Embracing Hierarchies

[baudelaire]

Is it cool/desirable to use hierarchical page/URL structure for things? For instance...

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/JSE
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/Guide
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/Shattering_Stars

...or...

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/RSE
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/History
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/Lol_p ... no_dancers

[Septimus]

Is it cool/desirable to use hierarchical page/URL structure for things? For instance...

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/JSE
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/Guide
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Samurai/Shattering_Stars

...or...

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/RSE
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/History
http://wiki.bluegartr.com/Galka/Lol_p ... no_dancers

I am not a wiki expert, but it seems logical to me.

All except for the last page, that is terribly illogical.

[baudelaire]

Agreed, that should go under the "memes" section.

[Septimus]

Agreed, that should go under the "memes" section.

No, it should go in the "Filthy, Hurtful Lies" category.

[baudelaire]

Same difference.

[BRP]

Galka/RSE seems silly if it's not a redirect to the "Elder's set" page.

[Amele]

don't over use it.

subpages are great for things like strategy guides for BCNM's. - although shattering stars strats probably belong as subpages to shattering stars quest page, and not their respective job pages. (a link on the job page is good, a subpage is not as good)

subpages aren't so great for things that could easily be headers (like galka/history) and are downright awful for things that are going to be pages in other categories (samurai/jse seems redundant with gear lists that include jobs.)

[baudelaire]

BRP: there's more than just the Elder's stuff... you've got RSE ammo, lvl 1 RSE, lvl 27-33 stuff, the lvl 50 belts, the lvl 55 earrings, the lvl 62 hands/feet, the lvl 70 belts, and I may have left some out... would be nice to post 'em all on one page - or at least links to each set.

Anyway, that's just an example. I'm just looking for feedback on whether the method is sound, and something we want to use.

For instance, I almost always typo the Elvaan RSE ammo - Olibanum Sachet, so when I search on wiki I always type "sachet" and then pick the one I want from the search results. Would be much easier to know that it's Elvaan RSE and hit Elvaan/RSE for it. Redirects would be very useful for ppl who can't remember shit. For instance... if I want to look up Summoner gear, since I'm not a summoner I have no clue which set is Artifact and which is Relic - one's purple, the other's green, what do I know? It'd be great to type Summoner/Artifact and have it redirect me to the right set.

For those of you with webdev backgrounds, this may smack a little of REST api's, and that's the point.

[Amele]

the summoner mainpage already lists the relic and artifact (nq and hq) sets.

not being able to remember the spelling of a particular single item doesn't really justify making an entire subpage about it.

I'd compare that reasoning to thinking that a page to the effect of "eastern jobs/kotes that start with the letter O" is necessary.

some stuff does need to be subpaged; I agree wholeheartedly. most of the things suggested in this thread so far don't need subpages. (the shattering stars strats could use subpages, but I'd rather see Shattering Stars/Samurai, Shattering Stars/Paladin, over Samurai/Shattering Stars -> the latter could certainly redirect to the former.)

[Septimus]

This is how I am looking at hierarchical pages.

As I work on the Adventuring Fellow section, one thing I am keeping in mind is the length of the page. There is a lot of data in table format, and were it to be included the page would be a monstrosity. To keep the page to a reasonable length and still provide the answers that people would want as quickly and pleasantly formatted as possible, I set up several hierarchical pages to go with it: weapon upgrades, headwear, and equipment.

I think this is a situation where hierarchical pages are useful/necessary.