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  1. #21
    The Once and Future Wamoura
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Given your jobs I'd pick Ethereal

    However, I love my Magnetic to death on RDM >:

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Loq+Mag on PLD/NIN as well as having Homam Cosciales is very nice since you rely on getting hit for Ethereal to work(and you're doing pld/nin very wrong if you get hit too much and want to rely on Ethereal), you're otherwise casting Flash, Cure3, Cure4 very often which Mag will help with, and the lol8% spell interrupt bonus when you don't shield block may save you even if it's hard to notice. Some tests were done my some taru with a maat's cap, forgot name.

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    It depends what you're fighting. I have both of those jobs leveled but consider myself a main PLD. (My BLM has +4 enmity etc xD) I have had ethereal for a while now and I love it. It's one of 2 items that never leave my current equip. (Sattva) There is no way I would ever trade it for another Apoc nigh earring, it's an extra refresh depending on what you're fighting.

    This all does depend on what you plan to do with Paladin though. Future main job or staying BLM main? I would choose ethereal either way because I tanks mobs like Khim every week and TP moves /will/ get through for 400-500+ all the time. It's been said already. Ethereal is irreplacable. Static is used rarely, I can't think of 1 mob my hnmls MB's on these days. Magnetic isn't bad, but can be replaced... Ethereal is just way to good to pass up imo.

  4. #24
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    i had ethereal for the HP and thinking i'd someday lvl a job that could make use of the conversion stat (before they let you change earrings)

    then i changed to magnetic

    i use magnetic on blm in solo meripo in place of my elemental earring (no novio ), on whm when casting most things, on smn on all things but BPs, and on all debuff blu spells. Also, it has a place next to my relaxing earring for all of those jobs ;P

    not knocking ethereal, but just stating what i use the magnetic for

  5. #25
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    I thought I understood how the MAB vs. Static works, but after this discussion I find myself unsure. I recently dropped my magnetic to pick up a static under the assumtion that static would be more useful to me for both BLM and BLU. I haven't had a chance to redo AN yet (I've been waitiing on a friend who needed B1 and to climb the spires). In the time I've been waiting, I won the lot on our most recent Novio drop.

    Just to make sure I'm getting what other people are saying(please correct me if I have gotten this wrong):

    In MB situations where the total MAB is over 40, Static>Novio
    In MB situations where the total MAB is less than 40, Novio>Static
    In all MB situations, except when at 0 MAB Static>Moldivte

    (Of corse, I would be swaping the Static for the Moldivite as opposed to the Novio. And with a Novio I wouln't be at 0 MAB, even bursting on BLU. I just want to make sure I am understanding the math.)

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Quote Originally Posted by sb
    I thought I understood how the MAB vs. Static works, but after this discussion I find myself unsure. I recently dropped my magnetic to pick up a static under the assumtion that static would be more useful to me for both BLM and BLU. I haven't had a chance to redo AN yet (I've been waitiing on a friend who needed B1 and to climb the spires). In the time I've been waiting, I won the lot on our most recent Novio drop.

    Just to make sure I'm getting what other people are saying(please correct me if I have gotten this wrong):

    In MB situations where the total MAB is over 40, Static>Novio
    In MB situations where the total MAB is less than 40, Novio>Static
    In all MB situations, except when at 0 MAB Static>Moldivte

    (Of corse, I would be swaping the Static for the Moldivite as opposed to the Novio. And with a Novio I wouln't be at 0 MAB, even bursting on BLU. I just want to make sure I am understanding the math.)
    Look at it this way. If X is your current MAB, then equipping an item with MAB+Y makes your new MAB equal to X + (Y/100). In the case of Novio, that means it becomes X+.07. This means that the amount of damage more you'll be doing with Novio is ((X+.07)/X). The amount more you'll be doing with Static is always 5% more. So what you want are the values of X for which 1.05 > ((X+.07)/X), which solves for X > 1.4 (or MAB greater than 40) before adding earring.

    Edit for further clarity: So basically to take what you wrote and fix it a little,

    In MB situations where the total MAB before earring is considered is over 40, Static>Novio
    In MB situations where the total MAB before earring is considered is less than 40, Novio>Static
    In all MB situations, except when at 0 MAB Static>Moldivte is true, and at 0 MAB (before earring) they are equal

  7. #27
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Isn't it impossible to be at 0 MAB? I think you mean >1 MAB, which I think vs MDB would do.

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Quote Originally Posted by BRP
    Isn't it impossible to be at 0 MAB? I think you mean >1 MAB, which I think vs MDB would do.
    It's the terminology. To say that someone has "0 MAB" is the equivalent to saying the term that gets multiplied is 1.0. If someone has 15 MAB then the term is 1.15, 50 MAB it's 1.50, etc. Interestingly the JP seem to do it differently, starting from 100 and working in integers, so if a JP says that they have 132 MAB, they mean what we say 32 MAB, but that's just convention, the math still works out the same.

  9. #29
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Static is the Suppa of Apoc. Night

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    Quote Originally Posted by Awoir
    Static is the Suppa of Apoc. Night

    lols.

    None of the earrings are as good as suppa used to be.

  11. #31
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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    You're leveling RDM, go for Magnetic.

    There are better earrings for both PLD and BLM.

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    I picked Static Earring and every night I go kneel next to bed and pray to Sundi that one day SE will boost SCs to the point that melees will come to me and say "Hay, we are making Skillchains, please MB them".

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    You're leveling RDM, go for Magnetic.
    I disagree with this statement. I don't see a single real benefit to a magnetic earing (this is coming from someone who owned one and dropped it). Every function on that earring is replaceable with the exception of lol-conserve MP.

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    Re: Apoc. Nigh Earring Choices With BLM & PLD

    For BLM it depends what your other earring is. If you have a Novio, Magnetic is useless unless you feel like macroing it in for buffs and cures to save 2 mp. If you don't have a novio, it's still pretty close to useless, seeing as you save ~2% MP with it. Might as well equip a int+2 earring or placebo loquacious. Static is the highest dmg earring on magic bursts, if you actually do them. They're both pretty close to useless. Static is lolepeen. Magnetic is lolimtootrendytohaveanepeen.

    Get the ethereal >.>

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