Mnk Acc

[draxyl]

Arguing 5% haste over 10 acc on birds seems kind of marginal to me, by and large the birds don't live long enough to make the gains from haste evident - mathematically, yeah haste looks great...but in practice, I'm really not so sure it would be a clear cut victory for turban over ohat during tp. I still use turban because I hate the look of ohat mind you.

How you can not be already at the attack cap on colibri, and feel the need to argue for shura head is beyond me. On other merit mobs you could certainly make a case, but using colibri as the basis for comparison, the argument falls flat. Sure, str will move you further up the curve...but one missed attack negates the cumulative gains.

[VZX]

Mathematically:
10 acc vs 5% haste
say: base = x/y where x<=95% and y<=1

10acc:
(x+.05)/y
read : linear increase of .05

5% haste:
x/(y-.05)
read : exponential increase of .05

exponential increase > linear increase whenever value < 1.0

haste 5% win.. "slightly" depending on current haste setup and accuracy

[ringthree]

the increased chance to hit from Optical Hat is more than the ultra-small benefit of 5 STR or 5 Attack and lower Accuracy, if you are using meat.

I rarely find myself satisfied with meat these days, even with my loved Hedgehog Pie.
But honestly talking about these 4 gears for monk:
1) Shura Zunari-Kabuto (+5STR +5ACC -50ish HP)
2) Pahluwan Qalansuwa (+7ACC +5ATT, +something HP)
3) Optical Hat (+10ACC +10EVA)
4) Walahra Turban (+5% Haste, +30 HP)

Ok it's pretty evident how 4) is the best, but we're talking about situations when we want accuracy.
My idea is that in most situations the difference will be so little that it's probably not even worth to argue, but let me go in further details thinking about possible scenarios/situations:

* Our accuracy is decent, but not as much as we would like it to be *
In this scenario is debeatable if Shura would make a difference. We could argue about having like a 0.something % more accuracy, or 5% faster hits so more chances to land a hit. If accuracy is decent, in the end, I'd probably still stick to Walahra.

* Our accuracy needs a boost *
Walahra is out, Shura probably isn't enough.
The doubt remains between Pahluwan and Optical.
Is +3 acc on optical worth a compensation for +5 att?
They both seem like very minimal damage.
+3 acc is not going to make a noticeable difference in the end over our total damage over a certain amount of time ratio, but the same can probably be said for +5 att.
Honestly, even in this situation I would still use Qalansuwa.
I hink nowadays I would use Optical Hat only when I'm for some reason tanking in +eva gear, and I think it's more important to get that +10 eva rather than that +5% haste from Walahra for Utsusemi recast.

I was just referring to using Optical Hat over other options for WS only. If you can't use Walahra Turban for TP build with meat you should use Sushi (except rare pulls like Mamool THFs)

Absolutely disagree. If you can use meat with optical hat, but cannot with turban, then take off the attack gloves and put on noritsune kote, and still cop the turban. 5% haste > 16-20 attack.

I think you are just trying to be confrontational, because the concept is the same. Haste is more important than anything else for TP. No one was disputing this. My only argument was about what to WS in.