Fishing

[Windfoxster]

Has anyone else noticed an additional effect of Penguin ring is the fish doesn't fight as hard? A friend of mine said something to me when he was fishing titans that he noticed the back and forth rod action was a lot less when using his penguin ring and lately I've been fishing Lik and I've noticed the same thing. Without Penguin ring the back and forth is craaaazy but with the ring it's noticeably decreased.

All along i thought that's the main effect of penguin ring, it is to minimize the rod's swings so you can have a better chance to fight it. What is your main effect of the ring then? lol

[Theraven]

All along i thought that's the main effect of penguin ring, it is to minimize the rod's swings so you can have a better chance to fight it. What is your main effect of the ring then? lol

I always thought the rings effect was making hp deplete faster. Wiki seems to think so as well.

[cdgreg]

All along i thought that's the main effect of penguin ring, it is to minimize the rod's swings so you can have a better chance to fight it. What is your main effect of the ring then? lol

I know wiki isn't omg100% right, but it says

Penguin Ring - FFXIclopedia, the Final Fantasy XI wiki - Characters, items, jobs, and more

The effect of the ring dramatically increases the rate of stamina drain of a fish while you try to reel it in.

[cdgreg]

@skilling in the 50's question, I know some people love trumpets, and evilpaul is gonna give AP's a try, but I really don't think you can beat Nashmau/Talacca. I HATED trumpets, well let me change that, I still hate trumpets. The bite rate can be real hit or miss and they have a TON of stamina.

As for AP's evilpaul said he'd desynth them for 20k a stack, that is true paul but I just checked our rate of sale and it's .9 stacks a day. Let's say you fished up 120 AP's in a day you'll be sitting with a lot of extra stacks very soon, not to mention you need to factor in the 2k cost of crystals. I know the 2k cost of crystals isn't omgwtfbbq but it does drop your profit down to 18k per stack. It's also a desynth which means there will be more breaks but obviously also more HQs. Add both of those factors along with the few hundred gil in AH fees you're probably down to 17k per stack profit. I just also just thought of the opportunity cost of taking time to synth instead of re-casting, I know there's also opportunity cost of npcing the fish, but it's a thought the synthing would add up to much more time over an extended period. I really don't think Nash/Talacca can be beaten for skill up rate/profit ratio until 86/90. But AP desynthed into shells and NPCing some are a great idea for 90-100.

[urat]

If you have a lv 100 bonecrafting trumpet shells are pure heaven, otherwise they do have a pretty bad bite rate but their skillup rate is through the roof.

Also I wouldn't recommend desynthing the shells for alch unless you want the skillups, the raw shells will sell miles faster then the crabon dioxide or whatever it is you desynth em into.

[cdgreg]

I meant lightning crystal + AP = titanictus shell. I just assumed it was desynth but I may be wrong on that.

[Terravcota]

The only thing that sucks about AP desynth to Titanictus shells is it can't HQ them like you can Titanictus - you can only get 1 shell, and the shells only npc for like 350g. IMO, you might as well just empty your inventory as much as possible, fish to full inv, warp and NPC the fish (for like 950g) and come back to fish. I'm was all about fishing for money, though, and having skill just come slowly.

Is fishing Trumpets w/ Apron that much better or something? Last time I went to fish them, I didn't cap out in 10 hours and then I still had to synth them all. With the HQ rings so cheap (like 13k now, I sold 3 I HQ'd while skilling my bone on them in May or June for like 40k) it doesn't really seem like it's worth it. It's 340k/day NPCing NQ rings if you get all your crystals for free, but I wonder if I could fish me out on NPC fish and then fish on my husband and make the same profit in the same or less time than it would take me to fish + synth for the rings.

[nibu]

What's the consensus on what "Frog Fishing" does? I know there's a bit of information floating out there about it, but I don't recall whether there was a definitive answer. Does it increase the rate at which amphibians bite, or does it solely increase the likelihood that you will successfully catch one after they have already bitten (i.e. same bite rate, but increased "catch" rate).

It's the only thing I haven't used my GP on, and I'm reluctant to buy it without knowing more about it since you can't get rid of it later. If it increases the bite rate of amphibians, I definitely don't want it because it might interfere with my trying to fish up other fish in an area. If it only affects the catch rate, then I'd like to get it for the sake of completion.

[cdgreg]

I got it to fish up tricorns for a fishing competition, what a waste

[urat]

Im pretty sure frog fishign does the same thing for tricorns as serpent rumours for liks/gugs.

I recall someone either in this thread or on titanictus who tested and went like 30 boat trips without a single nibble, got frog fishing and caught a tricorn first trip.

[Electro]

hey cdreg,

for cpukiller, how do i apply the patch? its not allowing me...
getting tired of the randomly having to close it and restart it lol

[cdgreg]

hey cdreg,

for cpukiller, how do i apply the patch? its not allowing me...
getting tired of the randomly having to close it and restart it lol

INSTALL INFO:

Install the program, copy our included patch
to the new program directory and run the
patch. Enjoy!

If that doesn't work then I don't know

[evilpaul]

Im pretty sure frog fishign does the same thing for tricorns as serpent rumours for liks/gugs.

I recall someone either in this thread or on titanictus who tested and went like 30 boat trips without a single nibble, got frog fishing and caught a tricorn first trip.

That was the impression I got. On Hades there was only 11 entries for the fishing competition since it was Tricorns. Myself and one other guy in my LS were all sad face over it being tricorns.

[Andrena2.0]

Tried Trumpet shells 2 days ago. Caught 47 in 3 hours with *one* .2 skillup. That was it .... Bad luck on my part? Back to grinding in nash with pelican ring I guess.

[cdgreg]

Nashmau/talacca are gods gift to fishermen. I know the scenery gets old and repetitive but for bites/Gil/skillup per hour you just can't beat it up until 90, or hell even 96 depending on your rod.

[Electro]

I've been making bank on Grimmonites/Gigant Squid. I'm only 45 right now. I have a "special" buyer who buys all my stuff minus cone calamary (i synth those into Black Ink)

@cdreg
will try that when I get home

[Yatuwatu]

Getting back into fishing after a bit of a break over the last month or two. I got my Lu Shang's before I stopped (fishing break due to fishing out 2 chars a day on moats = burnout). Dinged 35 the other night on shall shells and enjoying that bit of gil, but I'm curious about Nashmau. For low-level fishers using bad frame rates to fish/skill up in Nashmau, how long is it taking you to cap out for the day?

-Yatu

[Windfoxster]

Getting back into fishing after a bit of a break over the last month or two. I got my Lu Shang's before I stopped (fishing break due to fishing out 2 chars a day on moats = burnout). Dinged 35 the other night on shall shells and enjoying that bit of gil, but I'm curious about Nashmau. For low-level fishers using bad frame rates to fish/skill up in Nashmau, how long is it taking you to cap out for the day?

-Yatu

I don't know what you mean by bad frame, 30fps or 10fps? Cause 30 is considered "bad" for fishing lik/gugru lol. For me, i took like 5-6hrs maybe at 30fps.

[Yatuwatu]

I don't know what you mean by bad frame, 30fps or 10fps? Cause 30 is considered "bad" for fishing lik/gugru lol. For me, i took like 5-6hrs maybe at 30fps.

Sorry - I meant bad like 10fps to make it easier to catch fish so far above my current skill of 35.

-Yatu

[Windfoxster]

Hmmm, i think you should be targeting that shall shell version in ToAU. Pretty easy to catch them, don't think you need to bother with the fps.