Pankration Wiki

[BRP]

Under Starting Jobs have what 99% of monsters give (for example, WAR) and also list WAR/BLM* and under Special Information(on their page) list what NM(s) give WAR/BLM.

[Maxxthepenguin]

I made the page to be a consolidated page including all of that info gdi

[BRP]

I don't see the pros for its cons. Every monster in the game would just make the page cluttered and way too big. The difference between monsters of the same family range from small to inexistent. I have not see anything in my personal experience or discussion here that would justify putting special focus on every single monster. Right now, I think it's very easy to use. If someone was looking for information Antlions, they would hit "Vermin", scroll down, see all basic information and if they felt the need to see more, just click it's name.

[Maxxthepenguin]

We could have had a 'general mobs of the type' thing and other ones for NMs.

[Khamsin]

Just a minor suggestion: How about renaming it "Pankration Monsters"?

Pit Monster is just the default pankration monster name when someone doesn't change it.

[Maxxthepenguin]

It was original Pankration Monster Info

It was changed TO Pit Monster Info.

[Khamsin]

It was original Pankration Monster Info

It was changed TO Pit Monster Info.

It should be moved back to its original name! If I want to know about Bloody Beast-- er.. I mean, Pit Monster's stats, I'll look there.

[BRP]

I looked over what SE calls them. They only name them once, saying Pankration Monsters:

The current level cap for Pankration monsters is 50.

I suppose Pankration Monsters would be the superior page name then.

[rath]

Ok, who added reserve draugar and didn't specify which freaking job was the starting job >_> If you need to specify what job skeleton you soultrapped, fine. But we need specifics up in herre.

Drauger start as all the jobs that were listed there. You could take a pic and get a drk or any of those other jobs as your main, all from reserve draugers.

Edit: Someone will need to get that info again regardless, since none of it was put on the reformatted page, it was just deleted.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Ok, who added reserve draugar and didn't specify which freaking job was the starting job >_> If you need to specify what job skeleton you soultrapped, fine. But we need specifics up in herre.

Drauger start as all the jobs that were listed there. You could take a pic and get a drk or any of those other jobs as your main, all from reserve draugers.

Edit: Someone will need to get that info again regardless, since none of it was put on the reformatted page, it was just deleted.

The way I planned it was to have seperate entries for things with different jobs and a standard, say, 'antlion family' thing for the most common one.

[rath]

There is no common starting job for draugar. If you take a pic of a draugar servant with a staff, you get a blm. If you take a pic of Draugar servant with a sword, you get a drk. They have the same name in-game.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Reserve Draugar (Staff)
Reserve Draugar (Scythe)
Reserve Draugar (Lance)

Could have worked.

[rath]

That could have, but then you will still need an entry for every single one. Since only the weapon was different, that seems like it is just cluttering the list. The current format seems much better (undead>Skeleton>Draugar>Draugar page), just someone shouldn't have just deleted old info. They should have re-added all the old entries.

[Maxxthepenguin]

Eh, it's not a big deal, I'm just peeved that somebody changed it from what I originally made :/

[Khamsin]

Reserve Draugar (Staff)
Reserve Draugar (Scythe)
Reserve Draugar (Lance)

Could have worked.

Reserve Draugar (BLM)
Reserve Draugar (DRK)
Reserve Draugar (DRG)

would probably be better, not just for Pankration, but also in other parts of the wiki.

For example,

Om'aern (THF)
Om'aern (BRD)
Om'aern (BLM)
Om'aern (BST)

etc.

[BRP]

somebody

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Reserve Draugar (BLM)
Reserve Draugar (DRK)
Reserve Draugar (DRG)

would probably be better, not just for Pankration, but also in other parts of the wiki.

For example,

Om'aern (THF)
Om'aern (BRD)
Om'aern (BLM)
Om'aern (BST)

etc.

I don't think that would be necessary. I can't imagine how splitting them up would be all too helpful, especially since their potential TP Attacks would be on the Aern page(for example). It would be more convenient just to note the jobs on the single Om'aern page(again, for example).

[Khamsin]

somebody

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[quote:17b8d]Reserve Draugar (BLM)
Reserve Draugar (DRK)
Reserve Draugar (DRG)

would probably be better, not just for Pankration, but also in other parts of the wiki.

For example,

Om'aern (THF)
Om'aern (BRD)
Om'aern (BLM)
Om'aern (BST)

etc.

I don't think that would be necessary. I can't imagine how splitting them up would be all too helpful, especially since their potential TP Attacks would be on the Aern page(for example). It would be more convenient just to note the jobs on the single Om'aern page(again, for example).[/quote:17b8d]

I just meant it more as a means to distinguish between different mobs of the same name. For example, if you look up "Evil Weapon" on Somepage, you'll find 8 entries. A WAR and a RDM for 4 different zones that have a mob named "Evil Weapon". 3 of the 4 zones are all the same level range as each other, so you could just say it's the same 2 mobs found in multiple zones. The 4th zone has a different level range than the others. This is more apparent with mobs such as Soldier Crawlers, which have widely varying level ranges depending on which zone you find them in. Or, to an even bigger extent, elementals.

On BGWiki, is the intent to have a single "Evil Weapon" or "Soldier Crawler" page with a list of what zones they are found in, and what level ranges and jobs (if applicable) they are in each zone? Or is the intent to have a unique page for each entity, e.g. a page for the 36-38 Batallia Downs WAR Evil Weapon, and another page for the 35-37 Ranguemont Pass RDM Evil Weapon like Somepage?

[BRP]

On BGWiki, is the intent to have a single "Evil Weapon" or "Soldier Crawler" page with a list of what zones they are found in, and what level ranges and jobs (if applicable) they are in each zone? Or is the intent to have a unique page for each entity, e.g. a page for the 36-38 Batallia Downs WAR Evil Weapon, and another page for the 35-37 Ranguemont Pass RDM Evil Weapon like Somepage?

I'm pretty sure it's the former, though our monster pages are underdeveloped.

[rath]

Well I made the "draugar" entry generic, and the linked page explains they have different starting jobs based on the mob you actually capture.

[BRP]

Shortcut for linking monsters to their Pankration page:

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Templatea ... nster_Name