Almighty Apkallu

[Kaylia]

All this speculation over 1 stupid little bird. It really is exciting in my opinion, not knowing something and trying to figure it out. Like this NM. In my opinion, square enix should make more NM's like this, more mystery to the game. It's fun. Infact, they should make like, 1 king of all mysterious NM's, make it really super hard to kill, to where no one knows to how kill it and everyone think's it's really tough, when infact it's stupidly easy to kill, but people aren't sure how to unlock it. Then one day people could figure it out and find out it's easier to farm than Kirin, that there was just a trick too it. But knowing the FFXI player base, all people would do is whine and ask for it to be nerfed. They wouldn't try far out idea's because everyone in this game is a fucking conformist anymore. Well, at least nothing like that is in the game, it could cause some serious problems.

Anyways... Has anyone thought this might be a NPC for a quest not yet added? Or a quest we haven't figured out? This could very possibly be a NPC and not a monster at all. But if it is a Monster the more i think about it, I agree with the post above. It must be like Taisaijin or Rose Garden.

All I can remember is spending 100hours trying to figure how to pop a certain Goblin, thinking Square enix wasn't dumb enough to make something virtually impossible to pop. Guess I was wrong, recipe did require 8 items and was impossible to find randomly (well, unless you win 10m at lotto every 2 weeks).

It's very unlikely AA is a npc for many reasons. First one is that everything they add in update is used immediatly, with the exception of event (usually come within 1-2 months), delayed event (prankration, chocobo raising, einherjar...) and stuff that came with the game years ago . I seriously cant think of anything that was added 1 years and 3 months after being addded to the .dat. There is also 2 items from that update that are left unnacounted, and there isn't many thing place left uneplored that were added in that update.

[Lujei]

All this speculation over 1 stupid little bird. It really is exciting in my opinion, not knowing something and trying to figure it out. Like this NM. In my opinion, square enix should make more NM's like this, more mystery to the game. It's fun. Infact, they should make like, 1 king of all mysterious NM's, make it really super hard to kill, to where no one knows to how kill it and everyone think's it's really tough, when infact it's stupidly easy to kill, but people aren't sure how to unlock it. Then one day people could figure it out and find out it's easier to farm than Kirin, that there was just a trick too it. But knowing the FFXI player base, all people would do is whine and ask for it to be nerfed. They wouldn't try far out idea's because everyone in this game is a fucking conformist anymore. Well, at least nothing like that is in the game, it could cause some serious problems.

Dark Rider?

[Knightmare]

All this speculation over 1 stupid little bird. It really is exciting in my opinion, not knowing something and trying to figure it out. Like this NM. In my opinion, square enix should make more NM's like this, more mystery to the game. It's fun. Infact, they should make like, 1 king of all mysterious NM's, make it really super hard to kill, to where no one knows to how kill it and everyone think's it's really tough, when infact it's stupidly easy to kill, but people aren't sure how to unlock it. Then one day people could figure it out and find out it's easier to farm than Kirin, that there was just a trick too it. But knowing the FFXI player base, all people would do is whine and ask for it to be nerfed. They wouldn't try far out idea's because everyone in this game is a fucking conformist anymore. Well, at least nothing like that is in the game, it could cause some serious problems.

Dark Rider?

I hope you were joking because I'm sure he meant AV.

[Luto]

What's AV?

[Lujei]

I hope you were joking because I'm sure he meant AV.

No shit.

[Epical]

I used ArtMoney (http://www.artmoney.ru/) to check memory and see if it had popped at least once since maintenance. Apparently it's popped at least once in the last week on Bismarck, but not on Unicorn (these are the only servers I can check). This pretty much rules out the possibility that it's a timed spawn. My guess is that it's fished up somehow, or it works like Taisaijin/Rose Garden.

Can you give a quick walkthrough on how it was you did this?

[Pergo]

I used ArtMoney (http://www.artmoney.ru/) to check memory and see if it had popped at least once since maintenance. Apparently it's popped at least once in the last week on Bismarck, but not on Unicorn (these are the only servers I can check). This pretty much rules out the possibility that it's a timed spawn. My guess is that it's fished up somehow, or it works like Taisaijin/Rose Garden.

Can you give a quick walkthrough on how it was you did this?

NPCtool can do this. (its a program that usually came with argus that shows you the status of every npc/mob in a zone since the maintainance). I still have this program, but I haven't used it in like a year and a half... Does anyone know how to get the ffxi memloc/offsets? We could check its status if we had this.

[Saraphym]

wouldn't using that method prove that its an NM and not a NPC 100%?

so can toss npc theory out the window.

[KimimaroKun]

sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the ebon panel.

you sound like an idiot saying that people refuse to test different theories on AV. It's been tested to hell and back, and every time someone found something that worked, SE patched it and made it not work. everyone is a conformist? if your idea of nonconforming means you regurgitate the same fucking stupid theories that have been tried over and over and get sore in the ass when someone calls you fucking retarded, then we'd all be better off if people conformed.

You are talking to some one who has made, TESTED, and tried, discussed, and downright defused as many AV theories as he possibly could. I'm just as frustrated as anyone is at it. But do you HONESTLY think SE added a completely broken Mob that drops some amazing equipment yet can NOT be killed? There is a way to do it. They said so their own fucking self. We just haven't figured it out. Now, we might not, and they might eventually have to show us. But i know when people try hard to figure something out for a long time, the best thing to do is take a step back, to where it all started, and come up with new theories that you never even thought of. Everyone's theories on killing it sounds so much the same, they are all rehashed versions of eachother. But i'm not talking just about AV. I'm talking about Almighty, Dark Rider, etc. Although Dark Rider could very well be there just to set the footprint for the rank up quests and is meant to kick your ass. But AV actually has confirmed drops, and square enix said that knowing this trick they beat it with a team of 18 of them.

Every time some one found something that worked they patched it? They patched the damn thing once. All people did was figure out the wall of justice. And square enix said "NO! yer doin it wrong". Like i say, there's a way to beat it, we just need to take a big step back and think more radically.

Ohh and, calling people names like "Retard" and "Fucking idiot" makes you look like a retarded fucking idiot. And last time I checked, conforming meant doing the same thing everyone else was doing. By NOT conforming you are trying new things that have not been tried before. I was more so agreeing with what it looks like your opinion is. But you were to angry to see that for some reason.

But that's enough about AV, I won't derail this thread. Most of what i said applies to almight apkallu as well.

[Pergo]

wouldn't using that method prove that its an NM and not a NPC 100%?

so can toss npc theory out the window.

monsters and npcs are listed as the same, it shows both.

[Saraphym]

wouldn't using that method prove that its an NM and not a NPC 100%?

so can toss npc theory out the window.

monsters and npcs are listed as the same, it shows both.

right, but according to Mokou it popped on bismarck and not unicorn?...

I used ArtMoney (http://www.artmoney.ru/) to check memory and see if it had popped at least once since maintenance. Apparently it's popped at least once in the last week on Bismarck, but not on Unicorn (these are the only servers I can check). This pretty much rules out the possibility that it's a timed spawn. My guess is that it's fished up somehow, or it works like Taisaijin/Rose Garden.

[Kaylia]

Is it possible to know if it was killed or just popped?

[Pergo]

i think artmoney is a program used to find the offsets...

and npc tool shows the % hp that mobs/npc are at.
if you run it and Almighty Apkallu doesn't show up, that means it hasn't popped since last maintainance.
if you run it and it says "100% Almighty Apkallu", that means it's either up, or was up at one time but despawned.
if you run it and it says "0% Almighty Apkallu", that means it was up and it was killed.

[soichiro]

How proven is this theory that AA pops on the boat?

I'm chillin at Mount Zhayolm doing Get the Picture quest looking at all these King Apkallus. No one ever attacks them, their VT and link. Could these be PHs? jw

[Loziel]

All this speculation over 1 stupid little bird. It really is exciting in my opinion, not knowing something and trying to figure it out. Like this NM. In my opinion, square enix should make more NM's like this, more mystery to the game. It's fun. Infact, they should make like, 1 king of all mysterious NM's, make it really super hard to kill, to where no one knows to how kill it and everyone think's it's really tough, when infact it's stupidly easy to kill, but people aren't sure how to unlock it. Then one day people could figure it out and find out it's easier to farm than Kirin, that there was just a trick too it. But knowing the FFXI player base, all people would do is whine and ask for it to be nerfed. They wouldn't try far out idea's because everyone in this game is a fucking conformist anymore. Well, at least nothing like that is in the game, it could cause some serious problems.

I see what you did there, lol

[Luto]

Hi I'm going to completely ignore the rest of the thread and not acknowledge that AA is in the dats for the Nashmau > AU ferry.

[Demosthenes11]

sounds like someone woke up on the wrong side of the ebon panel.

you sound like an idiot saying that people refuse to test different theories on AV. It's been tested to hell and back, and every time someone found something that worked, SE patched it and made it not work. everyone is a conformist? if your idea of nonconforming means you regurgitate the same fucking stupid theories that have been tried over and over and get sore in the ass when someone calls you fucking retarded, then we'd all be better off if people conformed.

You are talking to some one who has made, TESTED, and tried, discussed, and downright defused as many AV theories as he possibly could. I'm just as frustrated as anyone is at it. But do you HONESTLY think SE added a completely broken Mob that drops some amazing equipment yet can NOT be killed? There is a way to do it. They said so their own fucking self. We just haven't figured it out. Now, we might not, and they might eventually have to show us. But i know when people try hard to figure something out for a long time, the best thing to do is take a step back, to where it all started, and come up with new theories that you never even thought of. Everyone's theories on killing it sounds so much the same, they are all rehashed versions of eachother. But i'm not talking just about AV. I'm talking about Almighty, Dark Rider, etc. Although Dark Rider could very well be there just to set the footprint for the rank up quests and is meant to kick your ass. But AV actually has confirmed drops, and square enix said that knowing this trick they beat it with a team of 18 of them.

Every time some one found something that worked they patched it? They patched the damn thing once. All people did was figure out the wall of justice. And square enix said "NO! yer doin it wrong". Like i say, there's a way to beat it, we just need to take a big step back and think more radically.

Ohh and, calling people names like "Retard" and "Fucking idiot" makes you look like a retarded fucking idiot. And last time I checked, conforming meant doing the same thing everyone else was doing. By NOT conforming you are trying new things that have not been tried before. I was more so agreeing with what it looks like your opinion is. But you were to angry to see that for some reason.

But that's enough about AV, I won't derail this thread. Most of what i said applies to almight apkallu as well.

All the "new" theories you speak of always involve the absence of something very important...common fucking sense. "Hay, wut if you use the sin weapons while SCing with drg cuz AV is drg and then bursting with dia cuz sea is like light lol."

Please, stop talking

[Khamsin]

Anyways... Has anyone thought this might be a NPC for a quest not yet added? Or a quest we haven't figured out? This could very possibly be a NPC and not a monster at all. But if it is a Monster the more i think about it, I agree with the post above. It must be like Taisaijin or Rose Garden.

npc would be plausible, but would not explain the drops that seem to fit all too well. I double and triple checked all quests and npcs in nashmau and aht'urhgan. and I really doubt its an npc like rose garden.... i really do believe that they left that concept back with cop.

Rose Garden wasn't an NPC.

[KimimaroKun]

All the "new" theories you speak of always involve the absence of something very important...common fucking sense. "Hay, wut if you use the sin weapons while SCing with drg cuz AV is drg and then bursting with dia cuz sea is like light lol."

Please, stop talking

Is that what i said? No, those theories are about equally as stupid as most that have been disproven. Infact i'm not sure what exact thesis to go on. I'm just saying sense we OBVIOUSLY don't know how to do it yet, who's to say what it "Could" be. So stop putting words in my mouth and i'll stop talking, dipshit. Seriously, think before you post, and think with your brain, not your E-peen.

[Pergo]

sorry, meant mob