Batallia lore question

[diony]

Most of the Kuluu became tonberry after the meltdown

[Sagacious Sundi]

Yve'noile clearly states that the five races are Zilart mutated by the Meltdown. Kuluu, beastmen, and our other crazy creatures were also created by the Meltdown.

The San d'Orian cathedral teaches that the beastmen were created by Promathia, but the Moblins and Jabbo (?) conclude that everyone has an equal part of both Altana and Promathia in them (hence, they're brothers).

How could Kuluu be created by the meltdown they caused? The Kuluu were Zilart who lost the ability to hear the "whisper of the soul" and were segregated from the rest of the population.

Er, meant to say they were Tonberryated.

[Rakshaka]

Back to the bent trees. That stuff on them is crystalization. If you look on the cliffs and trees facing the sea, they're all crystalized.

The ZM cutscene in the hall of the gods explains how the crystals energy was released on the world during the time that the Zilart were trying to open the gate of the gods. All this energy was released when Al'Taieu was destroyed.

This massive releasing of crystal energy is also why Qufim's trees are blasted, why Ro'Maeve's in pieces, why the shorline of Beucedine's covered in crystals and blasted trees, and why we find crystals on all mobs nowadays.

[DragonCloud64]

Hmm alot of interesting stuff in this thread, someone tell elmer to compile the fragments of this story into an interesting fashion :D

[Gwynplaine]

Unless the nations lose control of a region to the beastmen. Then suddenly crystals don't exist anymore within a particular geographic region, lol.

[Septimus]

Galka were born from one of the 5 Altana Tears(Mothercrystal pieces) specifically the Alteiu mothercrystal. Which makes sense as to why they can't return to it, however I thought that souls that die return to the nearest mothercrystal, not that whcih they were born to.

Also beastmen are creatures that were created by the radiation from the exploded crystal line right? And the Altana religion gives an explanation and said the beastmen were zilart that were deformed for trying to reach heaven(like how in the bible, those that helped in building the tower of babel were turned into monsters.

The gods didn't punish the zilart for opening the gates to paradise, the gods actually WANT paradise to exist, so the altana religion is pretty incorrect. The zilart existed in paradise with the gods so they weren't punished exactly. All the gods basically hate altana for making vanadiel.

Really, the gods are rather ambivalent to the opening of the gates of paradise. All but Odin and Alexander are content to sleep away eternity inside their protocrystals.

The San d'Orian cathedral teaches that the beastmen were created by Promathia, but the Moblins and Jabbo (?) conclude that everyone has an equal part of both Altana and Promathia in them (hence, they're brothers).

The Moblins determined that if Promathia was their father, that someone had to be their mother, and Altana was the logical choice- the same for the human races. They reasoned that makes beastmen and humans brothers, yet they still attack me when I go to visit them- not exactly brotherly love in my opinion.

[SeraphusRagnarok]

Really, the gods are rather ambivalent to the opening of the gates of paradise. All but Odin and Alexander are content to sleep away eternity inside their protocrystals.

Thats what the religion says, but the gods hate Vanadiel they wish to return to paradise. When the Zilart open the gates, the gods can restore paradise, and destroy vanadiel. The zilart lived amongst the gods in paradise, i dont see why they wouldnt want to be awakened. Even during waking the beast quests, the gods hate the terrestrial avatars befcause they try to defend vanadiel, wheread the elemental avatars,the sleeping gods, want it destroyed and see the restoration of the divided god(promathia)

[Sigi]

The Moblins determined that if Promathia was their father, that someone had to be their mother, and Altana was the logical choice- the same for the human races. They reasoned that makes beastmen and humans brothers, yet they still attack me when I go to visit them- not exactly brotherly love in my opinion.

Might have something to do with you trying to steal Jabbo away for your harem

[Septimus]

Thats what the religion says, but the gods hate Vanadiel they wish to return to paradise. When the Zilart open the gates, the gods can restore paradise, and destroy vanadiel. The zilart lived amongst the gods in paradise, i dont see why they wouldnt want to be awakened. Even during waking the beast quests, the gods hate the terrestrial avatars befcause they try to defend vanadiel, wheread the elemental avatars,the sleeping gods, want it destroyed and see the restoration of the divided god(promathia)

I do not remember the religion even acknowledging the existence of avatars. The Zilart came after "paradise", otherwise why would they have tried to restore it? (Which lead to the Kuluu sabotage and the meltdown.) The Celestial Avatars dislike the Terrestrial Avatars because they are beneath them, they were comparable to animals to humans before the world was remade. (After "paradise" ended and before the meltdown.) They particularly dislike Carbuncle because he is trying to use their power to save Vana'diel. (Every time someone summons, it brings the sleeping gods closer to waking. Carbuncle wants them to awaken, but like humans so much that they don't destroy the world.)

If the sleeping gods wanted the world destroyed and paradise restored, they would wake up and do it. The fact that they are content to slumber for eternity shows that they don't care.

Might have something to do with you trying to steal Jabbo away for your harem

Sorry, only Galkas who don't look like they are wearing a trash bag may apply.

[Sagacious Sundi]

I was looking at a list of quasilumin text, and this I think concludes that the spatial transfer is the cause of the damage around Shu'Meyo:

Fei'Yin, Ro'Maeve, and Pso'Xja destroyed during spatial transfer of Al'Taieu. Heavy casualties recorded among Kuluu personnel.

Fei'Yin and Ro'Maeve's damage is obvious; I would assume the damage done to Pso'Xja would be how it is now "deactivated". (When it's activated, doesn't it take control of Diabolos or something? Maybe I'm just getting Pso'Xja/Diabolos and Horutoto/Fenrir confused.)

[Lordshin]

Only Galkas that do the ritual reincarnate. They only reincarnate as a form of reproduction, an old Galka leaves for the mountains or some shit and they go off to do a ritual. The ones that die in battle or whatever return to the crystal and probably are not reborn (as Galka don't reproduce sexually). Remember they say that an old galka leaves town, and several days later a young one appears.

Errr, reincarnation isn't a method of reproduction...

I'm still not sure where little Galka come from...

FOr the Galka yes it is....
Galka came from ALtana... as said before they are muted form of the Zilart.

As for where little galka cme from:
When a Big galka falls in love with.... errm.... nvm...
The galka Travel to Revelation Rock(i think correct me if im wrong) and there they "die" and then are reborn as little galka :O...
But of course if a galka is killed he will not be reborn.. because he didnt go do whatever at Wherever (Revelation rock?)
So that would mean the same galka are living now lived back when galka were first created


Back on the tree topic:
Those crystals on the trees may be a clue on what Happened, in Beaucedine there are Crystals on the edge of the cliff on the east side overlooking the Shu'Meyo sea.. (this is all in that KI topic on the Shu'Meyo Cataclysm )
Ive actually never been to the cliff in Sauromugue so i have no input there
Also there ar Crystals in Zi'Tah and i dont know why (does it say why ingame?)

[Septimus]

FOr the Galka yes it is....
Galka came from ALtana... as said before they are muted form of the Zilart.

As for where little galka cme from:
When a Big galka falls in love with.... errm.... nvm...
The galka Travel to Revelation Rock(i think correct me if im wrong) and there they "die" and then are reborn as little galka :O...
But of course if a galka is killed he will not be reborn.. because he didnt go do whatever at Wherever (Revelation rock?)
So that would mean the same galka are living now lived back when galka were first created

They don't have to go back to Revelation Rock, that was just a spiritual place from their homeland. They do prefer hills for their Journey of Rebirth, in the quest "A Foreman's Best Friend" Gudav says that the foreman must have set off on his Journey of Rebirth on Zegham Hill in North Gustaberg.

[Melios]

Really, the gods are rather ambivalent to the opening of the gates of paradise. All but Odin and Alexander are content to sleep away eternity inside their protocrystals.

Odd how those two seemed to go to great lengths for Ragnarok...or at least Odin, what with having the Dark Kindred bring someone to sing Lay of the Immortals at his protocrystal....only to pack his bags and move to Hazhalm Testing Grounds for some reason and then leave the Star of Tavnazia at his shattered protocrystal. Why did Promathia lead Raogrimm to Odin anyway? To awaken the Zilart?

And then there's the missing Light Protocrystal......