Ouryu resist build.

[Secksi]

Quick question for anyone able to answer, about how much resist do you need before carol/barstonra would you need to get 85-95% resist on Ouryu? I'm looking at ninja gear possibilities and I can get about 130 without going crazy on stupid HQ's like Robust Earrings. Is that enough, or possibly less so I could put some -%mdr gear in?

Edit-one more thing I did try searching for a bit but couldn't find a good number to go by, unless it's just a universal 300 for every mob?

[Weeks]

I swap to 115 from gear, and while I take significantly more damage than I do from fire-based mobs due to the incomplete set, it's easily manageable.

[Dammerung]

You should be hitting 300+ with that, so I'm pretty sure that will be a strong resist set.

[Aesctaa]

Go with as much bar-earth equip as you can, 300-320 is a good total to aim for, having a WHM with AF2 pants + good enhancing build and a BRD with a HQ crumhorn helps greatly. Even removing 5-10 resist can lower the resist rate a lot so exclude MDB or -magic dmg taken items unless there is nothing you can use for earth resist in that slot.

[Secksi]

Thanks guys! I have 159 base fire resist but never check to see what it is after I get carol/barfira, lol. Our bards have crumhorn +1 and whms have af2 pants so that shouldn't be a problem, I've just never tanked Ouryu before and decided to put together a resist set before I go in tomorrow, was hoping what I can easily get will be enough.

[Kaeko]

Steamed Catfish (+10 earth resist)

If your set had Sand Gloves, I'd take those off. Nasty drop rate.

300 is not some magic number it's going to be mob specific. For instance, if you somehow got about 290 ice resist for jorm, you'll find that it's still really hard to resist blizzaga3s for whatever reason - it's not some magic #. 300 does work well enough for Ouryu.

[Asdra]

The lower resist on Jorm doesn't work as well because of the constant ice weather in the range, giving extra accuracy to its attacks.

You don't have that problem with Ouryu though. 290-300 will work though. Thats what our paladins go for and have never noticed any sort of problems.

[Hakamaru]

This is what I switch to when Ouryu flies (138 resist). Works like a charm. The sand gloves are a luxury, so don't beat yourself up if you can't get your hands on them.

http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/profile.xml?166740

I sorta bounce back and forth on the food I eat. Sometimes Steamed Catfish if I know my WHM isn't meritted on barspell completely. Otherwise, I just use Carbonara. You don't need quite as much resist to tank ouryu effectively compared to Tiamat.

[Secksi]

Thanks guys, good to know sand gloves are a luxury because unless I get stupidly lucky(ask anyone that knows me, it doesn't happen) I won't be able to get them before we go.

Edit@Haka-thanks for the gearset, that's almost exactly what I was looking at except for Green Ribbon+1 instead of that head, lol. Would resentment cape be a better choice if sand gloves are optional but you had them?

[Pninja]

Thanks guys! I have 159 base fire resist but never check to see what it is after I get carol/barfira, lol.

BRD with Crumhorn+1 will give +50 Resist

75WHM with just Enhancing Magic capped and no merits/extra gear is +86 Resist

75WHM with AF2 legs + reasonable Enhancing Gear (AF2 Feet, torque, earring) + barmerits 5/5 is rougly +120 Resist

If you have the latter of the WHMs in your party, you're getting +170 Resist from your mages. So the other 130+ will be all you for the "Magic Number" hehe. But I'm sure that number is waaaaay high for this particular fight (not like you need to resist everything 100% with this strategy of killing).

Minions, an Aegis PLD in my LS, has some screenshots in his sig that I'll steal the link to for you to look at the damage. Krelian is the NIN co-tank and also has a high resist setup. I'm the WHM, with +121 Barspell and MDB bonuses as well from ShellraV, barspell merits, and Blessed Briault +1 effect (believed to be about 5% MDB on the element for the NQ/HQ). Good luck ^^

http://geocities.com/tsreg/ouryu

Edit: those SS have Phalanx 2 applied through some of it also.

[Hakamaru]

Would resentment cape be a better choice if sand gloves are optional but you had them?

It's sort of a wash in my mind. If you're going for top resist tier, then 1) resentment cape isn't going to reduce a lot of damage since you're getting hit for such small pieces per round. 2) giving up any single piece of resist on ouryu might bump you down a resist tier depending on the rest of your gear and WHM merits etc.

I usually go balls-out resist for Ouryu. No one even notices my Taru HP if I do that.

And yes, Green Ribbon +1 is completely equivalent to Tsoo's Headgear. I just use it because I have it and I lack a Black Ribbon.

[Secksi]

Black Ribbon is never for sale here, and when it was last, I didn't have the gil.

About the cape, you mentioned that sand gloves were overkill with proper support, so I figured resentment would be good for the times you don't resist(-7 not needed resist for 5% MDR/+2 enmity), and also I'm sure the enmity would help.

Like I said though, I'm not sure since I haven't tanked this yet :D

[Hakamaru]

Black Ribbon is never for sale here, and when it was last, I didn't have the gil.

About the cape, you mentioned that sand gloves were overkill with proper support, so I figured resentment would be good for the times you don't resist(-7 not needed resist for 5% MDR/+2 enmity), and also I'm sure the enmity would help.

Like I said though, I'm not sure since I haven't tanked this yet :D

I didn't say they're overkill. I said they're a luxury. I have them, so I wear them. But I understand that camping them is a bitch +1, so you're not going to die without them. If you get them, wear them... but don't feel like a failure if that bastard lizard won't give it up for you. I don't think it's possible to completely cap out resist on Ouryu (although you can get very close), so more resist is more better in my mind.

The problem with resentment cape is mathematical truncations are going to make it pretty ineffective when you're resisting most of the time. It says 5% on the gear, but you won't be getting a full 5% from it since most hits should be below the range were 5% will take off more than 1 damage. Sort of like Ethereal Earring... it doesn't do jack for your MP if you're getting hit for 30's constantly.

[Weeks]

I was actually heading to Ouryu last night when I replied to this. My build is similar to Haka's, but I have a Black Ribbon, don't have the HQ staff and I have never bothered to have Topaz or Emerald Earrings crafted (Just keep Eris' +1 on when he goes airborne). I was taking 52 damage last night when I had Carol and a decent Barstone effect up, but four times that pretty regularly if either one dropped. That was with a WHM who wasn't maxed out though (+107 instead of the +114 it caps out at on WHM), so 115 resist from gear plus 167 from spells.

[Berdysh]

300 total resist isn't universal for every mob, but it works fine on Ouryu. 130 resist is great, particularly with Phalanx II, if your White Mage is giving you 120 and your Bard is giving you 50. If you're not getting that from your support, then you may want to go a little more crazy on your gear, but overall it's not going to make or break the fight. You can obviously go higher than 130 with Sand gloves, HQs and certain food, but I've always preferred hitting 130 and going with Tacos, because you will occasionally get hit on the ground in between sleeps (or if you do it the non-manaburn way), and you bleed considerably less hate and give your mages less of a scare when Ouryu is only hitting you for like 120 DMG per attack.

[Secksi]

Great info from everyone, thanks! given me a lot of insight into what I need. We're fixing to go very soon and I'm about 10 mins away from last chance to see Nuttlicker pop, I'm sure I won't see him, lol. Oh well :D

[BerenTebogo]

I've ALWAYS done Ouryu as NIN or PLD but either way in full 100% 300+ resist gear, but today we popped my orb and since its YOYD I figured I could risk some fun.

Did mostly enmity setup, think +42ish /war and just full time Ares' body, with bar / carol i took static 145-175 damage in air, really wasnt too bad, had 7 BLM 100% manaburned it, hate never budged and it was like a 35 minute fight.

Still a work in progress, trying to decide what pieces w/o much enmity I could swap out, but some spots I have to choose like trance belt or wind belt, and I just really dont like half-assing half/half setups, since you lose benefits from both.

Long story short, it really doesn't matter, my hume MP pool with no MP merits / refresh / ballad was more than enough (had to clutch chivalry once but w/e) if you like taking 5-20 dmg per air shot, thats fine, go for it, if you wanna go all out enmity thats fine too, just dont mix-match it and gimp yourself.

[Beckwin]

if you manaburn it, go pld/drk and you don't have to sweat +enmity in the air at all.

I personally get pretty decent results with 115ish resist from gear (iirc). Room for improvement though. Ouryu is definitely easier to resist than Jorm and probably about on par with Tiamat (maybe a tad easier).

[Naramaska]

BRD with Crumhorn+1 will give +50 Resist

Could very well be mistaken, but I thought it was +60?

[Pninja]

BRD with Crumhorn+1 will give +50 Resist

Could very well be mistaken, but I thought it was +60?

Nope, 40 with base spell + 5 bar per +1 on an instrument = 50.

That was with a WHM who wasn't maxed out though (+107 instead of the +114 it caps out at on WHM)

+114 is the cap? News to me FYI for anyone who cares...

Barspell Formula:

[( (Enhancing Magic Skill + gearskill + skill merits) / 5 ) + 40 ] + AF2 Legs (+20) + WHM Cat1 Bar Merits = Bar Defense Bonus.

The theoretical maximum for a 75WHM barspell including all the necessary enhancing/bar merits and rare gear (AF2+1 legs, Merciful Cape) = +126 Bardefense bonus.

A 75WHM without a Merciful Cape, AF2+1 Legs (but having NQ AF2 legs), nor Enhancing Magic Skill merits should be able to reach +120 barspell with little difficulty. I am at +121 because I have a Merciful Cape. Enhancing Skill Merits and AF2+1 legs would cap me at 126. I have too many mage jobs to waste merits for Enhancing Skill tho lol.