Fishing

[Windfoxster]

Pelican Ring question: Is there any chance the effect stops say, after level 95? The last two levels have been old school. This isn't just over a few days, but weeks. It's far more common for me to get no skills on a charge than a .1. (Ptery's in Nashmau if that helps). Literally came to a grinding halt as soon as I hit 95, burned off AT LEAST 50 charges these past two levels to get to about 97.2.

It's not a dry spell, it's too long. I could get occasional duds on charges before, but NOTHING like this.

I have 56 charges left and figure i'll see 0/180, before I see 100 at this rate! Actually considered trying to enter the last contest but it was Liks on my server again...

Is it just me and a terrible long-pattern of back luck?

I did cave cherax though, took me pretty long to get skill up message. It does indeed get slow at 90ish onwards instead but the occasional 0.3 is well worth it. Are you fishing to cap on pery cause it is practically impossible to catch 200 cherax. Took me like half a day to catch 100 of it but i would suggest cherax. Some might suggest lik/gugru but personally i don't use pelican on those. Got 2 friends that only skill on lik/gugru, been 5-6months since i gotten 100 and they are not even close. -> Awoir/Theraven

[Electro]

I'm barely 68 fishing (dont have much time to fish with work/events as of lately). I've burned 25 charges on my newest (2nd) pelican ring. Catching Silver Sharks, Ryugu's, Titanictus, and the occasional Sea Sombies on the boat, and have not had it proc. I like to think that when the ring hits its like an HQ while skilling up crafting. Which isn't very often. I hear some ppl having it proc fairly often, why myself have not witnessed it.

[Terravcota]

Are we talking about the double skill up proc? In almost an entire ring (I think I had like 5 charges left when I got to 100) and I think I saw it double proc maybe 5 times. It's pretty pathetic that I thought they were so special and rare that I screen shotted all of them.

As for skill ups in general, I can't remember if I took Perytons all the way to 99, but I did at least the last level on Armored Pisces and they were good to me - I got 100 the first night I went out.

[Aerides]

I'm on Pterys till 99 - and I'm talking ANY skill up. I've seen doubles rarely.

I can bet money on not getting a single skill up of any kind in a whole charge. I'm not fishing near cap - don't spend that much time, but over 50 catches if I get a single skill up that sounds about right. It feels like fishing before I had any ring. Two RL days of fishing this way was a level, easily, from about 56-90. 90-95 did slow down a tad. From 95+ my levels are taking 7-10 days of the same fishing.

I've seen it proc often in the past - my best ever was 1 whole level of two back-to-back charges but that was rare. And yes, all throughout I saw my fair share of 0-skills charges, but I'm in a drought right at the end here! I think my first ring took me from 56-86, so I thought I was set with a whole second ring...

[Lasareth]

Fishing skillups are just rare at that level. .1-.3/50 casts seems average, maybe just a bit below but that's luck.

Are people looking for the double skillup as an indication of whether the ring is activating or not? The belief is that it gives you two separate chances at skillups, which means that a .2 standalone can either be a normal skillup or a ring skillup--there's no way to tell. I think a fairer evaluation of that would be to keep track of how many skillups you get in x reels of a certain fish without the ring and x reels of the same fish with the ring active.

I can vouch that I had a much easier time skilling up with it on. Although I gave it up in place of my penguin/albatross set to fish liks and gugrus from ~90 to cap.

[Albender]

Aerides, I strongly suggest you do Cave Cheraxs till 100 at your level.
Ptery to 99 is really not worth your time.

Up to you tho, just my advice.

Side Note: Contest ended in Ragnarok.

Biggest Gugrusaurus

Winner had a 2,102 Gug.
I ranked 13th with 1,921 Gug. (You throw away a Pelican Ring) LOL
Cap for the ring was around 1,850 ~

Regards

[Kipling]

To the above poster, would you reccomend Cave Cherax at 93? I am trying Armored Pisces at the moment, where I was previously on Black Soles in Qufim.

[Windfoxster]

To the above poster, would you reccomend Cave Cherax at 93? I am trying Armored Pisces at the moment, where I was previously on Black Soles in Qufim.

Started Cherax at level 82. Didn't really like pisces cause of blindfish biting too, only tried once on it. But i have gone 45 "didn't catch anything" on cherax though, my highest "DCA" streak.

[Kipling]

Hm, I've been using sinking minnow which seems to do a pretty good job of just finding the pisces. When I tried Cherax recently (was Remora's most recent fish ranking target) I seemed to have a super low bite rate for some reason, so I wasn't too sure about skilling up on them. Hmmm..

[nitsuj]

Aerides, I strongly suggest you do Cave Cheraxs till 100 at your level.
Ptery to 99 is really not worth your time.

This is true 9 out of 10 times. The only time you should be doing Ptery is if you have a large supply of lugworm belts for some reason or if you have very limited inventory space.

If you have to go get Cave Cherax (or I did Armored Pisces) you have to have a lot of inventory space to make it worth your time of running all the way down there.

If you only have, say, < 10 spots open just sit in nashmau and fish Ptery and sell to the NPC on the dock.

Sure it'll be slower, but it's better time investment than running way underground, getting 9 fish and having to warp back and do it again.

[Spekkio]

mightn't not lvling wood be another reason to avoid cherax since iirc, cherax can snap a lu while the AP to my knowledge can not? also, do you target cherax in QSC at the fountain of kings or kuftal tunnel?

[Theraven]

I did Pterygotus to 98.5 with no problems. Lugworms are really cheap from the guild and skillups seemed pretty normal to me, started on them at 89. I did use a pelican ring, but I've been using one since the 50's and the skillup rate wasn't noticeably different.

[cdgreg]

I did Pterygotus to 98.5 with no problems. Lugworms are really cheap from the guild and skillups seemed pretty normal to me

^, since when did Pter's start getting such a bad rep?

[Kipling]

also, do you target cherax in QSC at the fountain of kings or kuftal tunnel?

Wondering this myself. When I tried then I was at the fountain of kings, never tried Kuftal.

[Ghost_Wheel22]

I imagine Kuftal being slightly better just because of the off-chance of hooking DMs. As far as bites...I dunno

[Clyne]

I highly suggest all of you ragging on Pterygotus rates actually "parse" your catches. I can pretty much guarantee you're exaggerating your results. I felt the exact same way when I first tried them, and vowed to find another option. I could make decent gil AH'ing Dil since there wasn't a whole lot of Sole on the AH....but the skillups were awful. A lvl 100 friend gave me the same advice I'm giving now: go back to Pterygotus, it's better than you think.

92.2+15=.4+10=.5+1=.7+3=.8+4=
93.0+2=93.1+10=93.2+21...93.7+14=.8+2=
94.0+20=.2+28=.3+1=.5+3=.7+17=.9+4=
95.0+36=.1+17=.3+37=.5+34=.6+56=.8+11=.9+5=
96.1+2=.2+32=.4+2=.5+14=.7+8=.9+10=
97.1+7=.3+20=.4+26=.5+24=.7+69=.9+20=
98.1+1=.2+3=.3+19=.4

Almost all of this was with a ring. I've run out of Lugworm belts and got Ebisu a few weeks ago, so I'm done w/ Pterys, but someone who doesn't need to go to sleep can do the math and see that it's nowhere near as bad as it looks to some (yes, I am missing some numbers in 1 or 2 stretches, but it's still pretty useable). What's interesting, is you can see that the question that sparked the discussion, going from 95 > 96 was the worst stretch consistently.

Part of the problem may also be perception/expectation, coming off of Mercs & Ahtapots, which were absolutly crazy good skillups through the 80s for me & many others; I got a full level in one amazing ring charge around 82. Pterygotus are nowhere near as good, but I still think they're better than the alternatives...unless you already have an Ebisu and you're fishing Liks/Gugs for gil.

Edit: I didn't keep track of ring charges, but I avg 8-9 catches each one...I had 6/180 left after those numbers and I think I had around 70 when I started tracking, but I can't be positive.

[Aerides]

Interesting, and yes the primary reasons I'm sticking with Ptery's are the same that drove me to them after I tried Dils:

Bait is a non-issue, stock on the boat, and then log to bastok mule when I want more worms
Inventory is, i'm 56/70 on a good day so fish/sell/repeat works very well for me in nashmau.
Travel = time not fishing. If I'm running to town
No WW here either, breaks = time
Also I fish will sometimes distracted, and knowing I haven't got a monster to worry about helps my lack of attention.

I'll deal with all the above for 99-100, not worth it till then.

[haydez]

I preferred the Cave Cheraxs route but I started them at around 96 when I was getting really bored of the ptery's. They don't bite as much and are quite harder to pull up but I think I got all .3's except for a .1. I used the pelican ring though, but still it only took two or three days of fishing there to cap out. I brought my woodworking mule character there to fix my rod and get skill ups but I only broke my rod twice the entire time.

[azagarth]

hey pre ebisu rod, whats best fish to target for gil? I need get an income going to buy gugus lol..... I would fish them but i hear w/o the rod or WW80 to repair your rod there really no point.

[cdgreg]

hey pre ebisu rod, whats best fish to target for gil? I need get an income going to buy gugus lol..... I would fish them but i hear w/o the rod or WW80 to repair your rod there really no point.

what's your skill level? I really think Nashmau NPCing everything, or Talacca cove npcing all or selling Dils is great. Then again I know some people do a mixture of black sole, gugru tunas, and sushi style fish.