Hey SE

[shukuffxi]

Idiot says the guy who goes to dynamis-xarc as a DD PLD BUSTING OUT 250 DAMAGE WS OMFG ON NON NMS, are you serious?
Next time Mr. I don't know how to make clear points specify that you have a VERY specialized dynamis run in which you limit what you pull and fight so that your retarded combination has a prayer of working..
Troll my ass, and I can type however I want.
I know damn well what flash and provoke are and do..if you were a PLD on my dynamis runs, you would be worthless and I would replace you with a pre-patch DRG/NIN

/NIN = Not getting hit, helps keep mage MP up, and hate solid. There aren't any dangerous TP moves, so any added damage is nice, and a PLD with homam/heca/joy/justice, while not the most pimp DD ever, it's better to have him melee than just stand there recasting shadows. Tho i'd like to see if a PLD in full Heca can put out decent True Strike in Xarc?

I'm not saying /WAR is bad, but honestly these days, your melee tear through mobs so fast, and hit so hard it's ridiculous to expect a PLD/WAR turtled up to Flash/Voke and keep hate on mobs for the time they are alive. I really feel About PLD/WAR to be the dude running around Flash/Voking slept mobs, even with 30~35 Enmity on when I Flash a slept mob, it can wake up 5 seconds later, and run towards whoever slept it. Given i'm fairly new to PLD in Dynamis, but that seems kinda wtf, I think in this case it's better to /NIN and DD in most cases, including the cities, unless your setup is very different and /WAR is somehow more preferable? Again, not dissing /WAR, but in this situation, /NIN seems to come out on top for me.

[Kyreth]

Why do I have to run all the way to each individual zone just to view a single cutscene for a mission or quest? Why can't there be a commonplace that lets us view all finished missions and quests cutscenes without having to run to every single zone just to watch the entire storyline for an expansion or quests?

Zones are separate machines, on which the CS'es for that specific zone are stored. That's why.

[Priran]

Magic Cure Bonus ftw though, I never understood why WHM doesn't get this trait. It could scale up as they level just like MAB or MDB does. A WHM would cure for more than a RDM/WHM, who would then in turn cure for more than a RDM/BLM.

it's called cure potency and since WHM already has plenty of it it's clearly not the problem

[riddaraan]

Idiot says the guy who goes to dynamis-xarc as a DD PLD BUSTING OUT 250 DAMAGE WS OMFG ON NON NMS, are you serious?
Next time Mr. I don't know how to make clear points specify that you have a VERY specialized dynamis run in which you limit what you pull and fight so that your retarded combination has a prayer of working..
Troll my ass, and I can type however I want.
I know damn well what flash and provoke are and do..if you were a PLD on my dynamis runs, you would be worthless and I would replace you with a pre-patch DRG/NIN

/NIN = Not getting hit, helps keep mage MP up, and hate solid. There aren't any dangerous TP moves, so any added damage is nice, and a PLD with homam/heca/joy/justice, while not the most pimp DD ever, it's better to have him melee than just stand there recasting shadows. Tho i'd like to see if a PLD in full Heca can put out decent True Strike in Xarc?

I'm not saying /WAR is bad, but honestly these days, your melee tear through mobs so fast, and hit so hard it's ridiculous to expect a PLD/WAR turtled up to Flash/Voke and keep hate on mobs for the time they are alive. I really feel About PLD/WAR to be the dude running around Flash/Voking slept mobs, even with 30~35 Enmity on when I Flash a slept mob, it can wake up 5 seconds later, and run towards whoever slept it. Given i'm fairly new to PLD in Dynamis, but that seems kinda wtf, I think in this case it's better to /NIN and DD in most cases, including the cities, unless your setup is very different and /WAR is somehow more preferable? Again, not dissing /WAR, but in this situation, /NIN seems to come out on top for me.

Thanks for the vouch Shuk. For that, I'll let you touch my pants. :D

[Dian]

Idiot says the guy who goes to dynamis-xarc as a DD PLD BUSTING OUT 250 DAMAGE WS OMFG ON NON NMS, are you serious?
Next time Mr. I don't know how to make clear points specify that you have a VERY specialized dynamis run in which you limit what you pull and fight so that your retarded combination has a prayer of working..
Troll my ass, and I can type however I want.
I know damn well what flash and provoke are and do..if you were a PLD on my dynamis runs, you would be worthless and I would replace you with a pre-patch DRG/NIN

/NIN = Not getting hit, helps keep mage MP up, and hate solid. There aren't any dangerous TP moves, so any added damage is nice, and a PLD with homam/heca/joy/justice, while not the most pimp DD ever, it's better to have him melee than just stand there recasting shadows. Tho i'd like to see if a PLD in full Heca can put out decent True Strike in Xarc?

I'm not saying /WAR is bad, but honestly these days, your melee tear through mobs so fast, and hit so hard it's ridiculous to expect a PLD/WAR turtled up to Flash/Voke and keep hate on mobs for the time they are alive. I really feel About PLD/WAR to be the dude running around Flash/Voking slept mobs, even with 30~35 Enmity on when I Flash a slept mob, it can wake up 5 seconds later, and run towards whoever slept it. Given i'm fairly new to PLD in Dynamis, but that seems kinda wtf, I think in this case it's better to /NIN and DD in most cases, including the cities, unless your setup is very different and /WAR is somehow more preferable? Again, not dissing /WAR, but in this situation, /NIN seems to come out on top for me.

Thanks for the vouch Shuk. For that, I'll let you touch my pants. :D

I've been wanting to try /NIN in dynamis as PLD but I'm not sure if my LS would go for it.

[riddaraan]

Don't give them the choice to choose. Just sub NIN, eat Dorado Sushi, stick on Haste & Enmity blend, and show up /anon. When they see what you can do, and how you need less cure bombing (aka, Terrorize), they'll be pleasantly surprised.

Just make sure you've played around with it in a similar situational, such as Exp camps. Oh, which reminds me. Make sure you have a BRD. And haste. For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh. Anyway, that's my advice. You'll love it.

Edit
I'll post a suggested gear setup, which I don't typically use, but would use as a "starting PLD's guide to /NIN". Some things you may not have, but swap around with what you have.

Head: Valor Coronet
Neck: Harmonia's Torque/Parade Gorget (while running/resting)
Ear1: Intruder Earring
Ear2: Ethereal Earring
Hands: Homam
Body: Valor Surcoat
Ring1: Hercules'
Ring2: Sattva
Legs: Homam
Back: High Breath
Waist: Swift Belt
Feet: Homam
Sword: Joyeuse (Spam Spirits Within)
Shield: Koenig/Wivre
Ranged: Lamia Bow/Fenfen stone

My usual setup:
Head: Walmart Turban
Neck: Chivalrous Chain/Parade Gorget (while running/resting)
Ear1: Brutal Earring
Ear2: Ethereal Earring
Hands: Homam
Body: Homam (lol I sold my Haub - stupid me)
Ring1: Jaeger (-.- I'll finish ToA one day)
Ring2: Flame
Legs: Homam
Back: Cerberus Mantle
Waist: Swift Belt
Feet: Homam
Sword: Joyeuse (Spam Spirits Within)
Shield: Sentinel Shield
Ranged: Lamia Bow/Fenfen stone

I also have 4 enmity merits, so that helps score me some free enmity. Anyway, in both situations, I'd use Dorado Sushi.

[RKenshin]

We usually don't use PLDs very much in Dynamis now. <.<

At most we'll have one (outside of DL runs, where we sometimes have two for NMs), and then often we'll have none at all. We certainly don't do small pulls (Lhexh is out to MPK us all constantly ) but melees almost all of the tanking on normal mobs and it works fine. When we have a PLD the primary roll they have is getting hate on the slept mobs to keep them off mages, and tanking some of the rougher mobs if they can (IE, MNKs). But otherwise it's just not possible for a PLD to do much tanking against a bunch of melees going all out and killing at a fast pace.

[Dian]

Don't give them the choice to choose. Just sub NIN, eat Dorado Sushi, stick on Haste & Enmity blend, and show up /anon. When they see what you can do, and how you need less cure bombing (aka, Terrorize), they'll be pleasantly surprised.

Just make sure you've played around with it in a similar situational, such as Exp camps. Oh, which reminds me. Make sure you have a BRD. And haste. For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh. Anyway, that's my advice. You'll love it.

I've used PLD/NIN in exp and usually end up tanking against DDs about 65% of the time, and luckily my mages haste me. If only I could get me some homam pants.

[shukuffxi]

Idiot says the guy who goes to dynamis-xarc as a DD PLD BUSTING OUT 250 DAMAGE WS OMFG ON NON NMS, are you serious?
Next time Mr. I don't know how to make clear points specify that you have a VERY specialized dynamis run in which you limit what you pull and fight so that your retarded combination has a prayer of working..
Troll my ass, and I can type however I want.
I know damn well what flash and provoke are and do..if you were a PLD on my dynamis runs, you would be worthless and I would replace you with a pre-patch DRG/NIN

/NIN = Not getting hit, helps keep mage MP up, and hate solid. There aren't any dangerous TP moves, so any added damage is nice, and a PLD with homam/heca/joy/justice, while not the most pimp DD ever, it's better to have him melee than just stand there recasting shadows. Tho i'd like to see if a PLD in full Heca can put out decent True Strike in Xarc?

I'm not saying /WAR is bad, but honestly these days, your melee tear through mobs so fast, and hit so hard it's ridiculous to expect a PLD/WAR turtled up to Flash/Voke and keep hate on mobs for the time they are alive. I really feel About PLD/WAR to be the dude running around Flash/Voking slept mobs, even with 30~35 Enmity on when I Flash a slept mob, it can wake up 5 seconds later, and run towards whoever slept it. Given i'm fairly new to PLD in Dynamis, but that seems kinda wtf, I think in this case it's better to /NIN and DD in most cases, including the cities, unless your setup is very different and /WAR is somehow more preferable? Again, not dissing /WAR, but in this situation, /NIN seems to come out on top for me.

Thanks for the vouch Shuk. For that, I'll let you touch my pants. :D

I've been wanting to try /NIN in dynamis as PLD but I'm not sure if my LS would go for it.

I'm pretty sure this is because each LS has a sort of set way of doing things in terms of job/strategy. While they know it might be possible to do it another way, either just to be different or maybe another way is better, people prefer to keep things as is, as it's famaliar and comfortable, it's that way IRL as well. i.e: If it ain't broke, don't fix it type of mentality. I think for most things these days, people tend to more often than not just find a strategy online (read: here ), and try to stick with it, and it becomes the norm. Things like "NIN can't tank this" "you need to kite this!!!" become ingrained responses without ever trying said event in a different way, and this type of thinking isn't always good.

[BRP]

Am I an Allahtard for wishing Utsusemi was never the end all damage mitigation of the game and Defense was worth a damn? I wouldn't suggest it to be changed at this point of the game, but I wish from day one melees would have been able to hold their own with Defender and perhaps something unique to their job like Seigen like they would with Utsusemi. It annoys me that anything not Death or -aga is basically breathing time for NIN and /NIN, but it's come to the point that the game can't be flipped on it's back, so I guess it's not worth mentioning.

[Kaziel]

For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh.

Time out. Who the fuck isn't giving the tank haste? What type of retarded RDMs or WHMs are we dealing with here? Hell, even before I touched PLD, I knew to make haste onto the tank part of my refresh rotation.

[Ashira]

Don't give them the choice to choose. Just sub NIN, eat Dorado Sushi, stick on Haste & Enmity blend, and show up /anon. When they see what you can do, and how you need less cure bombing (aka, Terrorize), they'll be pleasantly surprised.

Just make sure you've played around with it in a similar situational, such as Exp camps. Oh, which reminds me. Make sure you have a BRD. And haste. For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh. Anyway, that's my advice. You'll love it.

Always have, always will, haste my tank. PLD included. So you either had stupid support or didn't bother to ask. ;P

And no, BRP, it'd be nice if DEF actually had a point in this game; I remember the days in the Dunes when DRGs and WARs and SAMs would argue who would tank because one or the other had more DEF... hehe. :D

[Zalius]

What i dont fuckin get is why every single weapon skill says x/100% when you check tp required, they have NEVER implemented a weapon skill that costs less then 100% which would largely solve a lot of utility issues

[shukuffxi]

When we have a PLD the primary roll they have is getting hate on the slept mobs to keep them off mages,...

<- Noob PLD in Dyna, but can you explain how an Eye in Xarc pops mob, the mobs are completely untouched by any member until a BRD Lullabies them. At this point, only the BRD has any hate on the slept mobs, and I proceed to Flash one, and Cure the BRD if he took any damage. 20-30 sec later the mob wakes up, and completely ignores me and goes for the BRD? I know Flash hate dissipates quickly, but a PLD with 30+ enmity on Flash, should have hate when the mob wakes up, not just be on the hate list.

Sry for derail

[riddaraan]

What i dont fuckin get is why every single weapon skill says x/100% when you check tp required, they have NEVER implemented a weapon skill that costs less then 100% which would largely solve a lot of utility issues

Huh?

[Dian]

Don't give them the choice to choose. Just sub NIN, eat Dorado Sushi, stick on Haste & Enmity blend, and show up /anon. When they see what you can do, and how you need less cure bombing (aka, Terrorize), they'll be pleasantly surprised.

Just make sure you've played around with it in a similar situational, such as Exp camps. Oh, which reminds me. Make sure you have a BRD. And haste. For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh. Anyway, that's my advice. You'll love it.

Always have, always will, haste my tank. PLD included. So you either had stupid support or didn't bother to ask. ;P

And no, BRP, it'd be nice if DEF actually had a point in this game; I remember the days in the Dunes when DRGs and WARs and SAMs would argue who would tank because one or the other had more DEF... hehe. :D

I remember when I first used PLD in the dunes back when defense actually meant something and I was all nervous about fighting pugils because they hit my WAR with screwdriver for ~200 back in the day. Then on PLD screwdriver only did like 20 DMG.

But yeah my support hastes me on pld or I bug them for it constantly, they are so used to it that they even haste me on RNG sometimes.

[BRP]

Concerning Weapon Skills, the ones with Status effects or some weird effects like MP drain or etc should be buffed to the point that they are basically spells or stronger. And every weapon skill that isn't multi-hit should increase at least like the following: 100%-1.0, 200%-2.0, 300%-3.0, even if it's a stun weapon skill or something like that.

[riddaraan]

Don't give them the choice to choose. Just sub NIN, eat Dorado Sushi, stick on Haste & Enmity blend, and show up /anon. When they see what you can do, and how you need less cure bombing (aka, Terrorize), they'll be pleasantly surprised.

Just make sure you've played around with it in a similar situational, such as Exp camps. Oh, which reminds me. Make sure you have a BRD. And haste. For some reason PLD's usually never got Haste in the past, because they got Refresh. Anyway, that's my advice. You'll love it.

Always have, always will, haste my tank. PLD included. So you either had stupid support or didn't bother to ask. ;P

And no, BRP, it'd be nice if DEF actually had a point in this game; I remember the days in the Dunes when DRGs and WARs and SAMs would argue who would tank because one or the other had more DEF... hehe. :D

:D Well, in my current LS *shamless OD plug*, my support is fucking great! But in previous LS's *cough*Unsent*cough*, that wasn't the case. Of course, if Mistress Firiel had ever thought PLDs were worth a damn...

[Zalius]

What i dont fuckin get is why every single weapon skill says x/100% when you check tp required, they have NEVER implemented a weapon skill that costs less then 100% which would largely solve a lot of utility issues

Huh?

every weaponskill, when it's highlighted, in the right or w/e (been a while since i've played) has a little bar that shows your tp and the tp% required for the weapon skill. however, all weapon skills cost 100%, so it's completely and totally fucking redundant to be seeing your tp in like 3 different locations at once, and then tell you how much tp you need when every weaponskill requires the same amount of tp

[Ashira]

:D Well, in my current LS *shamless OD plug*, my support is fucking great! But in previous LS's *cough*Unsent*cough*, that wasn't the case. Of course, if Mistress Firiel had ever thought PLDs were worth a damn...

Dude, wtf, she LEVELED PLD.. haven't you seen her running around in .. what is it she wears.. like, full Dusk or whatever? Come on, that's hot.