Fishing

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 13:52

Originally Posted by urat

Your fish list

I hope you don't mind Urat but I'm gonna combine your list with mine.

Although I notice your bot is sorting the ID's much differently, example:
Mine: (Monster) : 15-300-16-8
Yours: (Monster) : 300-16-15-8

My ID1 is your ID3
My ID2 is your ID1
My ID3 is your ID2
My ID4 is the same as your ID4

I believe your using Exiled's list as that is how it sorts it as well

Edit: wait, I might not be able to because of the different rod ID's... hmmm

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 14:27

Sorted by the last ID number

All of these, every single one, is off of an Ebisu Fishing Rod
I have no furnishings other than Fishermen's Stall. I'm not sure if this affects the ID numbers.

Quus x1 (Normal) : 9-240-12-6
Quus x1 (Angler's Senses) : 9-240-12-4 (Reduction of 2)

Quus x2 (Normal) : 9-260-12-6
Quus x2 (Angler's Senses) : 9-260-12-4 (Reduction of 2)

Quus x3 (Normal) : 10-280-12-6
Quus x3 (Angler's Senses) : 10-280-12-4 (Reduction of 2)

Giant Catfish (Normal) : 7-240-13-6
Giant Catfish (Angler's Senses) : 7-240-13-4 (Reduction of 2)

Yellow Globe x1 (Normal) : 10-180-17-8
Yellow Globe x1 (Angler's Senses) : 10-180-17-5 (Reduction of 3)

Yellow Globe x2 (Normal) : 11-180-17-8
Yellow Globe x2 (Angler's Senses) : 11-180-17-5 (Reduction of 3)

Yellow Globe x2 (Normal) : 12-200-17-8
Yellow Globe x2 (Angler's Senses) : 12-200-17-5 (Reduction of 3)

Gugru Tuna (Normal) : 7-260-16-8
Gugru Tuna (Angler's Senses) : 7-260-16-5 (Reduction of 3)

Bastore Sardine x1 (Normal) : 13-140-21-10
Bastore Sardine x1 (Angler's Senses) : 13-140-21-7 (Reduction of 3)

Bastore Sardine x2 (Normal) : 14-140-21-10
Bastore Sardine x2 (Angler's Senses) : 14-140-21-7 (Reduction of 3)

Bastore Sardine x3 (Normal) : 15-160-21-10
Bastore Sardine x3 (Angler's Senses) : 15-160-21-7 (Reduction of 3)

Bladefish (Normal) : 7-240-21-10
Bladefish (Angler's Senses) : 7-240-21-7 (Reduction of 3)

Nosteau Herring (Normal) : 9-180-21-10
Nosteau Herring (Angler's Senses) : 9-180-21-7 (Reduction of 3)

Bhefhel Marlin (Normal) : 7-300-20-10
Bhefhel Marlin (Angler's Senses) : 7-300-20-7 (Reduction of 3)

Tiger Cod (Normal) : 11-200-23-11
Tiger Cod (Angler's Senses) : 11-200-23-7 (Reduction of 4)

Bluetail (Normal) : 6-260-24-12
Bluetail (Angler's Senses) : 6-260-24-8 (Reduction of 4)

Zafmulg Bass (Normal) : 8-160-27-13
Zafmulg Bass (Angler's Senses) : 8-160-27-9 (Reduction of 4)

Gavial Fish (Normal) : 15-300-30-15
Gavial Fish (Angler's Senses) : 15-300-30-10 (Reduction of 5)

Bastore Bream (Normal) : 9-200-31-15
Bastore Bream (Angler's Senses) : 9-200-31-10 (Reduction of 5)

Silver Shark (Normal) : 5-200-35-15
Silver Shark (Angler's Senses) : 5-200-35-10 (Reduction of 5)

Black Sole (Normal) : 7-240-33-16
Black Sole (Angler's Senses) : 7-240-33-11 (Reduction of 5)

Nebimonite (Normal) : 11-120-30-15
Nebimonite (Angler's Senses) : 11-120-30-10 (Reduction of 5)

Noble Lady (Normal) : 9-220-30-15
Noble Lady (Angler's Senses) : 9-220-30-10 (Reduction of 5)

Emperor Fish (Normal) : 5-260-36-18
Emperor Fish (Angler's Senses) : 5-260-36-12 (Reduction of 6)

Icefish x1 (Normal) : 5-200-38-19
Icefish x1 (Angler's Senses) : 5-200-38-13 (Reduction of 6)

Icefish x2 (Normal) : 5-220-38-19
Icefish x2 (Angler's Senses) : 5-220-38-13 (Reduction of 6)

Icefish x3 (Normal) : 6-240-38-19
Icefish x3 (Angler's Senses) : 6-240-38-13 (Reduction of 6)

Cone Calamary x1 (Normal) : 12-120-40-20
Cone Calamary x1 (Angler's Senses) : 12-120-40-14 (Reduction of 6)

Cone Calamary x2 (Normal) : 13-120-40-20
Cone Calamary x2 (Angler's Senses) : 13-120-40-14 (Reduction of 6)

Cone Calamary x3 (Normal) : 14-140-40-20
Cone Calamary x3 (Angler's Senses) : 14-140-40-14 (Reduction of 6)

Gigant Squid (Normal) : 7-200-43-21
Gigant Squid (Angler's Senses) : 7-200-43-14 (Reduction of 7)

Hakuryu (Normal) : 4-260-37-24
Hakuryu (Angler's Senses) : 4-260-37-16 (Reduction of 8)

Titanictus (Normal) : 6-280-42-31
Titanictus (Angler's Senses) : 6-280-42-21 (Reduction of 10)

Ryugu Titan (Normal) : 2-300-120-81
Ryugu Titan (Angler's Senses) : 2-300-120-56 (Reduction of 25)

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Other ID's I have not gone back to find the Angler's Senses for:
Items with a (*) at the end are off of Exiled fishing list DB and I will have to confirm them before I remove it

Pipira (Normal) : 8-300-11-5*
Lakerda (Normal) : 7-260-16-8*
Giant Donko (Normal) : 15-160-17-8*
Moat Carp (Normal) : 12-200-16-8*
Monke-Onke (Normal) : 12-180-17-8*
Shining Trout (Normal) : 7-240-16-8*
Tricolored Carp (Normal) : 14-260-19-9
Gold Carp (Normal) : 12-300-18-9
Blindfish (Normal) : 8-180-18-9*
King Perch (Normal) : 10-160-19-9 (off of Urat's list, I will have to go confirm this)
Three-eyed Fish (Normal) : 11-180-22-11
Dark Bass (Normal) : 9-180-23-11
Copper Frog (Normal) : 10-100-22-11*
Pelazoea (Normal) : 6-240-22-11*
Muddy Siredon (Normal) : 14-240-23-11*
Uskumru (Normal) : 6-260-24-12*
Elshimo Frog (Normal) : 9-120-25-12*
Crayfish (Normal) : 15-140-24-12*
Blowfish (Normal) : 9-180-25-12*
Crocodilos (Normal) : 3-260-25-12*
Elshimo Newt (Normal) : 7-200-26-13*
Jungle Catfish (Normal) : 7-240-26-13*
Red Terrapin (Normal) : 10-120-28-14
Ogre Eel (Normal) : 15-240-29-14*
Crescent Fish (Normal) : 9-180-28-14*
Grimmonite (Normal) : 9-140-31-15*
Tavnazian Goby ( Normal) : 9-180-30-15*
Mercanbaligi (Normal) : 9-200-31-15*
Zebra Eel (Normal) : 12-260-32-16*
Gold Lobster (Normal) : 6-80-35-17*
Istakoz (Normal) : 6-80-35-17*
Sandfish x1 (Normal) : 5-220-36-18*
Sandfish x2 (Normal) : 5-240-36-18*
Sandfish x3 (Normal) : 6-260-36-18*
Takitaro (Normal) : 4-280-27-18*
Kalamar (Normal) : 12-120-40-20*
Gigant Octopus (Normal) : 4-220-27-20 (off of Urat's list, I will have to go confirm this)
Armored Pisces (Normal) : 6-260-33-24*
Pterygotus (Normal) : 9-140-39-29*
Gugrusaurus (Normal) : 7-100-43-32* (Hmmmm....)
Kokuryu (Normal) : 5-160-54-36 (off of Urat's list, I will have to go confirm this)
Lik (Normal) : 3-280-72-48*
Soryu (Normal) : 13-60-49-100 (off of Urat's list, I will have to go confirm this)

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Items:

Rusty Kunai (Item) : 15-60-16-8*
Rusty Spear (Item) : 15-60-17-8
Rusty Bucket (Item) : 15-60-19-9
Arrowwood Log (Item) : 15-60-18-9
Rusty Subligar (Item) : 15-60-22-11
Pamtam Kelp (Item) : 15-60-24-12
Rusty Leggings (Item) : 15-60-26-13
Cobalt Jellyfish (Item) : 15-20-28-14 (Every item but this has a 2nd ID of 60... why is this an item from the new messages but it is 20?)
Norg Shell (Item) : 15-60-31-15*
Ripped Cap (Item) : 15-60-36-18
1 gil (Item) : 15-60-33-18
Rusty Cap (Item) : 15-60-38-19*
Copper Ring (Item) : 15-60-40-20
Bugbear Mask (Item) : 15-60-42-21*
Rusty Pick (Item) : 15-60-47-23*
Coral Fragment (Item) : 15-60-47-23*
Rusty Greatsword (Item) : 15-60-57-28*
Mythril Dagger (Item) : 15-60-78-39*

Monsters:

(Monster) : 10-300-17-8
(Monster) : 12-300-15-7
(Monster) : 11-300-16-8
(Monster) : 15-300-16-8
(Monster) : 9-300-19-9
(Monster) : 10-300-18-9*
(Monster) : 15-300-19-9*

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Also was doing some testing before about the different rods:

Sorted By Fishing Rod

Spoiler: show

Sorted By Fish

Spoiler: show

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 14:33

I've been noticing something...

ID1 = The aggressiveness of the monster. Basically the lower the number the more rappid the rod moves back and forth. Just look at Ryugu Titan. Perfect example of this. Now look at things that you know are slower like Pamtam Kelp, its at a 15. In fact I don't see anything above 15...

ID2 = No freaking clue

ID3 = Same with #2

ID4 = The amount of HP the fish recovers when you push the rod the wrong way. The higher the number the faster the rate of recovery.

**shaddix** · 2011-05-11 16:13

I am getting critical bite on haku, not the strength message. It says your keen anglers senses so and so

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 16:28

wow nice Shaddix, what all do you have to get up to that level? what furnishings and stuff

**shaddix** · 2011-05-11 16:30

I do have ebisu and 100 fishing, those other items were my gf's character's ebisu. I have only stall and stockfish, smock, ah hands feet legs, testimony lol.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 16:38

O.O what does stockfish do?

**shaddix** · 2011-05-11 16:43

I don't know lol.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 16:49

Just bought one

it gives Moghancement: Water

**shaddix** · 2011-05-11 18:01

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2629723/haku.jpg

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 20:02

Very cool, just can't figure out what you have that is different than what I have.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 20:03

Fishing really needs its own forum section instead of just 1 topic! D:

**shaddix** · 2011-05-11 20:11

I've only gotten 2 so far out of like 70 hakuryu

I think I was just getting lucky with the minnows at first..... I'm switching between sinking and regular and so far sinking is winning.... gonna do another two hours on sinking and then another hour on normal minnow and see what my data says.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 22:59

Yea sinking minnows always win.

You get like 3 extra fish on the line (Cone Calamary, Bluetail, Giant Squid (plus all the Angler Senses versions as well)) with minnows which takes up valuable spots for sinking minnow. I've done some pretty heavy testing between the two on wiki (not by any means perfect but still) and sinking minnow has a huge lead.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-11 23:06

BTW, Angler's Senses cant help you determine the number of fish on the line:

http://kalilla.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/123432.jpg

Just figured it was something worth saying

**Kalila** · 2011-05-12 00:46

Spoiler: show

Value - RoundDown(Value × 7%)

So basically Angler's Senses reduces the stamina recovery of fish by 30%

Reduction of 1 : 1 - 3
Reduction of 2 : 4 - 6
Reduction of 3 : 7 - 10
Reduction of 4 : 11 - 13
Reduction of 5 : 14 - 16
Reduction of 6 : 17 - 20
Reduction of 7 : 21 - 23
Reduction of 8 : 24 - 26
Reduction of 9 : 27 - 30
Reduction of 10 : 31 - 33
Reduction of 11 : 34 - 36
Reduction of 12 : 37 - 40
Reduction of 13 : 41 - 43
Reduction of 14 : 44 - 46
Reduction of 15 : 47 - 50
Reduction of 16 : 51 - 53
Reduction of 17 : 54 - 56
Reduction of 18 : 57 - 60
Reduction of 19 : 61 - 63
Reduction of 20 : 64 - 66
Reduction of 21 : 67 - 70
Reduction of 22 : 71 - 73
Reduction of 23 : 74 - 76
Reduction of 24 : 77 - 80
Reduction of 25 : 81 - 83
Reduction of 26 : 84 - 86
Reduction of 27 : 87 - 90
Reduction of 28 : 91 - 93
Reduction of 29 : 94 - 96
Reduction of 30 : 97 - 100

**nibu** · 2011-05-12 01:38

Highly doubtful that they would sneak something like this in, but with all the changes in dynamis lately, I wonder if they added anything that could be fished up (items or otherwise).

Food for thought.

**Kalila** · 2011-05-12 02:02

I think we would of known about a new fishy in the dats :O

**shaddix** · 2011-05-12 02:16

Originally Posted by Kalila

So far with Angler's Senses I've found this information:

For ID4 btw

Reduction of 1 : ? - ?
Reduction of 2 : 1? - 6/7?
Reduction of 3 : 7/8? - 10
Reduction of 4 : 11 - 13/14?
Reduction of 5 : 14/15? - 16/17?
Reduction of 6 : 17/18? - 20
Reduction of 7 : 21 - ?

I notice for the max of reduction 3 and the max of reduction 6 are both 10 and 20

So... maybe 3 = 10, 6 = 20, 9 = 30, 12 = 40, 15 = 50, 18 = 60, 21 = 60, 24 = 70, 27 = 80, 30 = 90, 33 = 100?

I'll find out soon enough

If i were to make a guess though, I would guess 3>4>3 and repeat over and over... but it is only a guess :X

can you explain this to me I really have no idea what you're saying lol

**Kalila** · 2011-05-12 02:27

Take a look at my fish list at the top, the last ID

http://www.bluegartr.com/threads/493...=1#post4591940

BTW:

Hakuryu (Normal) : 4-260-37-24
Hakuryu (Angler's Senses) : 4-260-37-16 (Reduction of 8)

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