Fishing

[barber2006]

Apparantly the Field Rope drops from brown caskets in Zurhn Mines. This makes me think there is a stronger possibility that the fishing/chocobo items also come from brown caskets in different zones.

[nibu]

Apparantly the Field Rope drops from brown caskets in Zurhn Mines. This makes me think there is a stronger possibility that the fishing/chocobo items also come from brown caskets in different zones.

Thanks! Deshin (Ceberus) reported finding a Field Rope in Dangruf Wadi, so it's possible that the 6 new ropes/torques can be found in any of the newly-implemented brown caskets.

[Kalila]

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Been looking at Ryugu Titan's ID numbers and realized something, again. Everytime I use a bot it reels them in extreamly fast which tells me that the HP reduction is fast. I know when I fish normally it is challenging but when I think about it it is only challenging because of the speed of the rod going back and forth. So I looked at fish I know take a while to reel in. I know fish early on like Quus still take just as long to reel in as it did back when I was skilling off of them.

Back then I figured I would be able to reel them in faster. That wasn't the case and I see why now.

Ryugu Titan (Normal) : 2-300-120-81
Quus x1 (Normal) : 9-240-12-6

The 3rd number is a huge difference.

The first number explains 1 part of the story. Quus's number is almost 5 times higher and would make sense that it is 5 times slower going back and forth.

Not really sure what the 2nd number means, I notice changes but I'll look into it later.

The 3rd number is what this post is mainly about. For Ryugu Titan it is 120 and Quus it is 12. This explains a lot now. The higher the number the faster the HP reduction of the fish. If you ever had a bot take down a Ryugu Titan for you, one that doesn't make mistakes, it can pull one in incredibly fast that no human could do. None the less it is still pulling it in fast.

Now I know Black Sole can take a long time to pull in, around 15-20 sec.

Black Sole (Normal) : 7-240-33-16
Quus x1 (Normal) : 9-240-12-6

The rate of the rod going back and forth is reduced making it faster. the 240 is the same for some reason, again I don't know what it means yet. The HP reduction is faster but more challenging to reel in because how fast the rod is moving. And the last numbers are of course the HP recovery pushing the rod the wrong way.

So...
(--------ID1------------) - (-ID2-) - (------ID3--------) - (------ID4)-------)
Speed of the rod changing - ?????? - Rate of HP reduction - Rate of HP recovery
(Lower = Faster)............. - ?????? - (Higher = Faster).... - (Higher = Faster)

NVM~ I was wrong >.>

[urat]

Thanks! Deshin (Ceberus) reported finding a Field Rope in Dangruf Wadi, so it's possible that the 6 new ropes/torques can be found in any of the newly-implemented brown caskets.

Fisher's rope drops in shakrahami, Prouess ring drops in Zeruhn.

[shaddix]

Spoiler: show

Been looking at Ryugu Titan's ID numbers and realized something, again. Everytime I use a bot it reels them in extreamly fast which tells me that the HP reduction is fast. I know when I fish normally it is challenging but when I think about it it is only challenging because of the speed of the rod going back and forth. So I looked at fish I know take a while to reel in. I know fish early on like Quus still take just as long to reel in as it did back when I was skilling off of them.

Back then I figured I would be able to reel them in faster. That wasn't the case and I see why now.

Ryugu Titan (Normal) : 2-300-120-81
Quus x1 (Normal) : 9-240-12-6

The 3rd number is a huge difference.

The first number explains 1 part of the story. Quus's number is almost 5 times higher and would make sense that it is 5 times slower going back and forth.

Not really sure what the 2nd number means, I notice changes but I'll look into it later.

The 3rd number is what this post is mainly about. For Ryugu Titan it is 120 and Quus it is 12. This explains a lot now. The higher the number the faster the HP reduction of the fish. If you ever had a bot take down a Ryugu Titan for you, one that doesn't make mistakes, it can pull one in incredibly fast that no human could do. None the less it is still pulling it in fast.

Now I know Black Sole can take a long time to pull in, around 15-20 sec.

Black Sole (Normal) : 7-240-33-16
Quus x1 (Normal) : 9-240-12-6

The rate of the rod going back and forth is reduced making it faster. the 240 is the same for some reason, again I don't know what it means yet. The HP reduction is faster but more challenging to reel in because how fast the rod is moving. And the last numbers are of course the HP recovery pushing the rod the wrong way.

So...
(--------ID1------------) - (-ID2-) - (------ID3--------) - (------ID4)-------)
Speed of the rod changing - ?????? - Rate of HP reduction - Rate of HP recovery
(Lower = Faster)............. - ?????? - (Higher = Faster).... - (Higher = Faster)

NVM~ I was wrong >.>

So are you saying quus have 10 times the stamina of a ryugu titan?

And the reason the angler's senses reduction is not exactly 30% in your chart is because it is floored. It chops the decimal off. ID4*.7 is true for all values, even those below 10

[Kalila]

Na....... said i was wrong lol, but I do know that the HP bar goes down faster with titan's vs quus and black sole, its just ryugu titan's are incredibly aggressive making them seem the total opposite.

[Kalila]

Oh....... your right, I didn't floor any of them.

[Kalila]

I don't deny that the equation is wrong, I just must be doing the math wrong when it comes to the % reduction.

[shaddix]

Maybe rod speed is the 3rd number and stamina drain is the first?

normal ID4 = 44
angler ID4 44*.7=30.8=30

normal ID4 = 2
angler ID4 = 2*.7=1.4=1

Does normal ID4 of 5 really give a 2 with angler's senses? If so then 70% wouldn't be true. It should be 5*.7=3.5=3

[Kalila]

Oh lmao.... It's because I was rounding down the reduction variable and trying to use that for the %

I feel so dumb haha

[Kalila]

I have actually been thinking about the ID1 and ID3 thing, just haven't had time to go over it because of abyssea

[Kalila]

There is only 1 fish that even has an ID4 # of 5, I haven't got to it yet but I would think so

[Kalila]

YYea, I'm going to change ID1 to stamina reduction rate and ID3 to speed the rod moves

[Babu]

Just a few quick questions to the veteran anglers out there. Is fishing to 100 prioritizing skillups always best to use Lu rod for any targets? Also, I know I'm probably prolonging the inevitable, but how realistic is this to accomplish without having to level up WW for rod repairs? Is it realistic to complete skill 30-100 in 4 months if I'm spending ~3 hours a day at the docks?

Please forgive me if it's been mentioned somewhere, but have there been any updated guides in regards to fishing for skill recently? Most of the guides I've come across suggest fishing far beyond my skill level and seem to sacrifice fast skillups for resale value.

[Kalila]

I got ebisu without WW, it is 100% realistic. It just comes down to how determined you are and how much you love fishing.

As for your fishing guide problem, I swear by this:

http://www.finalfishing.com/Guide.aspx

Sure, its old. Sure its long. Sure some stuff doesn't apply anymore. But when it comes down to it it is a guide that was made with hard work and effort and the locations still apply even today. It was the guide thousands of players used and it worked for me. I still even look at some parts of it today because it is so interesting to me.

[Babu]

I got ebisu without WW, it is 100% realistic. It just comes down to how determined you are and how much you love fishing.

Thank you for your response and also for the work you're doing here. Much appreciated. Hope these coming updates address the login issues some of us are having so I can actually get started again.

[Kalila]

I was having login issues, but i got it working after hitting the reset button on my router.

[shaddix]

Just work towards ebisu and don't worry about skill. Fish in nashmau/talacca to fund your ebisu fish and you will probably skill up to 78 before you get both items anyway.

[Kalila]

I would agree with that, or if you have a friend that does have ebisu that you could possibly get a better price for the fish it is so worth having.

I'm not sure how much faster ebisu would give you skillups since I got level 100 fishing on PS2 with lu years ago. But if you got ebisu and fished ebisu fish / hakuryu or w/e I'm sure you'd get so many skillups a day

not to mention the amazing gil flow~

[shaddix]

Wow what did you fish to hit 100 with lu shang? If I never got ebisu I think I would probably be sitting at 96 skill indefinitely lol.