Rajas on non-2hander jobs, yay or nay?

[Izzy]

{Yawn}

To all the brainless Rajasers who claim Store TP is the shit for 1handers: how often do you WS at exactly 100% TP? If the answer is "always lolz" then stop drinking coffee and go take a bath or something because you need to relax irl. I don't know about you, but with Haste gear, Haste spell and at least one March on, I swing again before I can even hit gearswap/WS macro, unless I'm taking it way too seriously (ie, parsing against someone with similar gear etc). I'm human, we're humans, none of us will always WS at 100% TP because we're humans. And every time you WS past the 100% mark (which can be, for example, after you eat a hit from the mob, or when you hold onto TP because a mob is at low HP, or when you simply couldn't react faster than you swung again) then your Rajas is grinning at you reminding how stupid it is to use it for TP.

It is, however, an amazing piece for 2handers =)

But who cares, Sattva Ring for life. And death.

{Yawn I use auto translate when I could just type}
I CONSTANTLY hit 99 TP and it's quite fustrating. Good job playing the "lol get a life card" too. Like someone stated before, shit is situational.

For the record, I ALWAYS WS when I get exactly 100+ TP. You can say, "LOLZ GET A LIFE U NERD", but truth is, you're the type of faggot lazy ass melee I can't stand when I actually have to be RDM or WHM in a merit party.

[Bagel]

I would scrap Rajas for TP if I had a second sniper +1 or tor/div/mars, but I like the miniscule enhancements from rajas more than a miniscule 2 or 3 acc.

[Charismatic]

i think it's gimp but i use it anyway.

QFT
Cheap (aka; free) and almost as good as the other alternatives, so why bother?

[Evelyn]

no, rajas is definitely nice if it lets you get 100% in 1-2 fewer hits. I didn't find it essential until after 2h update, when I needed it for a 7-hit gaxe setup (had tamas til then for rdm), but now I use it for gaxe and axe/joy setups. on most things I'm killing with axe/joy, I'm either at/near acc cap or far enough under that I need sushi anyway, so the acc loss won't kill me. the extra str is noticeable as well since I've only got +11 otherwise (unicorn, foragers, haub)

[Seedz]

{Yawn}

To all the brainless Rajasers who claim Store TP is the shit for 1handers: how often do you WS at exactly 100% TP? If the answer is "always lolz" then stop drinking coffee and go take a bath or something because you need to relax irl. I don't know about you, but with Haste gear, Haste spell and at least one March on, I swing again before I can even hit gearswap/WS macro, unless I'm taking it way too seriously (ie, parsing against someone with similar gear etc). I'm human, we're humans, none of us will always WS at 100% TP because we're humans. And every time you WS past the 100% mark (which can be, for example, after you eat a hit from the mob, or when you hold onto TP because a mob is at low HP, or when you simply couldn't react faster than you swung again) then your Rajas is grinning at you reminding how stupid it is to use it for TP.

It is, however, an amazing piece for 2handers =)

But who cares, Sattva Ring for life. And death.

{Yawn I use auto translate when I could just type}
I CONSTANTLY hit 99 TP and it's quite fustrating. Good job playing the "lol get a life card" too. Like someone stated before, shit is situational.

For the record, I ALWAYS WS when I get exactly 100+ TP. You can say, "LOLZ GET A LIFE U NERD", but truth is, you're the type of faggot lazy ass melee I can't stand when I actually have to be RDM or WHM in a merit party.

First, Mr.Defensive arse, I said {Yawn} because after hearing all this "Store TP is godlike for 1 handers" nonsense for a long time, I can't be arsed to even type Yawn (in game, that is, I obviously had to type it here) because I don't care how wonderful you think it is, because it's not.

It wasn't RL card dude, I simply stated that you either:

A) Are on crack and mash the WS gear/WS macro at 90ish TP to fire WS as soon as you swing during the whole duration of a (decent) merit party.
B) Swing before you're able to hit WS gear/WS macro, thus going past the 100% TP mark, making the "zomg 1 swing faster" argument useless.
C) Need better Haste gear/support mages because you're swinging at the speed of a DRK.

Maybe if you ever pulled hate in a merit party as a melee WHM you'd understand there's also the possibility of eating a hit or two unexpectedly. Kudos to you for upgrading relic club and all, but that's not the point of the thread.
For the record, I'm not a lazy ass melee bla bla bla, I can show you anytime you want, or you can ask people who have partied with me.

[Zanz L. Barre The 3rd]

C) Need better Haste gear/support mages because you're swinging at the speed of a DRK.

hay wise guy

I USE MERCURIAL KRIS ON DRK SO LIKE WOULDNT YOU WANT TO SWING AT THE SPEED OF A DRK

[Almalexia]

A) Are on crack and mash the WS gear/WS macro at 90ish TP to fire WS as soon as you swing during the whole duration of a (decent) merit party.

Oh yeah, real clever. Spin it to make this seem like it's unnatural as if applying pressure to keys (or buttons) at a certain time is only possible if you're under the influence of drugs.

Maybe everyone else isn't on crack. Maybe you're just lazy.

[Khajit]

Seedz is an idiot. we hav learned this. let's move on or ignore him until he gets agitated and amuses us with idiotic ramblings.
He seems to have forgotten that the str+5 exists there also. which kinda makes up for missing 1.25% more for non sushi eaters and on sushi eaters they wont even miss the acc anyway.
The storetp really is good and I cant wait till i see what happens when skadi's chausses are combined.

[Seedz]

All I'm saying is I swing fast enough so that Store TP means basically nothing. Any one-hander with decent enough gear and support will be swinging at a very high speed, making the Store TP argument even less valid. You also seem to forget that there will be instances in which WSing at 100% is just not the way to go (mob with low HP, being high on the hate list and with no shadows left, etc).

@Lanz: Yea, sorry, my bad for making an in-LS joke here. Should have just said speed of a drk with a scythe and no haste, maybe it'd have been harder to pick on that.
@Almalexia: From a merit party point of view, being a melee is dull and boring after a while. In the course of a decent (2 hours) merit party, you will find yourself not WSing at *exactly* 100 TP because of all the things I've said before (human factors, missed hits on a WS that destroy your X-hit setup, eating an attack from a mob, swing speed of 1handed weapons). I am not lazy, I've been in long parties and fights, and I don't see how Store TP would make or break any situation.
@Khajit: feel free to call me an idiot after reading the first 15 words of my post, just don't do it before, ok?

[Capo]

A) Are on crack and mash the WS gear/WS macro at 90ish TP to fire WS as soon as you swing during the whole duration of a (decent) merit party.

this is what i do and what i expect my other melees to be doing, unless the mob is at low hp. the crack part is optional

[Rocl]

A) Are on crack and mash the WS gear/WS macro at 90ish TP to fire WS as soon as you swing during the whole duration of a (decent) merit party.

this is what i do and what i expect my other melees to be doing, unless the mob is at low hp. the crack part is optional

You're not BG enough.
Crack is mandatory, not optional.

[theo]

The "Do you swing at exactly 100 TP?" argument is horribly flawed to begin with. Lets say, out of either laziness or slowness or any old excuse you can come up with, you tend to WS at 120 TP on average. With Store TP, you get to 120 TP faster than you got there without Store TP. Therefore you are using your WS slightly sooner than you would have otherwise.

I voted Rajas, but I'm cheap. If I feel that I can substitute a free Ra/Ex item and only suffer a very small penalty, I'll do it so I can improve my character in other slots. It might look gimp sometimes but I think its just being smart with my limited amounts of money. Then again I'm a SAM, so Rajas is gonna be obvious anyway, but thats besides the point I think.

[levish]

about +7ish store TP on a low delay dagger setup gets you a pretty decent bump in time to WS (actually ran some numbers and I believe addin in Skadi Legs as well gives it another nice bump)

Great if you are in WS spam pt, more or less useless if you wait at all.

So technically "depends" otherwise what else are you going to wear in that slot really.