INT vs. MAB on your head.

[Zero Serenity]

An old friend of mine who was really into statistics about the game once said to me that INT affects certian spells better than MAB, depending on the piece and the slot. Now, I don't quite remember how this applied to my head. He told me, but I forgot it. I have the Wizard's Petasos (Not +1ed yet, still need materials for it) and the Yigit Turban, as well as the Igqira Tiara for Enfeebling and the Walahra Turban for Stun timers. Going with the teirs of Blizzard and Thunder and the two teirs of Freeze and Burst, what is better for which teir? 4 INT or 2MAB?

Thanks.

[Tonko]

Slot means nothing. MAB on your head vs your feet will yield the same amount of damage.

Read here for more information

[Zero Serenity]

This gives me an idea. *Scuttles off and opens Visual Studio 2008 Beta*

I'm going to make a calculator for Magic Damage based on this information...unless there is already one.

But that wasn't what I was asking. I was reffering to what's better on my head for each spell.

[Starr]

I think full Morrigan's is the correct answer.

[Tonko]

Given your available options of 2 MAB or 4 INT on your head?

Bliz III with +4 INT (on RDM 75) = 592
Bliz III with +2 MAB (on RDM 75) = 590

Do some tests of your own to see which works best. Remember, shit is situational too.

[Zero Serenity]

Black Mage is me. Let me finish this program first. I should have it done by...8PM or so if I'm happy with it.

[Loren]

INT and Magic attack have a multiplicative relationship so the value of one depends on the other. Thus, you can't judge items in a vacuum--gotta look at your total setup.

[Amele]

Black Mage is me. Let me finish this program first. I should have it done by...8PM or so if I'm happy with it.

I wrote a spreadsheet to do melee damage (which is more complicated than magic) in about 40 minutes.

what did they do to 2008 that makes it take 5 hours?


to answer your question: int is only 'always' better when it's not a direct damage spell - (think gravity) for direct damage, equal magnitudes of MAB will generally outperform INT.

(math explanation follows)

adding one int adds approximately: staff bonus * day bonus * weather bonus * Magic burst bonus * MAB * 1/MDB (/2 when dINT is high)

adding one MAB adds approximately (D + f(dINT)) * staff bonus * day bonus * weather bonus * magic burst bonus * 1/MDB

drop the like terms - you get ?INT * MAB
and ?MAB * D+f(dINT)

MAB will always be at least 1 and rarely more than 2 (you'd need MAB+68 to exceed 2.0)

D+f(dINT) is generally 500+ for spells most high level blackmages will cast.

so for a mab change of .01 (+1 MAB) you'll get +5~ damage * applicable common bonuses.

for a dINT change of 1 you'll get +1.5~ damage * applicable common bonuses.

I would use 2 MAB over 4 INT in all situations you would generally encounter as a high level blackmage (tier IV, -ga III, am, am2).

[Tajin]

I would not be caught dead using Turban to cast Stun, i rather put more INT, or Dark Magic skill (no dark magic skill pieces for BLM on the head but still <_<)

[aurik]

I would not be caught dead using Turban to cast Stun, i rather put more INT, or Dark Magic skill (no dark magic skill pieces for BLM on the head but still <_<)

Wut? Stun is probably the most frequently cast spell for my blm. Full haste setup for stun is win; I only put dark magic where I can't get haste and int where I can't get dark magic or haste.

[Tajin]

Well the only Haste pieces i have are Nashira feet and w.turban, that is hardly the uber Haste setup that is going to save my life (or my alliance life).

Which other pieces give haste anyway :/ ?

[fantasticdan]

Has a test been done that shows any correlation between stun success and int?

[Sylphet]

I would not be caught dead using Turban to cast Stun, i rather put more INT, or Dark Magic skill (no dark magic skill pieces for BLM on the head but still <_<)

Personally I like Nashira turban for stun on BLM. 5Macc, -5enmity, 2% haste, spell interrupt -10%. It's usually a /toss piece anyway so not hard to get and... it's kind of useless for everything else. I don't see anything wrong with turban though, having the lowest possible recast on a spell that's very rarely resisted is win.

[Tajin]

Personally I like Nashira turban for stun on BLM. 5Macc, -5enmity, 2% haste, spell interrupt -10%. It's usually a /toss piece anyway so not hard to get and... it's kind of useless for everything else. I don't see anything wrong with turban though, having the lowest possible recast on a spell that's very rarely resisted is win.

Dont get me wrong, i also think using a haste setup is wonderful, but is kinda like a NIN/DRK whose only haste gear is the turban. That is where I'm coming from.

Also, not saying that INT is nice for Stun, i just can pile up more INT because is a better placebo than a single 5% Haste piece.

[Zero Serenity]

What did they do in 2008? Nothing. I'm in class right now, so writing the program and doing classwork is requiring some scheduling and load balancing. Besides, this isn't Excel, this is going to be a standalone program.

[Tajin]

What did they do in 2008? Nothing. I'm in class right now, so writing the program and doing classwork is requiring some scheduling and load balancing. Besides, this isn't Excel, this is going to be a standalone program.

o.O

[Amele]

What did they do in 2008? Nothing. I'm in class right now, so writing the program and doing classwork is requiring some scheduling and load balancing. Besides, this isn't Excel, this is going to be a standalone program.

that was my point.

standalone programs should code -faster- than excel. considering the only advantage excel gives is a ready made user interface with horrible horrible hookups and the disadvantages are too numerous to count.

and I should've clarified: I was working when I did it in 40 minutes. (so it wasn't 40 continuous minutes uninterrupted).

[Nirokun!]

I would not be caught dead using Turban to cast Stun, i rather put more INT, or Dark Magic skill (no dark magic skill pieces for BLM on the head but still <_<)

Personally I like Nashira turban for stun on BLM. 5Macc, -5enmity, 2% haste, spell interrupt -10%. It's usually a /toss piece anyway so not hard to get and... it's kind of useless for everything else. I don't see anything wrong with turban though, having the lowest possible recast on a spell that's very rarely resisted is win.

we think so much alike

however, i use the turban for aspirs and drains too, but thats more of a personal choice (and my elemental macro because i dont have af2 hat and fuck if im carrying around beret +1 for... ouryu)

[ubermonkey]

we think so much alike

however, i use the turban for aspirs and drains too, but thats more of a personal choice (and my elemental macro because i dont have af2 hat and fuck if im carrying around beret +1 for... ouryu)

I don't particularly macro anything bar staff in for stun, but I do use nashira turban for dark magic and in leu of relic hat.

[Tajin]

I believe in m.acc for stun, there is something extremely orgasmic when your stun lasts longer than other BLMs stuns, there is always the hilarious

Monster is no longer stunned.
Tajin casts Stun on the Monster
Monster is Stunned.

without lag of course.