Fishing

[tripnotic]

Think it would be entirely possible to get to 100 fishing skill without lushangs but obviously lushangs the best. Not really "LOL" worthy if someone doesn't have imo.

Concerning this, I just dinged 72 with Tavnazian Goby last night and I'm still fishing without lu shang.
I think, I'll try to continue to cap on Tavnazian Goby (75) but what next after that ?

I tried Bastore Bream (to cook them next) but got 3 line snaps in 25min (shrimp lure + halcyon rod). Shrimp lure is 5K on my server so It's not an option. It seems all fishes 75+ will break non-lu shang's rod or line.

Anyone has experience with fishing 70+ without lu shang's rod ?

I didn't started the quest for lu shang's rod and no money to buy it so my objective atm is to continue without.

(sorry if my english isn't correct)

[Arkangel]

Truth be told I'm not in a mad rush to get a lushangs, though I am working on it, I seem to get pirates charts every 10 fish, and since i have 10 marlin in inv. at the moment, I have been singling out Noble ladies, 10k stack, and getting decent skillups. I appreciate the advice, I just wish I could understand how at I was getting missed catches at 57 on fish that were only 5 above. No one did answer the idea that perhaps I am actually getting titans? (on pc) Until my skillups are directly affected I'm not gonna drop everything and go for Lus...I will be getting in the next 2-3 months if not less without much of an issue. And just because I am curious, and no website has given great information, is there any non lushangs or ebisus that can catch trumpets, I am only curious.... also breaking rods doesn't bother me, I can fix ww ones and I have a friend who can easily fix alc ones.

[Raineer]

No one did answer the idea that perhaps I am actually getting titans? (on pc)

You'd know if you were getting titans. If you hooked the fish at your level and didn't say JESUS CHRIST DID I JUST HOOK SOME KIND OF LION DOLPHIN ON AN IV OF RED BULL then it wasn't a titan.

[Geddoe]

Concerning this, I just dinged 72 with Tavnazian Goby last night and I'm still fishing without lu shang.
I think, I'll try to continue to cap on Tavnazian Goby (75) but what next after that ?

I tried Bastore Bream (to cook them next) but got 3 line snaps in 25min (shrimp lure + halcyon rod). Shrimp lure is 5K on my server so It's not an option. It seems all fishes 75+ will break non-lu shang's rod or line.

Anyone has experience with fishing 70+ without lu shang's rod ?

I didn't started the quest for lu shang's rod and no money to buy it so my objective atm is to continue without.

(sorry if my english isn't correct)

Bastore bream shouldn't be too difficult at your skill o.o. Perhaps try the toau version (mercanbaligi) in nashmau or Telocca cove but it'll prolly be same as bream for snap rate or Gavial fish in gusgen mines but they don't stack but can break halcyon and snap composite line but lure/bait is cheap. Also can do kayabaligi instead of tav goby in Al Zahbi if it's more convienent for you

[tripnotic]

Thank you for the advice, I think I'll try Gavial fish after 75.

I have no problem with Tavnazian Goby, my spot is near the outpost, It's easy to isolate this fish and the bit rate is decent.

[Suited Aces]

And just because I am curious, and no website has given great information, is there any non lushangs or ebisus that can catch trumpets, I am only curious....

Halcyon will catch them. Cancel all "!!!" and it won't break. If you're trying to fish them for profit though, I wouldn't recommend it, the bite rate is poor at best. You'll be lucky to get a stack and a half per hour.

[nitsuj]

75 in Nashmau (with Lu Shangs). Skillups have slowed substantially but I'm still chugging away at it!

[Juib]

Skillups have started slowing down for you? Thats a shame. I remember skillups stayed smooth for me, and maybe even got better, all the way up to 85

[Indalecia]

Pelican ring is something you really want at that point.

[Ruuz]

75 in Nashmau (with Lu Shangs). Skillups have slowed substantially but I'm still chugging away at it!

This is indeed an anomaly. For me fishing skillups didnt slow until 86 (when you cap on mercs). I just decided to bail for Qufim at 90 (when you cap on ahtapots). Now I'm in Tallaca till I get Serpent Rumors.

Got my two rings now btw. So I am all set once I get Rumors.

[evilpaul]

62 Fishing and Lu's...anywhere I can get a decent skill up rate? I'm mostly just fishing for profit in N. Qufim (squids), but would like to get up to 78 soon. I've tried Tallaca Cove, but get horrible bite rates and have a hard time reelling fish in without using an Albatross Ring.

[nitsuj]

62 Fishing and Lu's...anywhere I can get a decent skill up rate? I'm mostly just fishing for profit in N. Qufim (squids), but would like to get up to 78 soon. I've tried Tallaca Cove, but get horrible bite rates and have a hard time reelling fish in without using an Albatross Ring.

Nashmau with Shrimp Lure

[urat]

Finally got Serpent rumours the day I dinged 78, and have decided to start with liks since they're closer to zaldon and cave cherax a lot easier to go after than zombies...

At least that's what I thought.. Is there like a specific time or something you can only catch cheraxes in? Went fore like 10 casts before they started biting around 15:00, then they just stopped again 5 mins later. Got 6 bites in a row and have casted another 30 times and no hook...

Would you guys recommend doing liks with minnow or the special bait, or no point til i have mooching? was able to pull up 4 liks in an hour with 78 fishing and alby ring using minnow (and .4 of a level too, whoo)

[Clyne]

62 Fishing and Lu's...anywhere I can get a decent skill up rate? I'm mostly just fishing for profit in N. Qufim (squids), but would like to get up to 78 soon.

I was 63.9 about a month ago when I started in Nashmau. I'm 85.9 right now. I used a Pelican ring and normally only fished an hour to hour-and-a-half a day (3-4 charges), 4-5 days a week. Stupid fish ranking needs to start again, ring is almost empty!

Mileage may vary, but you make a decent amount of gil just NPC'ing your catches while you're there.

[Rilu]

62 Fishing and Lu's...anywhere I can get a decent skill up rate? I'm mostly just fishing for profit in N. Qufim (squids), but would like to get up to 78 soon. I've tried Tallaca Cove, but get horrible bite rates and have a hard time reelling fish in without using an Albatross Ring.

You can also do Arrapago Reef with a shrimp Lure, right near the Ashu Talif start point, just fish there on that dock. Shrimp Lure gets you merc and ahtapots and I get a pretty good bite rate (usually 7-8 fish per 10 casts, 1-2 no catch, 1-2 monsters). Best part is, not many people fish there so its quiet, you get to be by yourself, and you get to see groups of people plop out dead from time to time right by you, thats always fun.

Now, one thing to note: I do find these to be a little harder to bring in than the ones in Nashmau, in fact, i've had a handful of ahtapots think they are titans from time to time and I wasn't able to pull them in, but for the most part that place is money. Only thing is, its a little bit of a hike, so take advantage of your satchel if you got it, and empty your inventory. I generally go there with 30/70 inventory and have 0 problems holding all the fish i'm gonna catch. I only fish for usually 2-2.5 hours at the most per day, too much other stuff going on.

[Pirian]

You can also do Arrapago Reef with a shrimp Lure, right near the Ashu Talif start point, just fish there on that dock. Shrimp Lure gets you merc and ahtapots and I get a pretty good bite rate (usually 7-8 fish per 10 casts, 1-2 no catch, 1-2 monsters). Best part is, not many people fish there so its quiet, you get to be by yourself, and you get to see groups of people plop out dead from time to time right by you, thats always fun.

How does this compare to the bite rate in Nashmau? I'm level 46 myself and have ridden the Istiridye train since level 20 desynthing 50% of them into pearls/blackpearls making pretty decent gil, but I'm coming about to the end of this ride. I've tried fishing up the other fish with halcyon rod and shrimp lure but the rod break rate has been pretty bad for me so I just went back to Istiridye waiting for a lu's to pop on AH but they don't sell very often

Back to my original question though. I wish to inquire about this because I usually only can clear about 20-30 spaces, which is plenty for the merc/istiridye because they stack, but since Ahtapot's don't I'm worried I'll have inventory issues and have to run back often. I usually fish to fatigue almost every day depending on how active of a day it is, but I do it on my BC mule so I can usually leave her in Nashmau and keep casting whenever I get a chance. I can't afford to set her HP in Nashmau or I would just do that and warp back every time inventory caps out.

[Rilu]

How does this compare to the bite rate in Nashmau? I'm level 46 myself and have ridden the Istiridye train since level 20 desynthing 50% of them into pearls/blackpearls making pretty decent gil, but I'm coming about to the end of this ride. I've tried fishing up the other fish with halcyon rod and shrimp lure but the rod break rate has been pretty bad for me so I just went back to Istiridye waiting for a lu's to pop on AH but they don't sell very often

Back to my original question though. I wish to inquire about this because I usually only can clear about 20-30 spaces, which is plenty for the merc/istiridye because they stack, but since Ahtapot's don't I'm worried I'll have inventory issues and have to run back often. I usually fish to fatigue almost every day depending on how active of a day it is, but I do it on my BC mule so I can usually leave her in Nashmau and keep casting whenever I get a chance. I can't afford to set her HP in Nashmau or I would just do that and warp back every time inventory caps out.

When I did Istryde in Nashmau, the bite rate was incredible, like 9/10 were fish and my skillup flew. When you change to Merc's and Ahtapots though, the bite rate goes way down in Nashmau, at least on my server. Its probably due to the other 15 fisherman sitting there fishing all day long (i'm SURE they are really fishing and they aren't botting.... especially the guy that caught 10 straight merc's and ahtapots and had to release them due to full inventory, but kept fishing and dropping fish.) but it seems to get fished out pretty quickly.

[Pirian]

Yeah, I love the bite rate on Istiridye <3 Getting an average of 3 levels a day which is pretty sweet. Afraid I'm getting spoiled by it, lol. It's not bad on Caitsith at all though. Most ever I've seen fishing at one time was 5, including myself, and it's mostly just me doing Istiridye.

[Ruuz]

Evilpaul, you should join me in Tallaca lol. Gets so lonely in that dreary cave. It's also the only place I know that has good NPCable fish with over 50% bite rate. It could be a problem if you cant actually fish them up though. I was personally able to pull up Ahtapots and Mercs from 53 when I capped on Shalls. I never tried Black Sole at that level though, but most fishers dont have any trouble bringing those in by that level.

On biterates:

Nashmau is about 30-35% overall fish you want to casts. I fished here before I had apron though, so bite rate may go up with Apron (catching less items on line)

Qufim is about 20% w/o apron 25-30% with. Takes sooooooo long to hit exhaustion on Sole I just stopped trying. Especially after Hades prices dropped from 18k/stack to 12k/stack in less than a week (/sigh). Never tried Squid, they are more money per fish, but sell less quickly. I have considered trying them to turn into Black Ink, as they produce the most ink/fish. But Shihei prices are so low I just cant care enough to make them.

Sandfish in Rabao should now be a consideration for some leveling up (~50% catch rate w/apron). With Sabiki you can pull in ~400/day (awwww yeah!) and they sell for like 15k/stack. Of course, I'd probably only do these once a week tops as it will be hard to sell off the fish without driving down the price.

Trumpet Shells in Vunkerl (sp?) Inlet are pretty good money if you can find a Bonecrafter to sell to. About same catch rate as Black Sole.

For skilling in the upper levels, I personally recommend finding a fish you can make good money off of. Dont even worry about the skillups (but try to get the fishing competition ring if you dont have much playtime), they will come soon enough.

(i'm SURE they are really fishing and they aren't botting.... especially the guy that caught 10 straight merc's and ahtapots and had to release them due to full inventory, but kept fishing and dropping fish.) but it seems to get fished out pretty quickly.

LOL, I always kind of wondered if Fishing worked off the same kind of "pool" system as Chocobo Digging, where the game refreshes the inventory every now and then but there is a maximum number of fish/hour that can be brought up. Also, it is kinda funny to see the "xxxx releases catch due to full inventory" message and see them just chill for a while. Nashmau certainly has the most active fishers of any zone Ive seen, some of them must be bots.

[nitsuj]

When I did Istryde in Nashmau, the bite rate was incredible, like 9/10 were fish and my skillup flew. When you change to Merc's and Ahtapots though, the bite rate goes way down in Nashmau, at least on my server. Its probably due to the other 15 fisherman sitting there fishing all day long (i'm SURE they are really fishing and they aren't botting.... especially the guy that caught 10 straight merc's and ahtapots and had to release them due to full inventory, but kept fishing and dropping fish.) but it seems to get fished out pretty quickly.

I fish in Nashmau during the days in my down time at work (while code is compiling or what not). It's been rather bumping lately, again, but usually it's only me and 1 or 2 other guys max.

Skillups slow down a little on Mercs and Ahtapots, but since there's the NPC right in town to sell the non-stacking fish to (as well as no mobs) it makes up for it.