Ranged Attack & Crit Hits?

[happydude]

to get topic back on track, no senju/heart/any crit hit 6% weapon only affects itself and it will not affect ratk

[recuperi]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Most melees taking Ulthalam's ring give up a sniper's/woodsman, so they lose 1 acc to gain 4 att. Also, the 4 str and dex for assaults is very nice.

Many rangers who might choose Jalzahn's ring would give up a behemoth ring +1, so they lose 6 r. acc to gain 6 r. att. In assaults they would gain 6 agi, but honestly most Rngs have more than enough agi.

So, with Ulthalams you sacrifice a little accuracy for a bigger increase of attack; not a huge difference, but a net gain over all.

With Jalzahns you sacrafice a little more r. acc for an equal increase in r. att; to me that's just breaking even.

And before someone brings up snipers +1 or Toredors rings, at least on carbuncle both are still very expensive and not that common, whereas behemoth +1 is pretty cheap and I would expect most dedicated Rngs to have at least 1.

I honestly cant see why someone would get that ring just for the outside stats, given the innaccuracy(?) of slugwinder. From the first time I saw it all I was looking at was the snapshot enhancement Has anyone tested in salvage to see how much the delay reduction was on the ring?

Oh and to stay on topic, I can see SE making crit% increase from gear work for ranged attacks, but it's obvious why crit enhancements on main/sub don't work for ranged. If they wanted it to work on all attacks they would've put it somewhere that didn't make it look specific to the weapon.

[BRP]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

Yeah, it's not like there will be Assaults in WotG, right? Right?

[VZX]

I honestly cant see why someone would get that ring just for the outside stats, given the innaccuracy(?) of slugwinder.

This for TP, Behemoth +1 for barrage/Sidewinder
Good thing about this ring is you don't get -10 acc penalty while meleeing as /NIN (or maybe /WAR)

[Mellema]

THat toau mission ring only works in assualt and is still garbage

ranged attack +6 and ranged accuracy +6 in one ring slot == garbage? just wondering what your alternate for this would be.

Most melees taking Ulthalam's ring give up a sniper's/woodsman, so they lose 1 acc to gain 4 att. Also, the 4 str and dex for assaults is very nice.

Many rangers who might choose Jalzahn's ring would give up a behemoth ring +1, so they lose 6 r. acc to gain 6 r. att. In assaults they would gain 6 agi, but honestly most Rngs have more than enough agi.

So, with Ulthalams you sacrifice a little accuracy for a bigger increase of attack; not a huge difference, but a net gain over all.

With Jalzahns you sacrafice a little more r. acc for an equal increase in r. att; to me that's just breaking even.

And before someone brings up snipers +1 or Toredors rings, at least on carbuncle both are still very expensive and not that common, whereas behemoth +1 is pretty cheap and I would expect most dedicated Rngs to have at least 1.

I honestly cant see why someone would get that ring just for the outside stats, given the innaccuracy(?) of slugwinder. From the first time I saw it all I was looking at was the snapshot enhancement Has anyone tested in salvage to see how much the delay reduction was on the ring?

Oh and to stay on topic, I can see SE making crit% increase from gear work for ranged attacks, but it's obvious why crit enhancements on main/sub don't work for ranged. If they wanted it to work on all attacks they would've put it somewhere that didn't make it look specific to the weapon.

I didn't choose Jalzahns ring so can't test it, but I doubt it would be more than 2%, which is what you get from 1 merit in snapshot.

As for snapshot in general, I think it's just an insult to us. Melee can get over 50% haste between gear and spells. The most we can get is 6%, plus whatever bonus the ring gives in assaults. Also, with auto-attack, melees get the full benifit of haste, whereas we still have to manually shoot each time, so that 6% is probably never completely implemented anyway.