and icon you built up over the last few weeks.
    No matter how I twist stuff around , that was just so fucking dumb of you. Really.
    Unless you plan on quitting anytime soon.

    Anyway for all the ex Taj lovers : heroes don't exist. Not on the internetz. D:
    didn't you read joeey's post?

    he did it all for the nookie

    what else does a teenager want
    attention... poor boy didn't get hugged enough? >.>

  19. #679
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Shuvo
    unload ll
    Too late, I already moved you to Lakshmi and named you Rukenshin.

    P.S.: I believe this man wins the thread for his initial assumption.

  20. #680
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    Re: Account Lost and Recovered

    Quote Originally Posted by Plow
    Quote Originally Posted by aurik
    Quote Originally Posted by mahal
    turns out i wasn't harassing anyone now, was I?
    Actually you were, Beckwin.

    Whatever attitude you're gonna take about other people in this thread, I'm pretty sure there's somebody you ought to be apologizing to, hate em or not.

    edit: I suppose I shouldn't assume that you haven't privately, just sayin.
    No, gilbuyers [and sellers!] don't deserve an apology from me.

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