EXP PT: Polearm SAM, after update.

[SamanosukeShiva]

Probably everyone know about this but, Fully meritted Polearm SAM rocks now =P, I was just EXP'ing at G.Collibri camp, WAR SAM DRK BRD BRD RDM. I was SAM/WAR, regular hits were 200s and with berserk on I hit around 300-320, 390s crits. Also with full store TP merit, hmn. kote/sun-ate, i get 20TP/hit(which make up for the 480 delay). Penta thrusts ranging from 1600(100TP~,no serk, no DA) to my highest was 2947(150TP, serk, DA).

From what I notice, there are 3 things that's required to make Polearm SAM works.

-Meritted Polearm, not necessarily need to be max.
-2 BRDs or CORs or both (2 CORs best, +DA with 20TP/hit woo~) that can keep 4 songs or rolls on DD (not that hard is it? you'd be surprised many ppl cant do that >.>)
-Dia2/3, I prefer Dia2 since it's lower MP and no big diff

I used this, http://ffxi.somepage.com/itemdb/6190 , VERY nice crit rate.

[SamanosukeShiva]

after the EXP PT my WAR friend told me that he tried using polearm at collibri also and it worked great, havent see it for myself though.

[Resin]

Damn, that sounds really nice. I'd be interested how it compares to a typical sam/war with hagun or sam/nin with soboro. Hard to argue with those numbers, though. ^^

Oh, Chopper = win. Easily my favorite character (of the anime).

[supercoco]

did you test to merit with a Love Halberd?

been wondering how good/bad it would be

[Chupunpupun]

My JP friend been telling me that JPs tested and found that penta thrust is the new rampage cause it's bascially rampage with a high damage weapon. He keeps trying to convince me with pics of WAR doing 2k+ on khimaira, kb, etc etc. I still haven't tested it out myself cause my polearm is only like 160 and I don't have Gondo-Shizunori. . .

[Aireiya]

My JP friend been telling me that JPs tested and found that penta thrust is the new rampage cause it's bascially rampage with a high damage weapon. He keeps trying to convince me with pics of WAR doing 2k+ on khimaira, kb, etc etc. I still haven't tested it out myself cause my polearm is only like 160 and I don't have Gondo-Shizunori. . .

Problem with comparing rampage to penta is that rampage can crit while penta cannot.

[Churchill]

What WAR can't do 1500-2500 on Birds anyway? I mean, your example had a 2BRD/2COR/BRD+COR type setup. In any of those types of PT's I can't remember a Raging Rush doing under 1200, not to mention we're subbing /NIN the whole time, so to take that into account, your max damage as a SAM was 1500 without berserk, which essentially is the lower part of a good WAR's range with his Berserk down.

Good job and all, really. I just hardly think because you did a crap load of damage in a 2 BRD PT means that something is a good idea, but rather to me I think it means that (and goes to show) the power of stacking Melee DD with buffs to accomplish something. (Which we now know, but a couple years ago, we didn't.)

[VZX]

ummm... they WS faster? 1 WS + 4 hits for next WS, or worst case if they miss the first swing.. it's 5 hits.

If they are fully hasted, hasso > DWII + Suppa

[Churchill]

A WAR with normal haste gear, Haste, and Dual Marches (Assuming your 2BRD setup) attacks every 3.9 seconds, if they were subbing /SAM, and using Hasso, they attack every 3.1 seconds.

With Rajas, they need 7 hits to get to 100TP. A GAxe WAR is using Brutal Earring, and should have DA merited (20% DA) so essentially 1/7 hits is going to be double attacked, and closer to 2/14. Assuming 90-95% Accuracy, that still leaves you at 7 hits to 100%. (See, 27.3 seconds without Hasso, 21.7 with) That's a lot of weapon skills, especially if you're hitting them for 1500-2500 each on birds.

I was ever talking about lol/nin.

[RKenshin]

What part of this post has anything to do with comparing it WARs? At best it's comparing Polearm SAM to a GK SAM, not Polearm SAM vs the world.

[Saraphym]

Polearm SAM vs the world.

2pac samurais?

anyway yea, pentathrust/polearms own face on birds. I tried it once and have been using it regularly when meriting on birds. Average 900~1.1k, highest 1.6k and my polearm is only 200ish. Using stone-splitter atm, I really need to get the crit+6% one from the KS30 or a engetsuto at least.

[Meat]

What about the Love Halberd? I know the damage is rather low, but I've put up some pretty nice numbers with it on bird camp(on dragoon) literally spamming Penta

[Churchill]

^not sure, I know some people played with it in my LS and said before they "patched" 2h the "second" time it was really hot, but afterwards it was kind of "meh" vs. Mezraq (Assuming we're talking about your DRG and not a SAM)