Fishing

[nitsuj]

Just for clarification, I don't know how you guys are gathering your ID's but... Here are the two Ebisu ID #'s I have, in order of ID1 - ID2 - ID3 - ID4.

Also, these numbers (I think just ID4) can change based on moglification etc factors. But ID1/2/3 are in the proper order, that way we don't have people talking about ID1/ID2/ID3 in a different order.

260-37-4-24
260-37-4-16

[shaddix]

Is the 3rd number in your example the first one in previous discussions up til now?

@nibu: I can see how it would increase demand for ebisu. AH history must really be deceiving, I was reading in this thread about the prices people were charging for the fish, and that 20k was gouging. Could be true on lik, but I can't sell these things for 10 when I paid 25k/each for mine.. Whereas on gugs I think 20k/fish is quite fair taking into account the effort and time it takes to get them. If there were no hakuryu, I would probably sell ebisu fish down to 15k, but with haks around, I will never let them go for less than 20k.

[Kalila]

Just for clarification, I don't know how you guys are gathering your ID's but... Here are the two Ebisu ID #'s I have, in order of ID1 - ID2 - ID3 - ID4.

Also, these numbers (I think just ID4) can change based on moglification etc factors. But ID1/2/3 are in the proper order, that way we don't have people talking about ID1/ID2/ID3 in a different order.

How can I know for sure? There is only one bot out there that shows it in that order, the rest shows it in the order I presented so I've always assumed Exiled just was displaying them improperly.

I've confirmed mine with Fish Fighter and Iocaine too.

It just seems weird that exiled is the only one that displays it how you put it but no one else follows

[Yekyaa]

It has something to do with the way FFACE does it. FishFighter was the standard and RZN mixed up the ID order for some reason. Ever since, to make the fish.ini list compatible with other bots, they just matched up the ID order (which is wrong)...

Exiled and nits are the only two using ID1>4 in the proper order (according to the info FFACE has been pulling for the past few years). I just think RZN made a mistake and by the time he had a whole bunch of fish in the list it was too late.
My 2 cents.

[Kalila]

Really... thank you for the very informative reply Yekyaa. I will start doing that

[shaddix]

What if the name of the particular fish is not contained in the 4 numbers? Does the client know what fish you are reeling in before you catch it? Or does it only know those 4 numbers and thus how to present the fishing minigame to you? The server would still know what fish it is no matter if the client does or not.

What are other attributes of the fishing minigame? HP regen, HP depletion rate, Rod swing craziness. Fourth one is???? autodeplete value? Could autodepletion be different for each fish? Can we compare the same fish on different rods? Might provide some clues.

[urat]

What if the name of the particular fish is not contained in the 4 numbers? Does the client know what fish you are reeling in before you catch it? Or does it only know those 4 numbers and thus how to present the fishing minigame to you? The server would still know what fish it is no matter if the client does or not.

What are other attributes of the fishing minigame? HP regen, HP depletion rate, Rod swing craziness. Fourth one is???? autodeplete value? Could autodepletion be different for each fish? Can we compare the same fish on different rods? Might provide some clues.

This actually makes sense. The game itself holds the fish IDs for behavior and we just assume we know what fish it is, when in reality the fish is stored server side.

Thus when we hit enter, the game sends a reel in packet with fish's hp, and the server decidedes if our line snaps, etc.

Otherwise we could simply change the IDs ourselves via memlocs and force what fish we catch.

[logiq]

Otherwise we could simply change the IDs ourselves via memlocs and force what fish we catch.

Way back in the day I think you could do this actually.

The name is not stored in the fishing structure, or if it is I cannot see it. In my applications, and I'd assume some others, the name is retrieved by parsing the chatlog after the fish is caught. Then the app saves the fish name and associates it with the ID of the fish that was on the line.

[nitsuj]

Way back in the day I think you could do this actually.

The name is not stored in the fishing structure, or if it is I cannot see it. In my applications, and I'd assume some others, the name is retrieved by parsing the chatlog after the fish is caught. Then the app saves the fish name and associates it with the ID of the fish that was on the line.

the name would never be stored in local memory. If anything, it would be a string_id that would be compared to a localized string database to get the actual name.

[logiq]

the name would never be stored in local memory. If anything, it would be a string_id that would be compared to a localized string database to get the actual name.

That's basically what I've always believed / said. Thanks for the validation.

[shaddix]

It's true, you can't catch any fish on the very south end of the cliff in BCD.

edit: how big a grimmonite do you think I need to win pelican ring?

[Kalila]

Yea I noticed that a few weeks ago, it is quite strange.

On another note I did a personal best of 93 hakuryu in 1 day. I'd say it took probably 8 hours

[Kalila]

Just started to do MMM runs for the rings so I can test them against the ID's. Hopefully it won't take too long to get them

[Kalila]

Sooo yea, I traded my Brigand's Chart today since I've been working on getting that other ring.

Traded it and casted mine line and instantly froze. Now I can't cancel to get out of animation, move, or anything. HP was regening though. Have had my fishing rod out for maybe 20 minutes now waiting for a stupid GM to come (had to have someone else make the call).

[urat]

Sooo yea, I traded my Brigand's Chart today since I've been working on getting that other ring.

Traded it and casted mine line and instantly froze. Now I can't cancel to get out of animation, move, or anything. HP was regening though. Have had my fishing rod out for maybe 20 minutes now waiting for a stupid GM to come (had to have someone else make the call).

Something terrible catches the line!!!
You have a sinking feeling about this catch...
You are frozen with terror!

[nibu]

Sooo yea, I traded my Brigand's Chart today since I've been working on getting that other ring.

Traded it and casted mine line and instantly froze. Now I can't cancel to get out of animation, move, or anything. HP was regening though. Have had my fishing rod out for maybe 20 minutes now waiting for a stupid GM to come (had to have someone else make the call).

Super effective anti-bot measure. You fell right into their trap!

[shaddix]

[17:21:30]ü[17:21:30] Irmilant : It is complete.
[17:21:30]ü[17:21:30] I must thank you for this chance to create such a masterpiece.
[17:21:30]Irmilant : This fishing rod will never break or splinter...
[17:21:30]ü[17:21:30] Irmilant : This fishing rod will never break or splinter...
[17:21:32]Obtained: Ebisu fishing rod.

Funny thing is I sent my leftover lik from when I went 1/4 to a buddy and he went 1/10 on them haha.


My buddy who is level 47 fishing+AH equip saying he got a critical bite on an ahtapot.

[Kalila]

btw, timed out after 30 minutes of waiting and made a GM call myself... and guess what

Typical message explaining what a GM does and gave me a URL to learn about their staff.

-.-~ makes it so hard to not say something really mean as a report back~

[Kalila]

I need to know a good fish to level off of at level 38, friend is struggling to level and I can't even remember what I was doing back then and if it still even the same now

[cdgreg]

Istiridye with robber or rogue rig in Nashmau.


Question @ all the ID testing. Does the ID change at all based on your skill level in comparison to the fish? We know that at various levels above or below the fish either regens, is stagnant, or naturally depletes. Is this reflected in the ID at all?