Almighty Apkallu

[Yomjo]

I thought I heard somewhere that hate resets over (a relatively quick) period of time?

[Khamsin]

I thought I heard somewhere that hate resets over (a relatively quick) period of time?

It does, that's why you would have to set your HP in Nashmau and warp back from killing apkallus just as the ferry is getting ready to leave to be able to make it onto the boat still with max hate. Likewise, if you're in a merit PT on Apkallus, just take a 5 min break whenever damage gets too low and you're back to normal.

[Pergo]

OK, after reading that it sounds like killing til you get max hate would incur the wrath of Almighty Apkallu and he'll gang rape your ass for killing his peeps. Make a party, kill til you have max hate, ride the ship til it pops. Make sure everyone subs /NIN and have a RDM or WHM prepared to tank this thing.

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I already said this like a page back... we killed til were hitting for 0, warped to nashmau, took about 8 min til we loaded on the boat. the early apkallu popped... melee were hitting for 100 (normal dmg), he didn't aggro magic, and he used yawn twice before he died. nothing happened. i highly doubt that it would require you to get on the boat any faster than that.

[Katlan]

It does, that's why you would have to set your HP in Nashmau and warp back from killing apkallus just as the ferry is getting ready to leave to be able to make it onto the boat still with max hate. Likewise, if you're in a merit PT on Apkallus, just take a 5 min break whenever damage gets too low and you're back to normal.

That's why it makes no sense for AA to require high hate (or any hate at all). since AA is essentially a random pop from the apkallu's that jump up onto the boat from Nash > Whitegate route, then it would need to be the first spawn and be immediately as the boat takes off.. /not gonna happen

edit: spelling errors -_-;

[BRP]

There is always the potential that is works not too unlike Rapido. Perhaps it links with an Apkallu and you need to kite it around the ship for it to hop on and attack you? Btw, this has no fact behind it, just throwing a random idea out there.

[Pergo]

There is always the potential that is works not too unlike Rapido. Perhaps it links with an Apkallu and you need to kite it around the ship for it to hop on and attack you? Btw, this has no fact behind it, just throwing a random idea out there.

i've been wanting to try this, but the early apkallu hasn't popped the last 11 times i've taken the boat.... there's also some truth that apkallu hate seems to build up not based off of kills, but rather time spent killing them. on the last apkallu i fought while "capping" hate, the melee started off hitting for 3-4, and by the time it was 40%, they were doing a constant 0. maybe the one on the boat builds hate quickly and if you hold the early one for a long time, you'll "max hate"

[HAcoreRD]

There is always the potential that is works not too unlike Rapido. Perhaps it links with an Apkallu and you need to kite it around the ship for it to hop on and attack you? Btw, this has no fact behind it, just throwing a random idea out there.

Good thought.

"Almighty" could be an ego think. Maybe early birdy needs to do "X" amount of damage or WS' until it depops and repops as the 'Almighty'?

[Khamsin]

There is always the potential that is works not too unlike Rapido. Perhaps it links with an Apkallu and you need to kite it around the ship for it to hop on and attack you? Btw, this has no fact behind it, just throwing a random idea out there.

Good thought.

"Almighty" could be an ego think. Maybe early birdy needs to do "X" amount of damage or WS' until it depops and repops as the 'Almighty'?

SSJ Apkallu?

[Yomjo]

OK, after reading that it sounds like killing til you get max hate would incur the wrath of Almighty Apkallu and he'll gang rape your ass for killing his peeps. Make a party, kill til you have max hate, ride the ship til it pops. Make sure everyone subs /NIN and have a RDM or WHM prepared to tank this thing.

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I already said this like a page back... we killed til were hitting for 0, warped to nashmau, took about 8 min til we loaded on the boat. the early apkallu popped... melee were hitting for 100 (normal dmg), he didn't aggro magic, and he used yawn twice before he died. nothing happened. i highly doubt that it would require you to get on the boat any faster than that.

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Not to sound like a dick but the ... isn't necessary considering your tests weren't that extensive. Did you consider that it's possible that even if the Mt Z Apkallu hate isn't linked to the ferry but the Reef Apkallu are? Maybe you need max hate there. I don't know. I'm throwing out ideas, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna be berated for not reading every single post on this website when I'm just throwing out ideas.

[Pergo]

OK, after reading that it sounds like killing til you get max hate would incur the wrath of Almighty Apkallu and he'll gang rape your ass for killing his peeps. Make a party, kill til you have max hate, ride the ship til it pops. Make sure everyone subs /NIN and have a RDM or WHM prepared to tank this thing.

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I already said this like a page back... we killed til were hitting for 0, warped to nashmau, took about 8 min til we loaded on the boat. the early apkallu popped... melee were hitting for 100 (normal dmg), he didn't aggro magic, and he used yawn twice before he died. nothing happened. i highly doubt that it would require you to get on the boat any faster than that.

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Not to sound like a dick but the ... isn't necessary considering your tests weren't that extensive. Did you consider that it's possible that even if the Mt Z Apkallu hate isn't linked to the ferry but the Reef Apkallu are? Maybe you need max hate there. I don't know. I'm throwing out ideas, and I'll be damned if I'm gonna be berated for not reading every single post on this website when I'm just throwing out ideas.

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and did you read even a few more pages back when i said i had max arrapago hate and got on the ship?

[Yomjo]

extensive testing, etc.

Hopping on the ship one time isn't grounds for disqualifying the idea, but kudos for at least attempting it.

[Pergo]

finally, after 5 more rides I got the early apkallu. claimed, ran around the boat, covered the whole boat, nothing. dia spammed it to give tp, stayed engaged hitting it with h2h (as blm), nothing. got down to red health several times, nothing. we were about to dock in al'zahbi so i killed it, nothing.

i know people have fished , is there any lure/bait out there that would seem to work for apkallu... maybe if not for catching them, but at least like based off of apkallu, maybe in its description or something?

[Spekkio]

if i had to conjecture, since they have an affinity for fish, it would be some kind of fish product. i'm not versed on what fish they munch on, but if you want to try fishing and they eat cod, try sliced cod? i'm suspect of this theory, only b/c all of the other apkallu flop onto the boat, none of them can be caught w/ a rod and a lure.

[Arnwulf]

The NM that drops Gargoyle Boots jumps up onto the boat in Carpenter's Landing randomly if I recall correctly. Maybe people just haven't been on it at the right time.

[Katlan]

extensive testing, etc.

Hopping on the ship one time isn't grounds for disqualifying the idea, but kudos for at least attempting it.

many ppl have attempted the "hate" idea and have proved it to be unrelated. Why r u trying to sound so cocky when u refuse to even read one page back? Ur not helping throw new ideas out there, just rehashing old ones and being pretty damn stubborn about them

[klvino]

The NM that drops Gargoyle Boots jumps up onto the boat in Carpenter's Landing randomly if I recall correctly. Maybe people just haven't been on it at the right time.

This seems the most reasonable idea. It's all down to luck, which means some of us will never see the bastard.

[Indalecia]

This doesn't directly deal with popping AA on the ferry, but a thought occured to me: can AA appear in Nyzul? I haven't personally seen him yet, but the doesn't immediately disqualify it. If yes, we can at least get an idea of the drops off him, yes?

[Pergo]

after re-reading through a bunch of jp websites, what i'd like to know is why they all say he has "additional effect: stun", yet all the sites report that they have not seen him...

[Sagacious Sundi]

This doesn't directly deal with popping AA on the ferry, but a thought occured to me: can AA appear in Nyzul? I haven't personally seen him yet, but the doesn't immediately disqualify it. If yes, we can at least get an idea of the drops off him, yes?

Not according to lists of all mobs/NMs found in Nyzul. These are from around March, so they might have added more NMs.

[Khamsin]

after re-reading through a bunch of jp websites, what i'd like to know is why they all say he has "additional effect: stun", yet all the sites report that they have not seen him...

Because that's the way SE is.