Vasectomy at an early age

[Kuya]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21115130/wi ... ?GT1=10514

At first i thought the guy was just an attention whore for just going to an interview, because i thought that vasectomies, and the choice to not have children wasn't something so out of place now a days. But i was surprised me when i read the comments here: http://allday.msnbc.msn.com/archive/200 ... 93201.aspx

I could not understand the comments such as "He's just being selfish by not giving back to society". Excuse me? Did i just see someone say that? How is he not giving back to society by not having children? Lets not forget that it's no longer the Midevil ages and having children is no longer an economic asset in 1st to 2nd world countries. It cost quite a bit for parents to raise children and properly support them. It's not something you should just do and expect everything to be ok, it needs a great deal of planning and emotional readiness.

I don't see why someone is selfish for not wanting to bring a child to an already overcrowded world, in fact, he's doing society a favor by not having chilren, barring the age disparity that is leaving many 1st/2nd world countries with the possibility of a small young work force that is not enough to cover for the older generation. We certainly don't need more mouths to feed, especially to parents who aren't fit for the role. I would assume the man would get praised for doing what most don't and should. Realizing he's not ready for parenthood. Though i don't agree with the extremity of the choice he's taken, it is a nice way to avoid "accidents" in the future i supose. His mind could change in the future, as it undoubtively will.

But where does a person or rather society, get off laying claim on someone's sexual organs? How is his choice with his testicles, their business? Note, that this can also apply to the abortion issue, and people's reproductory(sp?) organs suddenly being made into public business. At first i scoffed at the inteview, till i noticed society is actually still filled with people who still feel "keeping the family line alive" should exceed the well being of the possible child or even their own lives. People still seem to think that leaving offspring, in today's world is still their "duty". Why in the world do people continue to keep to this idea that you have to have children because everybody else is doing it?

And something else that shocked me while reading the comments in the blog was the fact that women actually don't have the same rights as men when it comes to planing for a childfree future. Apperently it's a woman's obligation for them to have children or something. And i lol'd at the "psychiatrist" saying he must be spiritually bankrupt.

[Alleya]

"Go forth and multiply" is a very strong theme in the bible and Christianity, it's not all that surprising that such sentiment is prevalent in a Christian dominated society. This is not a new or interesting phenomena-- A majority of Christianity, and indeed, almost all religions think it's 100% their business what you do or don't do in the bedroom. Trying to push one's ways and beliefs on other people is the M.O. of the western world in all aspects of life and it has been for thousands of years. (Edit: And it's certainly not limited to religious people, everyone does it in some way or another at some point in their life regardless)

A lot of that is probably going to change in the US once the baby boomers are too old to be taken seriously anymore and their kids start taking over, but imperialism and fundamentalism will always exist in a material society that values the status quo over individual fulfillment.

[Eaglestrike]

While I know many Mormon and Catholic families that have quite a number of kids, I've never in the years I've been going to Church/Bible Study/etc. heard that we should have big families.

I for one don't mind the idea of not having children and choosing to be safe about it. Just wish more stupid people did this.

[BerenTebogo]

Kuya is a douche <3

AND

I say more power to him really, my wife and I have made a very serious decision that we are NOT going to have kids, based on the fact that we both honestly feel neither of us would make good parents (whether it be a recessive hereditary gene one of us has that we don't want to pass on, or the fact that we're both fairly self-centered in our own little world)

The point is, some people, ALOT of people really, aren't cut out to be parents, they beat their children, they abuse their children, they are general douchebags and raise children that go around shooting up schools, parents play a HUGE roll in the person the child grows up to.

I think acknowledging that maybe, just maybe, you might be a seriously shitty father ahead of time is a VERY responsible decision, in my case, I can honestly say I would not want to have me as a father, and I think it would be hugely selfish of me to force myself on a child, so I applaud this guy for having the balls (get it?) to make this decision.

The comments are ridiculous, honestly, people who think they have the right make decisions for other people based on religion or anything else need to be shot.

[Kuya]

While I know many Mormon and Catholic families that have quite a number of kids, I've never in the years I've been going to Church/Bible Study/etc. heard that we should have big families.

I for one don't mind the idea of not having children and choosing to be safe about it. Just wish more stupid people did this.

The problem is not the whole having alot of children idea, well it is, but not in this particular topic. It's the idea that childbearing is the upmost important aspect of one's life, and anybody who rejects it is spiritually bankrupt, doesn't care about society, is selfish.

Also, Sath is a bitch. <3

[Tyche]

His decision, whatever floats his little boat. I didn't want kids (actually, my only child was planned, but our first, unplanned pregnancy, ended in miscarrriage), I had a kid, I love my kid, i'm a damn good father, and I have NEVER had a single regretful "what if i didn't..." thought. I believe that life hands you cards that you never intended to play, and it happens for a reason. I wouldn't do it (pre-30 vasectomy), and Id never suggest anyone to do it. It would certainly suck if you wanted to have kids of your own someday, but then again, adoption is wonderful. Come to think of it, there's no way at all to reverse a vasectomy? I thought there was...

[BerenTebogo]

It is reversable, and it can actually reverse itself.

[Kuya]

There is a high chance of a sucessful vasectomy reversal when done within 6 years of the surgery. Chances drop after that.

[miokomioko]

I blame the catholic church.

[Heian]

I blame not enough women allowing anal sex, its so much more efficient and safe.

[Tricen]

I was planning on getting one. Fuck kids, I can't stand them.

[Tristam]

I read through most of the posts on that link, seems like lots of people are actually supportive. Good thing, I like how some folks in this country are responsible about their ability (or lack thereof) to be a good parent.

[Correction]

He's 28, single, childless and balding.

The vasectomy at that rate is probably redundant. That guy wasn't going to have kids, anyway.

[Remyo]

I support him. we need less people in the world as it is. 6.7 billion is too crowded for me

[Silviya]

Old I know, but needs to be posted here:
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/sea/274495936.html

[Tricen]

<_< You reminded me to put some stuff up on craigslist

[Skyylya]

I'm only 24 but i'll probably have one in a couple years. Me and my fiancee want nothing to do with kids. It's got nothing to do with what kind of parents we think we'd be. We just don't want 20 years of our lives to be bogged down, we wanna enjoy each other's company and be able to travel and do what we wanna do.

[Lordesequiel]

Im 22, i have 1 kid whos 14 months old, and another on the way. Im hoping the new one will be a girl so that we have a Boy & Girl withing 2 years of each other.....

Will i get the snip afterwards? Hell YES. I <3 my little boy, and i will <3 his little bro or sis but i only ever wanted 2 kids. If i carried on i could have 6 kids by the time im 30. No thanks lol *snip*.

[levish]

Pretty much every countries government encourages population growth and goes into a panic if it doesn't. you'll see all sorts of propaganda to advocate having kids and discouraging abortions if it comes down to that.

Well, except the thoroughly overcrowded countries.

[Not Kuno]

Pretty much every countries government encourages population growth and goes into a panic if it doesn't. you'll see all sorts of propaganda to advocate having kids and discouraging abortions if it comes down to that.

Well, except the thoroughly overcrowded countries.

Yup. I think most countries are on the decline/borderline except for Africa which has the biggest growth. <.<