New Job - Scholar

[Remyo]

and i'm not sure if anyones said this yet but has anyone ever thought that maybe the white and black grimoires will be like level 38 or higher or not usable as a SJ? Im gonna laugh if they are

the wth will scholar use up to 38?

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimoire betting on more than 2 grimoires. I would so level this job if it gets access to the keys of solomon books. I'd love to summon me some demons of my own.

also page claim!

[Zosi]

You know, Viking seems unlikely given the similarity to WAR, but then again, if you had pitched Scholar to me last week, I would've called you a nutcase. Anything seems possible now.

Totally off-topic, but...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...ie/falisig.jpg

Falisa, may I ask where that Yigit DAT mod is from?

[Max™]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

I was talking about a new job idea with someone, since Vikings are mentioned, War was clearly the Proto-Tank, but wound up turning into a premier DD that can tank with the right subs, Pld and Drk do the Offense/Defense mirror wonderfully, and War is not the mirror of either, make Viking a job like War with JA's that provide enmity, perhaps -Dmg% taken (and hey, if it scales up as you level, you'll probably be able to slot it in with Pld and Nin as endgame tank), and a bit of DD ability.

This would counter Wars Offense, Offense, Defense mix with Defense, Defense, Offence.

that is what i was thinking a defense warrior type, id like to see that, but i think SE is leaning towards completely unique things so will see

[Rocl]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

They're Rafflesias, thank you very much

[Remyo]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

They're Rafflesias, thank you very much

on a side note, what is the purpose of the blue rafflesias in the jungles?

[MaachaQ]

I fell asleep on the couch after reading this thread, and when I woke up, "To Catch a Predator" was on... >.>

[Teakwood]

I was thinking along these lines, trying to figure out how they could put in a new tank job that isn't a clone of PLD somehow, or a blinktank NIN clone, and it occurred to me : Tank job that tanked, not by being really really defensive, or by outright negating damage, but by giving the mob specific debuffs that applied only to the tank - along the lines of tanking by using 'Killer' effects, except attk down or acc down, for example, and they'd have to proc on a nearly 100 percent basis. These debuffs would give the tank a steady influx of hate holding tools... Pissing into the wind, of course, but I've been curious for a while as to how you could implement a tank job that wasn't an obvious carbon copy of an existing job? Most speculation I've read for Berserker / Viking / Rikishi seems to be describing a job that's... basically Warrior, with added 'RAWR'. WAR was originally intended to be 'the' tank job of the game, but that's obviously not how it's played out, especially since Ninja jumped into the fray... I haven't heard much speculation as to what the mechanics of a new tank job would be, just that everyone thinks SE should add one. 'course, SE has a longstanding reputation for surprising us, so we'll probably just have to wait and see.

[Varg]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

They're Rafflesias, thank you very much

on a side note, what is the purpose of the blue rafflesias in the jungles?

They are used in The "Even More Gullibles Travels" - the quest that unlocks the opo-opo crown quest.

[LinktheDeme]

and i'm not sure if anyones said this yet but has anyone ever thought that maybe the white and black grimoires will be like level 38 or higher or not usable as a SJ? Im gonna laugh if they are

the wth will scholar use up to 38?

edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimoire betting on more than 2 grimoires. I would so level this job if it gets access to the keys of solomon books. I'd love to summon me some demons of my own.

also page claim!

From what i've read white and black grimoires look like a JA that's used. Don't see why they couldn't manage without them since they should be able to cast without having grimoires up. Seems like grimoires just make casting easier. Might even be 40 seems like this is scholar's equivalent convert. This is just all speculation though.

[Lebzile]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

Mmm, possibilities...

[Judai]

Try reading Scholar's descritpion again. It specifically states the use of Grimoires as a sub and to me it looks like they can only use one type of magic at a time.

By the way, Scholars will not be hitting anything with books. Their basic abilities are “White Grimoire” and “Black Grimoire.” They function similar to a Samurai’s Hasso and Seigan, in that the Scholar chooses between wielding White Magic and Black Magic, but not both at once. There is no time limit on this ability, so technically you could remain on one set of magic forever.

“White Grimoire” lets one specialize in White Magic by lowering cast times and reducing MP cost. In addition, Healing, Divine, and Enhancing skills are all raised, and unique abilities are unlocked. Conversely, Black Magic spells have their MP cost increased and casting time lengthened. However, you are free to switch back and forth at any time.

With Scholar as a support job, using the Black Grimoire will boost those respective skills, perhaps allowing White Mages to net better results with Drain and Aspir, or land the oft-resisted Paralyze on an enemy.

[Seigfried Of Pandy]

Hmmm, new Ochu mobs+ Scholar AF= ???

Mmm, possibilities...

hentai waiting to happen :X.

scholar looks great, was really hoping for emu though =[

[Remyo]

from reading on grimoires I think raogrimm found a grimoire to make a pact with the demons. he was a "scholar" wasn't he?

[Plow]

I was thinking along these lines, trying to figure out how they could put in a new tank job that isn't a clone of PLD somehow, or a blinktank NIN clone, and it occurred to me : Tank job that tanked, not by being really really defensive, or by outright negating damage, but by giving the mob specific debuffs that applied only to the tank - along the lines of tanking by using 'Killer' effects, except attk down or acc down, for example, and they'd have to proc on a nearly 100 percent basis. These debuffs would give the tank a steady influx of hate holding tools... Pissing into the wind, of course, but I've been curious for a while as to how you could implement a tank job that wasn't an obvious carbon copy of an existing job? Most speculation I've read for Berserker / Viking / Rikishi seems to be describing a job that's... basically Warrior, with added 'RAWR'. WAR was originally intended to be 'the' tank job of the game, but that's obviously not how it's played out, especially since Ninja jumped into the fray... I haven't heard much speculation as to what the mechanics of a new tank job would be, just that everyone thinks SE should add one. 'course, SE has a longstanding reputation for surprising us, so we'll probably just have to wait and see.

Given the simplicity of most jobs in FFXI, I'd imagine something like a "Guardian" that would be able to have massively high defense and vit (like retarded high full time 999/200+) while wearing high enmity and a huuueg shield, possibly doing reactive damage for some threat, but using a variety of shield bash type stuff mostly.

[Teakwood]

Given the simplicity of most jobs in FFXI, I'd imagine something like a "Guardian" that would be able to have massively high defense and vit (like retarded high full time 999/200+) while wearing high enmity and a huuueg shield, possibly doing reactive damage for some threat, but using a variety of shield bash type stuff mostly.

That's basically a prestige class of a Paladin minus White Magic with permaPhalanx lodged up some orifice, though, really. I think they were aiming for that when they made Paladin, although I'm not really sure - extreme damage reduction as an idea for a tank job is certainly a possibility, but especially considering the recent updates to Paladin I think (or hope) that they'd try and do something completely different.

[Lamente]

Try reading Scholar's descritpion again. It specifically states the use of Grimoires as a sub and to me it looks like they can only use one type of magic at a time.

By the way, Scholars will not be hitting anything with books. Their basic abilities are “White Grimoire” and “Black Grimoire.” They function similar to a Samurai’s Hasso and Seigan, in that the Scholar chooses between wielding White Magic and Black Magic, but not both at once. There is no time limit on this ability, so technically you could remain on one set of magic forever.

“White Grimoire” lets one specialize in White Magic by lowering cast times and reducing MP cost. In addition, Healing, Divine, and Enhancing skills are all raised, and unique abilities are unlocked. Conversely, Black Magic spells have their MP cost increased and casting time lengthened. However, you are free to switch back and forth at any time.

With Scholar as a support job, using the Black Grimoire will boost those respective skills, perhaps allowing White Mages to net better results with Drain and Aspir, or land the oft-resisted Paralyze on an enemy.

If you reread the Scholar description, you'll see that using a particular Grimoire will incur penalties to the opposite school of magic by means of increasing MP cost and recast time. Which means that they'd have to be able to use it in order for it to be penalized.

[Sho]

I hope this will also affect Blue Magic.

[Ethican]

you don't think there's a posibility of oracle tendancies with yin/yang magic as a scholar's own magic set? would seem silly of SQEN to make a new "subjob" their dual school mentality that SQEN gave them could facilitate y/y magic as well... all that said.. I hope it's not a rehashed rdm.

[Nirokun!]

I hope this will also affect Blue Magic.

outside of the imposed weather effect dealy, i dont think it would.. But why would you want it to? our good spells already cast quickly and are nice dmg/mp.