Fishing

**Buffy** · 2013-04-24 05:57

Can we please not have a ten page discussion on obtaining bait for botters again?

**dasva** · 2013-04-24 06:21

Originally Posted by Tokenr

9K the stack of Fire Crystals and 35K Glass Fiber on my server... If you spend hours to farm those, you could as well camp the fish guilds for Minnows

Think you over estimate how long it would take. Can easily farm a stack of clusters in an hour and usually farm enough lanterns to make 300+ fibers in about 1.5 hours (while making a bit off of dark rings). Given how bad it is here that's probably more bait then I could get camping the guilds 24/7 sometimes

**vagus** · 2013-04-24 10:11

Oh man. I might start farming lanterns. I need dark rings.

So have all the new fishes been found in the new areas? So odd to see 2 large ponds in Sih Gates and no one fishing them. Lol.

**dejet** · 2013-04-26 18:10

I fished for the first time in forever Used about 6 stacks of sardine balls on hakuryu. I got 19 in about an hour. After that I used up all 6 stacks of bait without what seems to be a bite. What gives lol?

Cast: 1528
Caught:19
Released:581
Lost catch:10
No Bite:921
Line break: 10

This is crazy. Iv never seen it that bad, is this how sardine balls are? because if so ugh that was 200k made and I spent like 50k making the damn bait due to earth crystal prices.

**Corkadile** · 2013-04-26 18:43

921 no bites? Something is very wrong here.

**dasva** · 2013-04-26 18:53

Almost sounds like something weird happened. Like I know sometimes fishing or crafting my character will just space out. I can move it and stuff but can't do cast or use jas or fish or synth and if you look on another character it looks like I'm fishing. And there are no you can't fish commands it just doesn't do anything and so it will often count all of those as no bites

**dejet** · 2013-04-26 18:56

well i plan to try it again tonight. I have no clue, looking back at the chat log it does not seem I saw any !!! at all for nearly 7 hours O.o. Something went really wrong lol

**dasva** · 2013-04-26 19:00

Did you get other messages during that time?

**dejet** · 2013-04-26 20:21

Originally Posted by dasva

Did you get other messages during that time?

part of the log. I did get a random invite from someone as well... no /tell or anything Dont think that should of had this effect.
edit: to give you an example of how bad it was, I had to cut off a chunk of the logs as it breaks the 100,000 limit of the forum LOL

Spoiler: show

**Guitarman** · 2013-04-26 20:30

just seems like RNG bent you over, really. I've had horrible streaks too. 50 lures have gotten me as much as 110 fish before my inv filled, to as low as 40.

**dejet** · 2013-04-26 20:44

I would of been happy with 40 QQ LOL but my first cast was at 6:43:45 and my last was 19:03:56 That is 13 hours 40min for 19 fish. plan to craft up more bait on my mule and try again.

By the way whats the damn cap for BS? I had my mule fish up 649, I guess small fish do not cap at 200?

**dasva** · 2013-04-26 21:14

Yeah that was like 1% biterate and there was no extraordinary long streaks of no catches.

As far as caps they've messed with it a couple of times and Ebisu lets you catch more. But like last time I did lu shangs my mules still got 200 cap each day. I think it might be different if you get multiple on a line at a time.

Did you actually reel in all those fish in 1 real day for sure though? No switching jp midnights and such

**dejet** · 2013-04-26 21:20

Originally Posted by dasva

Yeah that was like 1% biterate and there was no extraordinary long streaks of no catches.

As far as caps they've messed with it a couple of times and Ebisu lets you catch more. But like last time I did lu shangs my mules still got 200 cap each day. I think it might be different if you get multiple on a line at a time.

Did you actually reel in all those fish in 1 real day for sure though? No switching jp midnights and such

ya it did hit JP day reset, and it was no one at a time. so might have to do with a combo of both that the 200 cap only would apply to each fish, thus it could really be 600 if you landed 3x each time.

**Zeroth** · 2013-04-26 23:27

Could somoene please explain to me how minnows and sinking minnows have a different synth level when sinking are just the HQ of minnow?
I'm just trying to find out what level alch/gold have be in order to be be T3+ on them.

Edit: I'm talking about with gold sub it's showing only lv 2 for minnow and 11 for sinking using copper.

**Michelob** · 2013-04-27 00:01

Originally Posted by Zeroth

Could somoene please explain to me how minnows and sinking minnows have a different synth level when sinking are just the HQ of minnow?
I'm just trying to find out what level alch/gold have be in order to be be T3+ on them.

Edit: I'm talking about with gold sub it's showing only lv 2 for minnow and 11 for sinking using copper.

You need to go back and re-read your source. Both recipes are for minnows with HQ results being sinkers.

**Zeroth** · 2013-04-27 00:15

I guess it sounds confusing the way I asked the question.
ok off the ffxiclopedia page for minnows: Alchemy (31), Goldsmithing (2) using copper ingot.
For sinking minnow: Alchemy (31), Goldsmithing (11) also copper ingot.

Also when I go to BG Wiki:
Main Craft: Alchemy - (31)
Sub Craft(s): Goldsmithing - (14)

I'm under the impression that you would need to have both the main and subcraft 51+ levels above the level of the craft for HQ T3+?
According to both sites they each have conflicting information, I'm just trying to clarify which one is accurate.

**dasva** · 2013-04-27 00:43

They are the same recipe ffxiclopedia is just being dumb like usual. Honestly no idea if it's 2 11 or 14 because in the end it doesn't matter much since the sub can be gotten to T3 without it being your main easily. But it is certainly not different for minnow and sinking minnow. The only time that would be different is for completely different recipes. And yes your tier is determined by the most limiting craft so yes both. Just lvl your subs fully and avoid the headache of wondering if you are high enough or not.

**Zeroth** · 2013-04-27 01:08

alright cool, thanks.

**cdgreg** · 2013-04-27 10:17

Look more closely, one uses brass ingot, the other:
http://wiki.ffxiclopedia.org/wiki/Minnow

If the sinking minnow page is wrong then so be it, but that should be more accurate.

**Zeroth** · 2013-04-27 19:21

Yeah I saw that there are 2 different crafts for Minnows, it's just looking at sinking minnows was confusing me.

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