CoP 8-3 bc post "nerf"?

[Arnwulf]

Anyone done this bc since the CoP "nerf" update? I'm about to do this bc and everyone I've talked to keeps telling me how annoying and hard it is. I would be interested to hear how it's changed, besides the lack of xp loss and actually gaining xp if you've beaten it before. Any info you can give would be helpful.

[Vedder]

Pretty sure it wasn't nerfed as part of the last round of CoP mission adjustments...

They added XP reward for beating it, but that's about it.

[Shuemue]

It's not that hard, just make sure you have 2-3 ES+Sleepga

[evilpaul]

Also make sure the next person who's going to sleepga times the first guy's spell..

[OctavoGilgamesh]

Just did it recently for some friends. Wasn't nerfed, like it was said above, at least 2 es sleepga's and your golden. It is easier on the buffer now though since you use a sac strategy.

[Hoshiku]

How and when was it nerfed? I originally did 8-3 before the CoP adjustments, and have been helping a few friends through CoP lately. If anything I find most missions to be easier than when I originally did them. As far as 8-3 goes, I didn't find it to be much different than the first time I did it, bring a reraise earring and don't be surprised if several people wipe after the second or third pot. Just get up and finish it. You should be fine.

[Arnwulf]

Nice, thanks for the advice, strat sounds pretty simple, the key seems to be killing the BLM pots before first wipe. I know it's harder than it sounds but hopefully I can get some help w/ this now that you don't lose xp.

[fallenleaf]

I think it was slightly "buffed" no? simply because you lose all TP when you enter ala ENM style...? So i've heard anyway.

[Achika]

I think it was slightly "buffed" no? simply because you lose all TP when you enter ala ENM style...? So i've heard anyway.

Yeah, you lose TP now when entering. Kinda sucky, but understandable. At least I think it's understandable.

[sb]

With out xp loss, this BC can be zombied with hymnus spam and any random goup of 5 others as long as there is enough DD.

[Avé]

How and when was it nerfed? I originally did 8-3 before the CoP adjustments, and have been helping a few friends through CoP lately. If anything I find most missions to be easier than when I originally did them. As far as 8-3 goes, I didn't find it to be much different than the first time I did it, bring a reraise earring and don't be surprised if several people wipe after the second or third pot. Just get up and finish it. You should be fine.

It wasn't nerfed, the only adjustments were to Promyvion's and Snoll with the instant salt. And being able to put BC items up on the AH (CCB, Anima, Salt, etc.)

[Spekkio]

as long as you have a good compliment of ES sleeps, it's very easy. make sure your whm subs blm so they can get an ES sleepga off too. lead off w/ your whm casting ES sleepga after the pull and start your clock. when that's only got a few seconds left, have your blm ES sleepga2, layering to buy more time. with that combination and a bit of ass woopin, the blm pots should die EASILY, possibly with enough time to get a rdm pot before sleep wears (probably need 2 hrs to get that far that fast, but it's doable.) at that point, if you have a rdm, they can ES sleep2 the rdm pot you're not fighting, giving you plenty of time to kill the other pot at a leisurely pace and then topple the last one w/o a problem. realistically though, your main goal should be to kill the 2 blm before you wipe. do that, and you win.

[Bakthi]

We had 2 sleepers, a WHM/BLM and a BST/BLM. Anyone /BLM can use ES+Sleepga for full duration. We had...WAR MNK NIN WHM BST BRD, I think...made it through 3.5 pots before the first wipe. Then again, I think we were able to sleep TP. MNK is, of course, nice to have.

[Everlasting]

Uhh, the REAL key is to get everyone to wipe in an area where it's safe to RR.

[Alibeemac]

Not difficult if you know what you are doing. Have done this several times 'pre-patch'. My static went 1/1 and I went 1/1 when I helped out some friends who knew how to follow instructions. Helped out another group once before who obviously couldn't read or something and we wiped about 4 times. Most successful run we did was without a tank and had whm blm mnk mnk drk drk and didn't even wipe and have to reraise. ES Sleepga 2, 2 x HF and 2 x BW took 2.5 pots down before the last woke up. Basically tho you want to get the 2 BLM pots down asap before any mid run wipe or it makes it near impossible to reraise due to proximity of them. Have your mages stand backs against the wall at far door then they can raise there np. Never taken more than 1 BLM into this fight. Have your WHM sub blm tho for a back up ES Sleepga just in case.