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  1. #141
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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by ringly
    Quote Originally Posted by Khalil
    Quote Originally Posted by Geneyus
    Check sig for why /point systems are better.
    Grats on being a fucking stupid lootwhore?
    agreed
    Cry more.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    What's the story with you getting the Ridill anyways? Explain plz.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    What's the story with you getting the Ridill anyways? Explain plz.
    I'm a stupid lootwhore who will never use it. By doing so I have made my E Penis one million times bigger than everyone else's.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    I'm expecting a funny story. No RR up in the alliance DoTs are on Faf has 10HP left, flails for some reason, wipes alliance, dies at the same time. No one else will raise them and it autosorts.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    I'm expecting a funny story. No RR up in the alliance DoTs are on Faf has 10HP left, flails for some reason, wipes alliance, dies at the same time. No one else will raise them and it autosorts.
    White Mages should of have reraise

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    This is why it would be kind of a funny story. lolwhm that didn't RR but now has a Ridill.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Call it a crazy hunch but this might be the story behind it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geneyus
    Not my fault no one else bid! We have dkp

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocl
    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    I'm expecting a funny story. No RR up in the alliance DoTs are on Faf has 10HP left, flails for some reason, wipes alliance, dies at the same time. No one else will raise them and it autosorts.
    White Mages should of have reraise
    reraise gets taken for granite all the time

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by theo
    Call it a crazy hunch but this might be the story behind it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geneyus
    Not my fault no one else bid! We have dkp
    Yeah but what's the story behind that? Why didn't anyone lot a Ridill <_<?

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    Quote Originally Posted by theo
    Call it a crazy hunch but this might be the story behind it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geneyus
    Not my fault no one else bid! We have dkp
    Yeah but what's the story behind that? Why didn't anyone lot a Ridill <_<?
    Maybe he bid an outrageous amount of points because his jobs get very little from HNM, and thus had points to spare - so many that no one else could outbid him. Why do you care? He's a fucking tool anyway, even if no one in the alliance could use the sword I'm sure that they had SOMEONE with WAR/DRK/RNG/THF/BST/SAM 50+. <_>

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    I care because there has to a bigger lul in there somewhere other than a mage only got a Ridill just being a dick abusing a points system.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Point Systems are just an attempt at writing /point systems to paper, plain and simple. We all wish we could use a /point without any unfairness. We would like to think that our leaders are capable of remembering accurately and unbiasedly everyone's contributions and therefore determine who deserves it. The problem is, people make mistakes. There's so many ways to make a mistake in loot distirbution too. Even a leader with good intentions you can trust will still sometimes misremember things or otherwise have a lapse in judgment. People don't always recognize when they're being biased; sometimes it's a totally subconscious process.

    Having said that, I think if your leader is incredibly level-headed and capable of making good, honest decisions almost all of the time a /point system is preferrable to a point system. But how many people are?

    It can be summed up like this, fewer Members getting screwed:

    good /point system > good point system > bad point system > bad /point system

    That's all there is to it.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Tell me if this is a bad points system for sky.

    Genbu Suzy Seiryu Byakko drops 10pt each.
    Points do not decrease.
    Must have a job 70+ that can use the item.
    Someone with 10 pts can lot against people with 201827 pts. (On their third sky run even, or second. Points are totaled at the end of every run. So as long as you get 10 pts+ on your first run, you can lot the next run.)

    Kirin drops are based on point priority. IE: Someone has 100 pts and someone else has 101 pts, the person with 101 will get the item.

    Basically as I see it...
    4 Gods: Freelot pretty much as long as you have a job 70+ and 10 pts.
    Kirin: Actual waiting in line for items.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Yutuyu
    It can be summed up like this, fewer Members getting screwed:

    good /point system > good point system > bad point system > bad /point system

    That's all there is to it.
    Summing up something involving so many ifs in such a manner is ridiculous.

    The only thing you accurately summarized there was that good > bad.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    What, good > bad? /shocked

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    No one point system is perfect, the best you can do is.. use a bit of common sense and try to create one that will satisfy most people's needs. A good way, is to look at which LS's are successful, and which ones are not, then take note of each LS's point system and try to connect the dots. It's also important to keep in mind, your own LS members opinions on what is a good system or not. If everyone can agree in the beginning when a system is being established, it's much easier to progress as a linkshell.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    Tell me if this is a bad points system for sky.

    Genbu Suzy Seiryu Byakko drops 10pt each.
    Points do not decrease.
    Must have a job 70+ that can use the item.
    Someone with 10 pts can lot against people with 201827 pts. (On their third sky run even, or second. Points are totaled at the end of every run. So as long as you get 10 pts+ on your first run, you can lot the next run.)

    Kirin drops are based on point priority. IE: Someone has 100 pts and someone else has 101 pts, the person with 101 will get the item.

    Basically as I see it...
    4 Gods: Freelot pretty much as long as you have a job 70+ and 10 pts.
    Kirin: Actual waiting in line for items.
    So basically for 4gods, it's freelot on all money items and freelot for anyone who is 70+equippable job for other? Seeing as how points don't decrease and all. Or would there be a "if you won $$ last time, you don't get it next time" type deal?

    Because the philosophy behind that is better than points=currency IMO.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Quote Originally Posted by Luto
    Tell me if this is a bad points system for sky.

    Genbu Suzy Seiryu Byakko drops 10pt each.
    Points do not decrease.
    Must have a job 70+ that can use the item.
    Someone with 10 pts can lot against people with 201827 pts. (On their third sky run even, or second. Points are totaled at the end of every run. So as long as you get 10 pts+ on your first run, you can lot the next run.)

    Kirin drops are based on point priority. IE: Someone has 100 pts and someone else has 101 pts, the person with 101 will get the item.

    Basically as I see it...
    4 Gods: Freelot pretty much as long as you have a job 70+ and 10 pts.
    Kirin: Actual waiting in line for items.

    The only major problem I see in that system is the Kirin drops. If points never decrease, and the high point man gets priority, you're gonna end up with that person clearing out Kirin's drops until he's capped out on em basically. There would have to be some kind of decrease at least on that part. This is all assuming of course that the "Points do not decrease" part carries down to the Kirin loot pool description as well.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Point systems are kinda lame... Although, job priorities help a lot.

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    Re: Endgame LS Rules / Points

    Points do not decrease using that system. Money items are sold and split. That's strictly gear I was talking about above.

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