Damage Calculation Order & Damage Reduction Gear

[Kimiko]

Ok, question. Earlier this evening @ Dynamis: Bastok, I survived a point blank Eagle Eye Shot from a Vanguard Mason (354 damage total). It lead me to wonder in what order would the calculation of damage be completed in.

Following effects/gear were on at the time:

Stoneskin (113 MND, Maxed Enhancing for BLM (200))
Phalanx
Earth Staff (Physical Damage Reduction -20%)
Chevoit Cape (Physical Damage Reduction -5%, was daytime at time of hit)
Sorc. Earring (Latent Effect: Physical Damage Reduction -30%)

[Kirschy]

Fairly confidant it works in this fashion:

1)First the Damage Formula is used (Base D * pdif). {This is where VIT and Defense matter}

2)Then all Damage Reduction eq is added together, and reduces the previous result. {D.Ring, Earth Staff, etc...}

3)Phalanx reduction then takes place. It's a static damage reduction.

4)The damage is then subtracted from your stoneskin. {Any stoneskin-like effect would take place at this stage.}

5)Actual HP reduction.

EDIT: In your above example, Physical Damage reduction caps at 50%. Phalanx is about 25ish for BLM Enhancing Skill(not certian). Your stoneskin is prob 250ish? I'm realli bad on the Phal/SS formulas as I rarely play mage jobs, but those are rough estimates.

So working backwards with some average values...
Your Stoneskin was probably 250~ Meaning you took about 250+355 = 605 Damage
Phal prob reduced it by 25 damage, so 605+25 = 630 Damage
Physical Damage Reduction was probably capped at 50%, so 630x2 = 1260 Damage~

[Dammerung]

What was your max hp? I thought that the earring would activate on damage that pushes you into the latent.

In terms of order, to my knowledge it works like so:
-dmg%
Phalanx
Stoneskin

So the EES you ate was only 1081 damage if my math is right (cheviot is superfluous since 50% is damage cap).

[Kimiko]

Damage Reduction gear puts me at 712 hp

[Tricen]

Isn't the -%'s to the /245 or whatever the fraction is?

[VZX]

Isn't the -%'s to the /245 or whatever the fraction is?

/256

256 = 2^8

bit shift ftw

[Evelyn]

/256 or /512, and (assuming we're getting as close to the actual %s as possible)

20% = 51/256 and 30% = 77/256, which = 128/256, so even then the cheviot shouldn't matter.

Then again the actual number might be different, I'm not going off of testing.

[Delekii]

with those stats, you had 347 hp stoneskin, and -18 damage phalanx.

[Jer]

EES from Dynamis Mobs, Bastok especially, can just be made of fail most of the time. When I go on BLM, I'll routinely pull hate on the RNG right before they 2hour just because the majority of the time they'll do 0 if I'm buffed. About the only thing I'll macro in, is the Earth Staff right after the spell goes off, just in case, but even skip that if I'm casting Thunder.

[aurik]

EES afaik is basically a sidewinder without the secondary mods. Which means if they have crappy attack, they won't get big pDIF and it won't be multiplied much.

When I have counterstance on, I routinely take 2500~ damage from dynamis EES.

[LD]

Isn't EES only the arrow damage, or something weird like that?

[VZX]

It's like what Aurik said
It's Slugwinder w/o secondary modifier

[Sidanoir]

Forget EES, ore toss is broken on Quadavs...

Took 1600 a couple times and over 1000 on other occasions....