Vasectomy at an early age

[Jujubie]

Im 22, i have 1 kid whos 14 months old, and another on the way. Im hoping the new one will be a girl so that we have a Boy & Girl withing 2 years of each other.....

Will i get the snip afterwards? Hell YES. I <3 my little boy, and i will <3 his little bro or sis but i only ever wanted 2 kids. If i carried on i could have 6 kids by the time im 30. No thanks lol *snip*.

My cousin in law did this. He got divorced from his first wife, his kids are now 15 and 13, and my cousin is about 8 years younger than him. They met, fell in love, got married and now he wants to have a child with her. He had a vasectomy about 10 years ago. They now have to do AI (artificial insem) or have him go in for a reversal (which isn't guaranteed to work) for them to have a child.

If it was easily reverseable, i'd say go for it, but to make that decision young--you could always change your mind in 10 years. If something horrible happened and you lost your children, maybe you and your wife would decide to have more?

You think with modern medicine, they could come up with a pill or an IUD type device for men.

[Alleya]

Pretty much every countries government encourages population growth and goes into a panic if it doesn't. you'll see all sorts of propaganda to advocate having kids and discouraging abortions if it comes down to that.

Well, except the thoroughly overcrowded countries.

Yup. I think most countries are on the decline/borderline except for Africa which has the biggest growth. <.<

Statistically, birth rates go down as wealth and education goes up. The poorest areas of the world are exploding in population while most of the wealthy world is barely breaking even, and falling in a lot of really rich places like Denmark/Luxembourg. So yeah, africa, the middle east, china (despite the laws), other parts of asia, etc.

You can even see it in smaller systems, women who don't go to college have more kids than women who do.

[Venture]

My mother would kill me...family pressure, whoo!

[Fhqwghads]

I had a vasectomy when I was around 32. Fuck what society wants. A kid is something *I* don't want. I'm a selfish person, and the last thing I want to do is have what little time I get after work and on weekends siphoned away by a child. I recognize that I wouldn't be a good parent. I didn't regret my decision then, and I don't regret it now, and I can't see myself regretting it in the foreseeable future, either. As a couple of other people said, there's enough people in the world. And there's still plenty of fucking morons who pop out 4 or more kids despite the fact that we don't need more people on the planet. Now that, imo, is selfish.

[Kuya]

I read through most of the posts on that link, seems like lots of people are actually supportive. Good thing, I like how some folks in this country are responsible about their ability (or lack thereof) to be a good parent.

Well, i was being reactionery and decided to post, once i read the comments that bothered me. Though a blog is not the most accurate place to judge the public opinions of a country. I'm pretty sure most people wouldn't criticize, as some did on the blog, the guy's decision, but a large amount people (and i'm making assumptions here based on my own personal observations) do seem to treat child bearing as some sort of civic duty.

I'm a little more concerned with the fact that women don't have the same rights in these procedures as men. That is still quite a problem.

[Tristam]

I'm a little more concerned with the fact that women don't have the same rights in these procedures as men. That is still quite a problem.

I agree, but I know so little on the subject I'd be afraid to comment on it. Though my GF (very long term) says she dosen't want kids, (and we're in our late 20's) so maybe the issue will come up sometime. We're getting drinks tonight, maybe I'll ask her if she knows anything about this sort of stuff.

[finale23]

man - potency = 1/2 man, 'nuff said

[Shalyn]

I think the problem these people have is that our roots are based in a society that depended on reproduction. It was the only way to allow your family name to live on, and obviously there were many more reasons for it (socially, politically, religiously). Today and in our 'free' countries, it's not so necessary, and we aren't threatened enough to think that our genes need to live on in order to combat some kind of 'infectant' race. Not that I think that's what these people consciously think... I think it's more like "You're living in our society, and in normal households, you are to get married and have children.. or at least the latter". By choosing to not have a child, he is, in their minds, choosing to disassociate himself from their way of life and, thus, their particular society. I guess if you look at it like that, it's a kind of slap in the face. To me, though, I hope he at least adopts a lot of kitties to fill his 'bankrupt' spirit XD

[Amele]

man - potency = 1/2 man, 'nuff said

what are you, from the 6th century? do they still rape and pillage where you come from?

[MisterBob]

You think with modern medicine, they could come up with a pill or an IUD type device for men.

Pill is already in development for men. Paralyzes the muscle that causes ejaculation.
I'd worry about it kinda ruining the orgasm, though

[Beckwin]

I think Mr. Byrum's decision is a testament to the selfishness of many people in today's society.

Marnie, Salt Lake City, Utah (Sent Wednesday, October 03, 2007 10:22 AM)

lolmormons

[finale23]

man - potency = 1/2 man, 'nuff said

what are you, from the 6th century? do they still rape and pillage where you come from?

it's a family guy reference. woosh~

[Amastacia]

Meh, my parents were amazing when I was growing up (never abused, never beaten, none of that crap, they were always there for me, etc.), best way I can show them I appreciated it is raise kids of my own and be as good to them as my parents were to me.

Plus, there are plenty of stupid people in this world and they don't seem to have any trouble multiplying (probably far more than they should), might as well give smart people a fighting chance. If I cause a couple kids with IQ above room temperature to be born, I figure I'm doin' the human race and the proper course of evolution a favor.

[Kytele]

I had a vasectomy when I was around 32. Fuck what society wants. A kid is something *I* don't want. I'm a selfish person, and the last thing I want to do is have what little time I get after work and on weekends siphoned away by a child. I recognize that I wouldn't be a good parent. I didn't regret my decision then, and I don't regret it now, and I can't see myself regretting it in the foreseeable future, either. As a couple of other people said, there's enough people in the world. And there's still plenty of fucking morons who pop out 4 or more kids despite the fact that we don't need more people on the planet. Now that, imo, is selfish.

Since I was about 12 years old I decided I never wanted to have children for the same exact reasons. I don't want to bog down my life because I had squeezed one out. Everyone in my family, my friends, thought that I was going through some phase then and I'd change my mind when I got older.

I'm 23 now and I still get the "Well you never know what will happen in the future" speech. Fuck you, yes I do and it involves me not having kids.

I'm perfectly content spoiling my sister's future kids. I imagine a scenario where my sister finds out I've called her kids out of school and calls me to find out I'VE TAKEN THEM TO DISNEYLAND! YAAAAY!

Then I can dump them off back at their mom's and be done with it.

The hard part is being in a relationship not sharing my exact sentiment.

[Tyche]

Unless you are under employment that has you travel constantly, or you move around a lot, I really don't see how a kid can "bog" you down. If you are living a lifestyle that may be detrimental to raising a child in some way, fine, thats understandable, but it really takes an extreme lifestyle that will not allow for children. Do you have to make lifestyle adjustments? Absolutely. Do you have to completely change the way you live your life? Not in the least bit. I work full time, go to school, still go out and have drinks, skydive, and travel. Luckily, my wifey is a wonderful mommy and quite understanding to my goals (well, except skydiving/BASE).

[Kytele]

I mean bog in the sense of looking after someone not myself or the person I'm with (if I am).

It's selfish and quite a self centered thing to say really but in my heart of hearts I somehow think I could not be the best parent I could be for a child I'd have. It just boils down to getting more responsibility that I really don't want.

My second job is a Sunday school TA and I love the kids there and they love us... but it's once a week and when they get mad or bratty all I have to do is wait a couple of hours for their parents (whoops) to take them home.

[Tyche]

I had law school, dreams, goals, and never envisioned myself as a parent pre-30. It's amazing what a great mate can do for you. I could never imagine having a child by myself, or with a partner that is half as good as the one I have now. I have an ungodly amount of respect for single parents. I only have one kid, I can't imagine having 2 or 3, and being the only parent. Mommy makes life so much easier for me. If you didn't have the utmost confidence in you or your partners ability to raise a child, I wouldn't do it.

[Andarvi]

You think with modern medicine, they could come up with a pill or an IUD type device for men.

Pill is already in development for men. Paralyzes the muscle that causes ejaculation.
I'd worry about it kinda ruining the orgasm, though

Dont worry, it doesnt alter your orgasm in the slightest. A vasectomy is simply the clipping of the vas deferens, cutting off the sperm from your ejaculate. You still ejaculate, still orgasm fine, you just have no sperm present.

[Nirokun!]

i used to think i'd never want kids, but i guess as i got older and wanted more out of life and came to be a warmer person overall, i thought about it. I still think about it, i've got names, we're gonna be dad and daddy, but i cant figure out what to do about HAVING the actual baby.

Adoption? I dont really want to adopt (sorry you boy/girl population experts), but i want to make one. But without a woman.. thats difficult lol. So i think about him having one, and me having one, and raising them. Then i think about taking a mixed batch of our sperm and going with that, so we dont know who it belongs to, but idk if i'll be dating someone my same race (filipino/irish people out there, loads of them *cough*). So then im thinking about adoption...

I havent quite figured it out ;P

[Tyche]

Paper, rock, scissor (me timbers) for who gets to inseminate.