The mark of a true professional referee.Originally Posted by Tonko
The mark of a true professional referee.Originally Posted by Tonko
It's not even apparent if the guy who got kicked is knocked out yet so it's not like he has to step in or anything.
he was out.Originally Posted by Blarg
[quote=Firas_Gattz]what about permanent injuries? I mean, if it has a high number of deaths then im sure it will be totally banned, but from the looks of the fighting manner I'm sure there will be some permanent damage to the body. Hell, a year back, I kicked a guy in the face and til today my foot kinda feels weird. Apperently the muscles were torn or something, and weren't build back properly[/quote:2hezobuh]Originally Posted by Jyakku
I've never heard of permanent injuries in sanctioned matches. Injuries will end a fight very quickly also there are a team of doctors at every fight to insure the safety of the fighters and will call a match if they think a cut or a swollen eye will prevent a fighter from competing. Also these referees will stop the match if one fighter is not able to intelligently defend himself.
This is a sport where men in the late 40's can still compete well. The Heavyweight Champ is 46 years old. You wont see someone that old playing football or baseball. more ppl have died playing in a baseball game than in MMA.
[quote=Remy0]I've never heard of permanent injuries in sanctioned matches. Injuries will end a fight very quickly also there are a team of doctors at every fight to insure the safety of the fighters and will call a match if they think a cut or a swollen eye will prevent a fighter from competing. Also these referees will stop the match if one fighter is not able to intelligently defend himself.Originally Posted by Firas_Gattz
This is a sport where men in the late 40's can still compete well. The Heavyweight Champ is 46 years old. You wont see someone that old playing football or baseball. more ppl have died playing in a baseball game than in MMA.[/quote:3klnu892]
Damn, 46 years old...thats mighty old for such a brutal-looking sport. So, now you convinced me that MMA is safer than Soccer....I really didn't see that coming=\
the truly ironic part of MMA is that you get injured more in training than in fights. most fighters will fight 5-10 times a year, it's those training sessions leading up to those 15 minutes in the ring that lead to the injuries. i've trained with 85 year old men while stationed in korea that could beat my ass any day of the week. one of the prolific men in jiu jitsu is in his 90's and could tap just about anyone in the world out at any given time. to answer the thai boxing question from earlier...most MMA fighters train in muay thai as well. i'm planning a 3 month trip to thailand myself to train. i've been doing muay thai for about 3 years now and absolutely love it...it's amazing what a well placed leg kick will do to someone both physically and psychologically. you'll notice most of your top guys are very established muay thai kickboxers as well though, and even a few thai champions have transitioned over to MMA. their careers usually only last 'till they're in their mid-20's, so it's an easy transition to MMA where, as remy0 pointed out, you can last into your 40's and be viable.
small injuries such as cuts happen and broken bones happen occasionally but nothing more. Even broken bones rarely happen these days, with fighters smart enough to think about being able to wipe their own ass they tap out before something breaks.
I've always wondered which fighters when applying joint submissions like arm bars or key locks really try to break the arm, you can tell that several people put just enough pressure so the person being submitted knows that they are screwed and just tap. Watching Mir break Sylvias arm makes me think Mir doesn't go too lightly in his submissions.Originally Posted by Remy0
Really? Thats nuts.Originally Posted by noblemountain
A lot of the top fighters are well versed in Tai boxing. However, most of the tactics leave the user wide open to counters (High Kicks), or are reserved to clinch very close quarters fighting (Tai Knee).
Leg kicks are immensely effective, and unfortunately are extremely overlooked by a good percentage of MMA fighters. Hitting them consistently can easily turn a fight in the users favor.
People who think MMA is so barbaric that it's unwatchable need to do some reading before jumping to assumptions. Not only is it relatively safer that most other contact sports, a good percentage of the professional fighters are genuinely good people. I can't remember the last time I heard any MMA fighter in the news for domestic violence, murder, etc. A good percentage of the top guys try their best to be role models and portray the sport in a positive manner OUTSIDE of the octagon. (Matt Hughes & Rich Franklin come to mind specifically)
pfft.. I never seen Kimbo kick anyone.Originally Posted by Quixon
All this talk about muay thai reminded me of tony jaa and how his movies are sick. then i got to wondering which martial artist/actor is actually the most legit. Your choices are
A: Tony Jaa
B: Jet Li
C: Jackie Chan
D: Chow Yun Fat
E: Jean Claude Van Damme
F: Steven Siegal
I am partial to Jet Li myself. Oh, and Bruce Lee doesnt count as he is the obvious #1.
Chan > Li > Jaa. Chan is the real deal, Li is pretty good, but more 'fake', Jaa is badass, but the most fake.
pretty sure jaa is a muy thai guy, Li has flash but doesnt seem as capable, chan is an excellent fighter, Id take jaa or chan over li (in their prime of course, chan is getting old).Originally Posted by SephirothYuyX
Jason Statham is a retired kickboxer, he can hold his own quite well, segal developed his own martial arts style so Im sure he could manage things, van damme is too hollywood, Id like to believe chow yun fat could manage it but Im not sure.
Of course Lee could kick any of their asses without issue, but yeah, he is the auto number 1.
Drunken Monkey = wins.
Wasnt Jet Li like best in his nation at at 7? Performing for the president at age 10? While Jet Li's movies dont really demonstrate his capability, I would say he is closest to a true "master" then the others on the list. He just has to make the fights drawn out in script, because the real fight would last about .5 seconds.
Jet Li > Jaa > Chan (Chan used to be awesome, but probably hasnt been a master in 15 years).
yarp Jason Statham trains in MMA now too. Tony Jaa was a participant in Muay Boran, a precursor to Muay Thai that is mostly outlawed. JEt Li is a Wushu world champion, wushu is a judged sparring competition. Steven Seagal is a 7th degree black belt in Aikido and works with the SWAT team in Jefferson Parish, LA. Van Damme is a karate black belt, studied tae kwon do and muay thai and has a fairly impressive kickboxing record, but fails for studying ballet and doing that breakdance movie. Chow Yun Fat has no real martial arts background to my knowledge.Originally Posted by Sonomaa
There should be a martial arts movie where its all Jiu Jitsu, it would be hilarious to see fights with hardly any punches or kicks and the 2 fighters start rolling on the ground trying to submit the other person.