FINAL FANTASY XI Update (Sep. 25)

[Seyrr]

At the following time, we performed a version update of FINAL FANTASY XI.

[Affected Period]
Sep. 25, 2007 12:00 (PDT)

[Affected Services]
FINAL FANTASY XI

[Important Update Details]
- Counter measure was implemented to combat abuse of an improper function of the game.

This version update was performed to implement a counter measure to an improper use of the game that was found on Sep. 11, 2007.
The counter measure for the NPC Varchet in Southern San d'Oria is still being tested by our team and it will be addressed in the near future.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/polnew ... 1355.shtml

So the Varchet issue was a smoke screen, then?

[Tomiko]

My bet is on Friday maint.

What was the problem with Varchet anyways?

[Koga]

Possibly... I wish they would flat out tell us what the are doing though.
If they are fixing it; does it really matter if we know or not?



EDIT>> Obligatory.. someone go test AV now -_-

[Amele]

so what did they fix today then? details!

[Hanyoko]

Varchet has a repeatable quest which can net you 10 gil at the risk of 5 gil. I think the odds were weighed in favor of the player.

So i'm assuming multiply that by bot(s) doing it 24/7 and you have a free gil machine.

[Khamsin]

My bet is on Friday maint.

What was the problem with Varchet anyways?

He allowed you to gamble 5 gil, and potentionally (if you were lucky enough or found a way to abuse him) you could flood the economy with new gil... 5 at a time.

People laugh at the idea of tons of RMT making 5 gil at a time, but hey... never know what they'll try next. There isn't really anything else you could do with Varchet that'd cause a maintenance other than abuse him to create gil through illicit means.

[Tomiko]

Thanks, I was thinking it was something bigger than that since that's been around for the longest time.

[Khamsin]

Thanks, I was thinking it was something bigger than that since that's been around for the longest time.

So has the stone monument quest, but RMT didn't start manipulating that until somewhat recently.

[Nighteagle]

just wondering, but anyone else had problems with the NPC Ughrid or whatever that you get Coins from for Imperial Standing? Im on PS2, and if i stay in whitegate for over 10minutes and talk to him for a silverpiece, he will disconnect me when i talk to him. Its happened numerous times to me too.

[Narse]

just wondering, but anyone else had problems with the NPC Ughrid or whatever that you get Coins from for Imperial Standing? Im on PS2, and if i stay in whitegate for over 10minutes and talk to him for a silverpiece, he will disconnect me when i talk to him. Its happened numerous times to me too.

This happens with a member in my LS as well, though I think she plays on PC..

[Tomiko]

just wondering, but anyone else had problems with the NPC Ughrid or whatever that you get Coins from for Imperial Standing? Im on PS2, and if i stay in whitegate for over 10minutes and talk to him for a silverpiece, he will disconnect me when i talk to him. Its happened numerous times to me too.

I've had that happen alot in Whitegate lately and was thinking it was my PS2 til I heard others having the same trouble.

I've had the game freeze when talking to Ughrid, Mog House NPC & Sanction NPC.

Edit: Never had it happen until the past couple weeks/month.

[Ahnuld]

Happens to me to or it takes about 5 minutes for the dialogue to load from those NPCs.

[Cameron]

i have been having it happen with the nyzel assualt npc with me. sometimes it makes me sit there for 15 mins before i can move.

[Natallon]

signet and sanction npcs do this to me but only for about 10 seconds

[megabyte]

I traded my official soul reflector to apply for a match and got d/c yesterday, now I am unable to log back into my main character.. only my mules.

[Valrath]

Varchet has a repeatable quest which can net you 10 gil at the risk of 5 gil. I think the odds were weighed in favor of the player.

So i'm assuming multiply that by bot(s) doing it 24/7 and you have a free gil machine.

Gigas drop like 100-200 gil w/ gilfinder. While it does involve some work, it's much more time-effective. Hell, killing lvl 5 beastmen is more effective.

[Khamsin]

Varchet has a repeatable quest which can net you 10 gil at the risk of 5 gil. I think the odds were weighed in favor of the player.

So i'm assuming multiply that by bot(s) doing it 24/7 and you have a free gil machine.

Gigas drop like 100-200 gil w/ gilfinder. While it does involve some work, it's much more time-effective. Hell, killing lvl 5 beastmen is more effective.

Ah, but SE is looking for farmers! Those crafty chinese thought they could fly under the radar with this one.

Yes, I realize not all chinese are RMT, but 90% of the RMT are chinese. It was more of a "those sneaky Russians" kind of context.

[Saraphym]

At the following time, we performed a version update of FINAL FANTASY XI.

[Affected Period]
Sep. 25, 2007 12:00 (PDT)

[Affected Services]
FINAL FANTASY XI

[Important Update Details]
- Counter measure was implemented to combat abuse of an improper function of the game.

This version update was performed to implement a counter measure to an improper use of the game that was found on Sep. 11, 2007.
The counter measure for the NPC Varchet in Southern San d'Oria is still being tested by our team and it will be addressed in the near future.

We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you.

It are the terrorist.


but srsly, this was unknown to me.

[lilfoo]

lets make a guess at how much money they were making.

they were more then likely boting so a trade every 2 seconds dose not sound far fetched.

lets make a 'perfect' example because it dose not sound too far fetched in this case

((5 gil)/(2 sec))*(60 sec.-> min.)*(60 min. -> hours)*(24 Hours-> day) = ~216,000 gil/day

now thats only with one. lets say they over did it with like 20 bots thats ~4,320,000 gil/day

now this is a 'perfect' example but you get the point. they would make 4.3 mil a day with 0 effort and still be able to do w/e else they do with there main accounts.

hell if it was like this still i would bot it over night for free money...

[theo]

Varchet has a repeatable quest which can net you 10 gil at the risk of 5 gil. I think the odds were weighed in favor of the player.

So i'm assuming multiply that by bot(s) doing it 24/7 and you have a free gil machine.

Gigas drop like 100-200 gil w/ gilfinder. While it does involve some work, it's much more time-effective. Hell, killing lvl 5 beastmen is more effective.

After seeing the fish-spam hack a few threads ago, it seems entirely possible that RMT found a way to spam the gambling quest at faster-than-normal speeds. If thats the case, turn on the bot and just let it go for a few hours, the gil could add up pretty quickly.

Maybe 4 transactions a second (the fish bot was 4 per second iirc), you could potentially get a million gil in a 24 hour period without doing any work except turning it on.