New WeaponSkill Chart

[Seraph]

-'Beautiful' rainbow background for level 3 SCs! (hey, it represents all the elemental colors, what do you want from me!?)

That is totally not what I meant, but it's funny anyway, so I'll take it.

Since this is just the raw image, and not annoying PDF format, I can just add the colors myself, for quick reference. Definately pin-up worthy at this point.

Good Work.

[Gunslinger]

Thanks for the help guys, member of my LS suggested a new background for the top too, so I did it

Updates 1.2-

-Blade: Metsu added to Frag side of Level 3 SC
-New background for Level 3s (goodbye rainbow, we'll miss you ;_
-Made the puppets face the to the left for balance, it was bothering me!

[Cream Soda]

awesome thx

[Jkun]

Awesome great job!

[Silenka]

awesome thx

I just wanted to say I love your sig CS.

[Cream Soda]

w00t ty

[Lotan]

Magic Mortar is spelled with an a, not an e.

Unless I missed them, you're still missing the middle tier puppet WSs. There's Daze, Knockout and Cannibal Blade.

Good job on the chart

[Jkun]

Magic Mortar is spelled with an a, not an e.

Unless I missed them, you're still missing the middle tier puppet WSs. There's Daze, Knockout and Cannibal Blade.

Good job on the chart

Ya,

Just to help you out:

(Harlequin/Stormwaker) Howling Fist > Knockout = Detonation, it also has Scission properties.
(Sharpshot) Daze > One Inch Punch = Compression. I'm not too sure about this. I'm pretty sure it goes where Valor's Chimera Ripper is but it contains Impaction, Transfixion and Compression. Plus I hardly use it now Armor Piercer is available.
(Valoredge) Cannibal Blade = Scission, Reverberation, Compression.

Also some niggles, Induration's Chimara Ripper = Chimera Ripper, and you've typo'd Scission's String Clipper to Sting Clipper ;3

Ok done! /sleeps

[Belgaer]

I don't think Aden can do anything. There's nothing he can do as long as you're not making a profit off of it. Especially since it's so different from his version. He might as well be attempting to copyright WS charts altogether. Basically, as long as you change all the images (you did), there's nothing he can do, since all the information on here is information in a game, not infomation has any right to.

As for the chart itself, I agree, even the newer version needs individual background colors or something so you can just look at it and understand what each is, instead of looking at the arrows to double check. Other than that, I even prefer it to Aden's version. Great job. ^^b

[Izzy]

Nice job! I think you should do a few more cosmetic changes though. Everything looks much more smashed together than Aden's does.

[Granthis]

I'd like to add that Randgrith (Zilart Relic Club, WHM only) belongs in the Fragmentation block.

It also might be a nice idea (as if the chart isn't filled enough) to list the weaponskills (e.g. Spirit Taker), blood pacts (e.g., Spinning Dive), and possibly even offensive blue magic spells (are there any?) that have no SC attributes. It would be helpful to be able to reference such a list to ensure that the abilities may be used without interference in others' chains. The blue magic example may be moot since Chain Affinity is required to participate in a SC.

Also, I notice that some Zilart relic WSs have A tags in their level 2 attribute listings, while others have B tags. Can someone propose an example of the need for the difference in tags? None are leaping to mind.

[Gunslinger]

Alright, 1.3! And all I'm doing for tonight (and may not touch it tomorrow lol, has been a ton of work).

-Added more Puppetmaster WS- I think it's right, please let me know if something is off!

I think it accomplishes my original goal for updating, which was including the new Mythic WS. I don't think the original WS were ever fully addressed in the original chart- most relics aren't in the Level 3 chart (he had them at the side), like club, etc. For example, I know Relic Gun has Dark/Frag (similar to the Metsu I put in a few posts back), and it's not listed either.

If someone wants to make a list of where each Relic WS should be (and how you think it should be tagged), I'd be happy to work on the Level 3 format to see if we can get it 'perfect.' I think Level1/2 part of the chart is correct, unless a pup or someone more astute with chains finds something I messed up . If you have a correction please list the location(s) where it should go/be removed from- I really racked my brain trying to figure that pup stuff out and I'd prefer to be the editor on this project while you all can be the SC experts!

I'll try to make it feel more organized after the next update (which will be once I have a relic WS list / place to put them, if someone wants to do that and thinks it's feasible...). Maybe just tag their secondary elements in the Level 3 chart? (Ex. Blade: Metsu (2nd) in the frag section, and don't put the "Darkness" portion in?). Any approach ideas are appreciated!

It's either that or I remove Zilart Relics completely... up to you guys with what you come up with.

[Izzy]

It's either that or I remove Zilart Relics completely... up to you guys with what you come up with.

They really should be on the property they are associated with. Otherwise it's kinda taking away from the whole ease of use thing Q_Q.

[Jkun]

That latest one looks really good. Great job. Hope I got those PUP ones right or I'm gonna get strangled by /tells! Dx

Wut's that Gun? You're taking responsibility? Oh how kind! ;p jk~!

[Xanthe]

Can't believe you missed Polearm - Geirskogul B under the L2 Distortion grouping. >.>

Good work otherwise!

A suggestion for the Puppet weaponskills, since I find the heads to be somewhat pixelated and distracting, would be for you to have the category be Harlequin/Stormwalker (these two have identical WS sets), Sharpshot, or Valoredge instead of Puppet with an icon. The icon was an neat idea, but I think it distracts from the overall visual balance of the chart. Depending on space, it might be a good idea to break out bloodpacts into their own categories based on avatar as well rather than the Bloodpact (X) format. I think that change works much better with what the chart is trying to do, a lookup with the hierarchy Property > Weapon Type (Weapon/Blue Magic/Frame/Avatar) > Skill (Weapon Skill/Spell/Bloodpact) .

[Alistaire]

Vidohunir is wrong, Fragmentation is A, Distortion B. Tested and posted on the ws properties thread, Swift Blade > Vidohunir made Fragmentation, not Darkness.

[nonolepyro]

i just want to mention that Trueflight isn't an archery ws but a markmanship ws.
great work

[Gunslinger]

Thanks for all the help guys- the chart has come a long way in a day! I think I'm even starting to understand this whole "skillchain" thing

Here's 1.4 changes- I really like what I'm seeing in this version:

-Rearranged parts of the chart for spacing issues
-Additional coloring of Level 3 elements for easy identification
-Removed PUP head icons for visual balance (thanks Xanthe!)
-Changed ice icon to snowflake (thanks Radec!)
-Added Zilart Relic WS... please double check and let me know if you find errors!
-Fixed Trueflight
-Fixed pup WS order by skill level in Scission element
-Added Legend

Once again, if you find any errors just let me know! It gets to be a bit overwhelming while I'm working on it, so I'm more than happy to let others find the errors!

Edit- Fixed Mercy Stroke error, tyty!

[shinoniken]

Thanks for all the help guys- the chart has come a long way in a day! I think I'm even starting to understand this whole "skillchain" thing

Here's 1.4 changes- I really like what I'm seeing in this version:

-Rearranged parts of the chart for spacing issues
-Additional coloring of Level 3 elements for easy identification
-Removed PUP head icons for visual balance (thanks Xanthe!)
-Changed ice icon to snowflake (thanks Radec!)
-Added Zilart Relic WS... please double check and let me know if you find errors!
-Fixed Trueflight
-Fixed pup WS order by skill level in Scission element
-Added Legend

Once again, if you find any errors just let me know! It gets to be a bit overwhelming while I'm working on it, so I'm more than happy to let others find the errors!

You misspelled "Mercy Stroke" as "Mercy Strole." That's the only mistake that I have noticed, but other than that, good job.

[Gunslinger]

Fixed it and re-edited/uploaded in post above, thanks.