Almighty Apkallu

[yrpaine]

No info on how, but AA has popped on Midgard since last maintenance (like 5 days ago).
Seems to have depopped at full health so either nobody saw it or it killed them.

The regular Apkallu #7 hadn't popped.

We lost the candy shortly before the maintenance (maybe a few days? I don't remember) so maybe it's related to a low level besieged - like, spawns during level 4 Besieged or something. (Long shot...)

If it was linked with beseiged, wouldn't it be in the .dat for it in Al Zahbi? or have we found exceptions to that being the case?

This seems make the most sense though out of everything, we have almost no power to trigger a low level beseiged, and it would explain a lot.

1 big question which I think could clear a lot of this up: What was the highest level beseiged avail when this NM came out? This may be our answer

[fantasticdan]

If it was linked with beseiged, wouldn't it be in the .dat for it in Al Zahbi?

No.

If all of it's pops are after server maint, I think it's more likely it's like noble mold/rose garden/tasaijin/etc. IE: Window open when placeholders haven't been killed for a long time. Might relate to apkallu on both boats not being killed.

[Spekkio]

no, it would not be in the dat file for al zhabi, since it does not spawn there. you can look for the trance belt brothers (i'm blanking on their name, like all troll and orc NMs with their CGF keyboard+face smash random letter generator names) but you'll only find them in mt. z b/c that's where they actually pop. to answer your second question, i can only wager a guess, but since 3 was the base besieged level i think, and AA was added later on in the cycle, about 4 or 5ish sounds right.

[yrpaine]

ok, i was just tryin to think of any nm's that were triggered during besieged that didn't appear in besieged and I couldn't think of any off hand. If that troll is an example, then I think it would be reasonable to think this bird appears during lvl 1-5 besieged(depending on the cap when it came out, either troll or undead). Since by the example given above, the thing popped on a world that had recently lost a besieged, and it obviously doesn't appear with lvl 8.

[Mokou]

Well, when it popped on Bismarck, there hadn't been a Besieged lower than level 8 for about a month.

[Silenus]

They really went out of their way to make apkallus cute, funny acting, and non-threatening.

The first one I killed made me feel bad I attacked it.

Thought about that "no apkallu killing on the boat(s)" possible pop condition, and it seems right to me.

Maybe I can corner somebody at the fan fest and strangle a few answers out of 'em.

[Gulkeeva]

They really went out of their way to make apkallus cute, funny acting, and non-threatening.

The first one I killed made me feel bad I attacked it.

Thought about that "no apkallu killing on the boat(s)" possible pop condition, and it seems right to me.

Maybe I can corner somebody at the fan fest and strangle a few answers out of 'em.

The beady little eyes makes me want to kill them.. repedidly ;/

[Kaylia]

Counter argument about the "Rose Garden" pop condition is that if it did pop, it would still be up or dead by now. However, we know it depopped since it wasn't killed. It's hard to imagine it would pop after X amounts of hours, then depop after a single ride.


If "during besieged" was another condition, it would have popped on every server, since there is many attacks every days

No info on how, but AA has popped on Midgard since last maintenance (like 5 days ago).
Seems to have depopped at full health so either nobody saw it or it killed them.

Could you take the ship again and check if it's still up and the spawn location? Would be interesting to see if someone popped it, and where it pop on the ship.

[Reality]

repedidly

QFT

;)

[Geostigma]

No info on how, but AA has popped on Midgard since last maintenance (like 5 days ago).
Seems to have depopped at full health so either nobody saw it or it killed them.

The regular Apkallu #7 hadn't popped.

We lost the candy shortly before the maintenance (maybe a few days? I don't remember) so maybe it's related to a low level besieged - like, spawns during level 4 Besieged or something. (Long shot...)

Gah I rode the boat a few times for fun in the last few days and didn't see it. I knew I should have camped it more.

[fantasticdan]

Counter argument about the "Rose Garden" pop condition is that if it did pop, it would still be up or dead by now. However, we know it depopped since it wasn't killed. It's hard to imagine it would pop after X amounts of hours, then depop after a single ride.

Uhm who says that it couldn't depop after/during the boat ride, or after certain weather in addition to a rose garder pop condition? And even if it did stay up, what if killing apkallu on the other boat forces it to depop?

[Khamsin]

Counter argument about the "Rose Garden" pop condition is that if it did pop, it would still be up or dead by now. However, we know it depopped since it wasn't killed. It's hard to imagine it would pop after X amounts of hours, then depop after a single ride.

Uhm who says that it couldn't depop after/during the boat ride, or after certain weather in addition to a rose garder pop condition? And even if it did stay up, what if killing apkallu on the other boat forces it to depop?

I can't really say anything about the other ideas, but I doubt AA is influenced by actions on the other boat. No other mob in the game is influenced by actions performed in another zone (think ebon panels), and I'm not even sure it's something that would have been practical for SE to implement.

(The exceptions being flagged quests, etc. but that's not quite the same)

[riddaraan]

The next time we get to do Ballista Royale, I'll go check to see if its up on the boat!

Oh wait...

[Khamsin]

The next time we get to do Ballista Royale, I'll go check to see if its up on the boat!

Oh wait...

Next time you're caught on Atomos, ask the GM to take you to see Almighty Apkallu before he bans you from the server.

[riddaraan]

The next time we get to do Ballista Royale, I'll go check to see if its up on the boat!

Oh wait...

Next time you're caught on Atomos, ask the GM to take you to see Almighty Apkallu before he bans you from the server.

I see a direction I could take this, but I'm not up for facing Sonomaa the B&inator.

[fantasticdan]

No other mob in the game is influenced by actions performed in another zone (think ebon panels), and I'm not even sure it's something that would have been practical for SE to implement.

The three nms that drop trance belt only spawn in mount zhayolm when the trolls are advancing, and DEPOP when besieged ends. I understand that's not the same thing as a single player killing an apkallu and depopping AA, but it's not that far off.

Still, I think it's more likely he depops on his own after or during the boat ride, even if he is spawned by apkallu on both boats not being killed.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Maybe if a BST charms one of the PH Apkallus and uses Familiar with Birdman's cape on, it'll turn into AA and aggro him?

[Charismatic]

Maybe if a BST charms one of the PH Apkallus and uses Familiar with Birdman's cape on, it'll turn into AA and aggro him?

Obviously this is a joke, but you'd have to have a Birdman's cape in order to do that, and no one knows where to get the cape at this point.

[Demosthenes11]

Maybe if a BST charms one of the PH Apkallus and uses Familiar with Birdman's cape on, it'll turn into AA and aggro him?

worst attempt at humoUr ever

[Kaylia]

No other mob in the game is influenced by actions performed in another zone (think ebon panels), and I'm not even sure it's something that would have been practical for SE to implement.

The three nms that drop trance belt only spawn in mount zhayolm when the trolls are advancing, and DEPOP when besieged ends. I understand that's not the same thing as a single player killing an apkallu and depopping AA, but it's not that far off.

Still, I think it's more likely he depops on his own after or during the boat ride, even if he is spawned by apkallu on both boats not being killed.

Besieged is a world wide event and not linked to any zone. Every player everywhere are warned when the troll are marching. As it is, SE doesnt seem to have any simple method to send that kind of informations between area and it's very unlikely they programmed something like this for the NM.