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[Ramzii]

It's quite a well known -theory-, there's threads detailing different compasses which are all basically the same as each other, but that's all it is. Theory.
I say this to my friends all the same, hq is completely random. It could depend on absoluetly anything, I don't believe in moon phase as I've no success on new moon (the supposed hq moon) after crafting numerous times. But had major success with earth crystal synths, in which I faced SE in all of them, most of which were on winds/darksday.
So you can write off this theory as rubbish. You're entitled to, I'm superstitious and always take direction/day into consideration when crafting. It's what I've done since the dawn of time.
What is there to lose? I'm just trying to go off my experiences.

Test every theory til you want to throw your computer screen out of the window, it landed my friend 2 back to back kaiser bodies.

Run.

I'm going to have to agree with lins here :S

[Shizuka]

Why?

Cause I'll get bashed by some forum trolls for being successful in my own methods?

Better start then.

[Ramzii]

Why?

Cause I'll get bashed by some forum trolls for being successful in my own methods?

Better start then.

everyone method has been tested and not one has shown some sort of increase in HQ rate, it's all luck... the last time I hq'd a t0 using direction/moonphase/day is god knows when, I just started randomly synthing and most of my weskits ended up being on earths or lightning day 40-60% moon, which is the apparent "bad moonphase" which I think is complete garbage seeing as how I've gone 0/24 and 0/48 on t1/t2 on new/full moon, so if you want to waste your time only synthing at certain times when you can have the same HQ rate at random times, then be my guest

[vegetaa]

It's quite a well known -theory-, there's threads detailing different compasses which are all basically the same as each other, but that's all it is. Theory.
I say this to my friends all the same, hq is completely random. It could depend on absoluetly anything, I don't believe in moon phase as I've no success on new moon (the supposed hq moon) after crafting numerous times. But had major success with earth crystal synths, in which I faced SE in all of them, most of which were on winds/darksday.
So you can write off this theory as rubbish. You're entitled to, I'm superstitious and always take direction/day into consideration when crafting. It's what I've done since the dawn of time.
What is there to lose? I'm just trying to go off my experiences.

Test every theory til you want to throw your computer screen out of the window, it landed my friend 2 back to back kaiser bodies.

Wait, you honnestly think your friend purposedly went 2/2 on Kaiser body ? Only thing I can tell you at this point, is to follow Linsivi's advice.

In that kind of situation, it's not our duty to prove you wrong...it's basically your duty to prove you're not pulling random unrelated facts out of your ass. The only *scientific* way to prove your theory is to bring some valid data about thousands of crafting attempts. So far you brought data about...let me count real quick...2 attempts.

[Kilik]

back on track with screenshots!! (though the item isnt really amazing...)

friend was skilling up and went 2/15
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7867/huzzahwn6.jpg

[BerenTebogo]

back on track with screenshots!! (though the item isnt really amazing...)

friend was skilling up and went 2/15
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7867/huzzahwn6.jpg

Your amazing synths do not belong here >:O

But seriously, I think over all the individual people testing 500+ synths every direction / moon w/e we have at least data for /10,000 base.

And the cumulative answers over a 10,000 base say that guess what, your friend with the kaiser body got as lucky as Icy synthing those gem guantlets, and trust me, she had no friggin idea that she was trying to HQ them.

Crafting theories are bullshit, you can be superstitious and craft when you want, I don't care, I haven't seen a hikazu hakama since may, I shout for THF last hit every fucking Arrapago, do I know that it has NO FRIGGIN EFFECT, yes and that is the difference.

Honestly believing for the sake of believing over hard, solid, evidence is evidence of only one thing: Ignorance, if you wan't to rephrase and say "yeah its pointless, but im superstitious and its not hurting anyone" fine, I understand that, but nothing except random probability and horseshoe up his ass got your friend 2 Kaiser bodies, nothing.

[Zarath]

everyone method has been tested and not one has shown some sort of increase in HQ rate, it's all luck... the last time I hq'd a t0 using direction/moonphase/day is god knows when, I just started randomly synthing and most of my weskits ended up being on earths or lightning day 40-60% moon, which is the apparent "bad moonphase" which I think is complete garbage seeing as how I've gone 0/24 and 0/48 on t1/t2 on new/full moon, so if you want to waste your time only synthing at certain times when you can have the same HQ rate at random times, then be my guest

I avoid new/full moons, they fuck up my HQ rate seriously, those theories are utter bullshit. More or less I craft when I feel I'll HQ, unless it's those days, cause I know my muse is way off .

[Doc]

It's funny how some people are so adamant on synthing on a certain moon/day. The moon/day thing could be true and there they are synthing on their favorite/supposed best combo that turns out to actually be the worst for that crystal...over and over again you screw yourself. :T

[Ramzii]

It's funny how some people are so adamant on synthing on a certain moon/day. The moon/day thing could be true and there they are synthing on their favorite/supposed best combo that turns out to actually be the worst for that crystal...over and over again you screw yourself. :T

i agree 100%

[Skeetaru]

Just dont feed the idiots here.


In other news 0/30 Unicorn Leggings (No breaks tho!)

[Izzy]

Quick question:

#1 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 - Tier 0 or 1?

#2 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 50 Leather 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

#3 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 Leather 49 - Tier 0 or 1?

#4 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

I always took it as each craft was it's own tier soooo. The odds of HQing #1 would be (odds of HQ tier 0 60 synth)+(odds of of HQ tier 1 92 synth)=HQ rate.

MAYBE I JUST DON'T KNOW LOL

[Ramzii]

uh, which synth

[Izzy]

Hypothetical situation.

[Pyree]

#1 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 - Tier 0 or 1?

Tier 0.

#2 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 50 Leather 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

Tier 1 assuming you have Clothcraft 61.

#3 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 Leather 49 - Tier 0 or 1?

Tier 0.

#4 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

Tier 1.

All of the required crafts must meet the tier in order for you to qualify for it. Tiers don't combine for multiple crafts.

[Izzy]

#1 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 - Tier 0 or 1?

Tier 0.

[quote:1uy5ku1b]#2 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 50 Leather 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

Tier 1 assuming you have Clothcraft 61.

#3 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 60 Leather 49 - Tier 0 or 1?

Tier 0.

#4 Smithing 92 Clothcraft 29 - Tier 1 or 2?

Tier 1.

All of the required crafts must meet the tier in order for you to qualify for it. Tiers don't combine for multiple crafts.[/quote:1uy5ku1b]
OK, so basically the synth takes the lowest tier rank for HQ rate!

Thanks a million!

[Tomiko]

OK, so basically the synth takes the lowest tier rank for HQ rate!

That's how I've always looked at it as well.

[suji]

Just dont feed the idiots here.


In other news 0/30 Unicorn Leggings (No breaks tho!)

gl, I broke two out of 15 or so, though in one of them I didn't lose any behemoth leathers. I was pretty pissed at the game on the time when I lost the leathers though x.x

[suji]

The only reason I did this is cause I don't plan on selling it, and I'm a very big fan of signing my own gear, and gear for friends. When I quit, this will prolly go to one of my friends, most of which have gear signed by me. If I didn't sign it a few days ago, It would just have been lingering on my head forever >_>! I trust my leathercraft, somewhat.

Too bad your friends are going to get a gimp belt that can't be used at Lv55.

[Shizuka]

Jealousy springs to mind. Anyway,

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/1...6101812ng8.png

[Shamaya]

Wait, you honnestly think your friend purposedly went 2/2 on Kaiser body ? Only thing I can tell you at this point, is to follow Linsivi's advice.

In that kind of situation, it's not our duty to prove you wrong...it's basically your duty to prove you're not pulling random unrelated facts out of your ass. The only *scientific* way to prove your theory is to bring some valid data about thousands of crafting attempts even though I know the person I'm talking about never made a claim to prove any sort of theory, and even though I'm not bringing valid data about thousand of crafting attempts to prove anything to the contrary. So far you brought data about...let me count real quick...2 attempts.

fixed. Also use your spell-check.

But seriously, I think over all the individual people testing 500+ synths every direction / moon w/e we have at least data for /10,000 base.

And the cumulative answers over a 10,000 base say that guess what, your friend with the kaiser body got as lucky as Icy synthing those gem guantlets, and trust me, she had no friggin idea that she was trying to HQ them.

Ah yes, all the masses that attempted to synth under specific conditions and it didn't work. And I suppose the masses of synths that did HQ under specific conditions needn't matter at all. I see more veteran crafters who have no luck with special conditions, but almost as many who do. I'm not claiming that you can't give me a source where there's actually an organized compilation of such a large number of synths as you say, but if you're going to bring it there and state that you're dead positive that synths are completely random, you'd better back it up. I don't say you don't have a source to link, but if you do, please do so. It's much easier to prove that there's no evidence to firmly substantiate something than it is to prove that there is evidence to firmly substantiate something, in most cases. Unless there's firm evidence on the age-old crafting condition debate, it's best to remain neutral on it and go with the anecdotals for your own personal synths.

Too bad your friends are going to get a gimp belt that can't be used at Lv55.

Subjectivity. You assume that said friend would use it at those lower levels, and that they'd prefer using it under seldom capped circumstances to the alternative of seeing their good friend's name on it every time they log on. Preference, my good man.