Fishing

[mutiny]

How much interest is there in fishing and fishing related information nowadays? I always have an interest in data related stuff, so I've been digging around lately. I think I may have found a method to determine fish's level within 0-1 levels. For example:

Ryugu Titan = 150 or 151
Hakuryu = 146 or 147
Titanictus = 100 or 101

Titanictus can be verified now purely by skilling because of 110, but I don't think other higher level fish can be otherwise determined. The info might also relate to fish auto-regen/auto-depletion, and may or may not refute some proposals such as Ebisu giving +46 skill. I have found that in cases people have been testing where Ebisu causes auto-depletion, where the fish stamina is stagnant without, I have noticed that advanced fishing support or smock (apron too maybe? don't have to test) may cause the same effect. This could mean there is a hidden parameter in smock/ebisu/fishing support related to stamina depletion rather than just fishing skill increase. Further testing would be required. Anyways, rather than make a duplicate post, I made a reply about the parameters on DSPT forums under development -> resources -> fish packet information (but I can't link with my post count, maybe someone else can.)

[urat]

Yeah, moon phase and weather actually effect fishing, to a noticeable degree. I think all it really seems to effect directly is the odds of getting the "You didnt catch anything" message.

There are NPCs in game that even confirm that rainy weather and full moon increase bite rates.

Unlike the rest of crafting, fishing drops a lot of hints from npcs directly, none of that handwaving bullshit. Some types of fish have higher bite rates during night time, for example. Other fish bite like crazy during certain types of weather. The NPCs at the fishing guild bring this up. There's lots of variables in fishing that are actually in game confirmed.

Other examples include the fact that wooden rods deplete fish HP more/faster, synthetic rods will have higher stamina. Though I think that was removed on the arrow fishing update, since I just have a pretty static amount of time on the line now for all fish except matsya, who has half the line time.

[Kyreth]

Lol moon phase and fishing.

Um, that's straight from S-E.

So apparently, moon phases DO have an actual effect on fishing. Although actually figuring it out is likely right up there with ebon panels.

[urat]

Um, that's straight from S-E.

So apparently, moon phases DO have an actual effect on fishing. Although actually figuring it out is likely right up there with ebon panels.

Based on NPCs hints, brady guide old info (which was given to them by SE reps), and personal experience, Im pretty sure fuller moon size lowers chance of "you didnt catch anything" messages.

They're much less frequent during full moon, and full moon+rain has pretty low chance of not getting a bite.

[urat]

New Zaldon fish! Time to start catching em and trying to trade them in!

Also, catching 100 different fish is a PREREQUISITE to start the Ebisu quest, looks like there will be even more work to be done to upgrade the ebisu!

[urat]

Compiled a list of all pre update fish and zones you can catch them in, for anyone going after the ebisu upgrade:

Greedie - Selbina
Fat Greedie - Selbina
Zafmlug Bass - Selbina
Bastore Sardine - Selbina
Tiger Cod - Port Jeuno
Nosteau Herring - Port Jeuno
Giant Donko - Rabao
Sandfish - Rabao
Gavial Fish - Western Altep
Copper Frog - Bastok Mines
Nebimonite - Ferry
Gugru Tuna - Ferry
Cone Calamary - Ferry
Cobalt Jellyfish - Ferry
Bhefhel Marlin - Ferry
Noble Lady - Ferry
Bluetail - Ferry
Silver Shark - Ferry
Titanictus - Ferry
Ryugu Titan - Ferry
Sea Zombie - Ferry (Zombies)
Veydal Wrasse - Open Sea Route
Lakerda - Open Sea Route
Gurnard - Open Sea Route
Uskumru - Open Sea Route
Mola Mola - Open Sea Route
Gugrusaurus - Open Sea Route
Kilicbaligi - Silver Sea
Kalkanbaligi - Silver Sea
Hamsi - Whitegate
Kalamar - Whitegate
Denizanasi - Whitegate
Tiny Goldfish - al Zhabi
Yilanbaligi - Al Zhabi
Sazanbaligi - Al Zhabi
Kayabaligi - Al Zhabi
Istiridye - Nashmau
Pterygotus - Nashmau
Turnabaligi - Wajaom
Alabaligi -Wajaom
Istavrit - Talacca Cove
Istakoz - Talacca Cove
Mercanbaligi - Talacca
Dil - Talacca
Ahtapot - Talacca
Moorish Idol - Manaclipper
Bibikibo - Manaclipper
Bladefish - Manaclipper
Titanic Sawfish - Manaclipper (Maliy Reef)
Vongola Clam - Purgonorgo
Shall Shell - Purgonorgo
Trilobite - Purgonorgo
Phanauet Newt - Carpenters Landing
Muddy Siredon - Carpenters Landing
Shining Trout - Carpenters Landing
Forest Carp - Yuhtunga
Pipira - Yuhtunga
Elshimo Frog - Yuhtunga
Monke-Onke - Yuhtunga
Elshimo Newt - Yuhtunga
Crescent Fish - Yuhtunga
Jungle Catfish - Yuhtunga
Grimmonite - Sea Serpent Grotto
Crystal Bass - Jugner (crystal Spring)
Cheval Salmon - East Ronfaure
Blindfish - Movalpolos
Black Eel - Movalpolos
Armored Pisces - Movalpolos
Caedarva Frog - Caedarva Mire
Yayinbaligi - Caedarva
Kaplumbaga - Caedarva
Black Ghost - Caedarva
Coral Butterfly - Kazham
Icefish - Beaucedine
Tricolored Carp - Vunkerl Lake
Red Terrapi - Vunkerl Lake
Trumpet Shell - Vunkerl
Gigant Octopus - Vunkerl
Garpike - Vunkerl
Bastore Bream - Vunkerl
Matsya - Vunkerl
Bastore Sweeper - Vunkerl
Quus - Vunkerl
Ogre Eel - Vunkerl
Gold Carp - Lufaise Meadows
Emperor Fish - Lufaise Meadows
Tavnazian Goby - Lufaise Meadows
Lik - Lufaise Meadows
Dark Bass - Misareaux Coast
Takitaro - Misareaux Coast
Rhinochimera - Arrapago
Morinabaligi - Arrapago
Zebra Eel - Den of Rancor
Gold Lobster - Den of Rancor
Betta - Mamook
Three-eyed Fish - Qufim
Gigant Squid - Qufim
Black Sole - Qufim
Yellow Globe - Qufim
Megalodon - Batallia (S)
Pirarucu - Grauberg (S)
Ca Cuong - Grauberg (S)
Brass Loach - Grauberg (S)
Gerrothorax - Passhow (S)
Abaia - Jugner (S)
Giant Chirai - Boyahda Tree
Giant Chirai - Boyahda Tree
Cave Cherax - Quicksand
Crocodilos - Abyssea La Theine
Blowfish - Abys La Theine
Dorado Gar - Abys La Theine
Pelazoea - Abys La Theine
Moat Carp - Abys La Theine
Crayfish - Abys La Theine
Giant Catfish - Abys La Theine
Hakuryu - Beaucedine
Soryu - Abys - Miseraux
Sekiryu - Abys - Altep
Kokuryu - Abys - Vunkerl
King Perch - Abys Vunkerl
Lungfish - Phanauet Channel
Tricorn - Phanauet Channel
Shen - Yahse
Duskcrawler - Escha

[urat]

New fish:

Ra'Kaznar Shellfish - ?
Mackerel - Senroh Sea?
Blacvk Prawn - ?
Thysanopeltis - ?
Senroh Frog - ?
Translucent salpa - ?
Yawning Catfish - ?
Malicious Perch - ?
White Lobster - ?
Bonefish - ?
Deademoiselle - ?
Yorchete - Yorcia
Apkallufa - Marjami
Clotflagration - Morimor?
Dragonfish - ?
Ruddy Seema - Foret de Hennetiel
Bloodblotch - Foret
Frigorifish - Iceplace
Dwarf Remora - ?
Tusoteuthis Longa - ?
Cameroceras - ?
Ancient Carp - Warm waters?
Phantom Serpent - ?
Quicksilver Blade - ?
Dragon's Tabernacle - ?
Lord of Ulbulka - hinterlands?

[Yeager]

I'm up to 50 types of fish caught thus far. Gonna head to bed now tho. There are new Records of Eminence quests that correspond to the types of fish you've caught. The first quest is 10 fish, then the next ones are 25, 50, and 75. I'm assuming the one after 75 is 100.

Rewards for catching 10 different types = Fisherman's Belt (the one that gives you HQ Fishing Guild support)
25 types of fish = Brigand's Chart
50 types of fish = Pirate's Chart

[Switchorz]

75 types is Lik x3

[urat]

75 types is Lik x3

Bet 100 fish is 3 gugs then... lol >_>;

Wonder if theres another quest after 100 fish, maybe we can go all the way to "catch all the fish"

Id like that.

[mijean]

started the lu shang quests before going for the multiple type for the ebisu one.

when i finished the reel endurance 1, i got 3 fisherman's feast, usable item described as containing some sort of foods, haven't tried using it yet in case these can be useful somewhere else, anyone did it ?

[Zetanio]

Welp. Time to start fishing again.

[Johnb]

started the lu shang quests before going for the multiple type for the ebisu one.

when i finished the reel endurance 1, i got 3 fisherman's feast, usable item described as containing some sort of foods, haven't tried using it yet in case these can be useful somewhere else, anyone did it ?

I used, but no idea on effect. Something to do with fishing I bet which is very hard to test.

[mijean]

I used, but no idea on effect. Something to do with fishing I bet which is very hard to test.

so it didn't just give you a couple of foods in your inventory ? i was expecting something like this

[Johnb]

no, just one food effect.

2500 fishing GP for finishing region: ronfaure

Anyone know ebisu requirements? similar to glowy lu shang's?

[mijean]

Be in possession of the Ebisu Fishing Rod
Have fished up at least 100 types of catches by one's own hand*
* Only catches reeled in after the June 2015 version update will be counted.
Have installed and registered the following content.

Rise of the Zilart / Chains of Promathia / Treasures of Aht Urhgan / Wings of the Goddess / Seekers of Adoulin / Scars of Abyssea

(from patch notes, that's why i start with the lu shang - glad i kept it - , i'm getting the 100 types while getting the 75 fish in each region ^^)

[Johnb]

That's just to start the quest though. What does the quest entail?

[mijean]

oh the details, no idea and it's gonna take some time before i get the 100 types of fish anyway lol

[urat]

oh the details, no idea and it's gonna take some time before i get the 100 types of fish anyway lol

I got 13 fish left to go, gimme another 30-40 mins and I should have the quest info for us.

[Switchorz]

100 fish is Gug x3 and you are challenged again

Weya Salmacha challenges you to beat her in catching a legendary fish. I had a Matsya on me and won. Dunno if you can lose.

It unlocks the option to ask about the new fish

Damn. For example: Phantom Serpent requires you to catch kokuryu, soryu, hakuryu and sekiryu. I'm guessing Zaldon will gut them by what he said and that bait is used to catch The Phantom Serpent. ughhh