A few more hints from the dats

[Solarus]

Was bored today, so I had another poke around in the dats today to see if there's anything else in there. It's not much, but I found a few small things in there that could give us some more hints. Scroll down for the updated AltanaView lists if you want to see them yourself.

Firstly, there's a few new things that look like monster abilities. I'm assuming that the reason these are in the dats now is Blue Magic. Generally all monster models/animation/effects for expansions would just be on the disks and in their own ROM folder (ROM4 for ToAU, will be ROM5 for WotG), but all mob moves from ToAU that are used as Blue Magic still have to be in the standard dat files so every Blu doesn't crash their game. So of course, the same has to be true of any new Blue magic they add for WotG Mobs

189/42, "mmh_hana"
This one's obviously from the new red Mandragora's (Lycopodium is what they were called at the fan festival). Pretty sure it was mentioned somewhere that they'd have a TP down move? Either way, this is obviously their replacement for the Mandy's standard sleep move.

191/0, "wlf_mus0"
Judging by the name I'd say that this is a move from Gnoles. Looks like a 6 hit attack. Also, if you play this in AltanaView, it uses the Blue Magic casting animation, so it seems likely that this is Blue Magic.

189/14, "abm_ybak" Blue Magic?
189/15, "abm_bers" Blue Magic?
189/16, "abm_fat" Blue Magic?
189/17, "abm_slp" Blue Magic?
189/18, "abm_wave" Blue Magic?

Not sure what these are, or even if they are Blue Magic for sure. the "abm" prefic makes me think Blue Magic, and if you play them in AltanaView it does have a jerky bit of the blue magic animation, but that doesn't prove anything. Guess the name/mob/effect anyone?

189/40, "drk2_kz"

Not sure what this is. Looks like some sort of Wind Breath move?

189/41, "atms_wrp" Obviously the effect for being warped into the Cavernous Maw. Interestlingly, the Cavernous Maw NPCs are called "atmos" in the dats.

There's also a set of new WS animations. Someone noticed these in another thread, and that they have the same motions as current WSs. But if you play them in AltanaView, there's also a set of effects for them. There's basically 2 different sets of effects. Each of these has 6 different effects in the dat - 3 are for the caster, 3 are for the target (and they seem to match up with eachother) These are each replicated for each race (or just Hume M/F and Elvaan M Currently since that's all that was in the update) and then for each weapon type (or most anyway. There's lots of duplicates and basically one to cover each weapon, other than Ranged).

191/68-191/85, Hume M WS
192/16-192/33, Hume F WS
192/92-192/109, Elvaan M WS

Anyway, here's the updated lists to have a look, or you can just copypasta the lines in this post into the list files.

http://people.ex.ac.uk/jr276/AVList11092007.zip

New Blue Magic and other effects are under Effects -> Wings of the Goddess New WSs and also the Dances are under PC -> Action. Lists should all be fully up-to-date including most recent ToAU content and the WotG items from the last update.

[Rakshaka]

Can't get the effects to play; also can't find the dances. I have an up-to-date copy of altana view, and have included the list that you provided. I've gotten the version update, and I've found the .dats in the playonline folders. So, I'm not sure what's wrong.

[Solarus]

Odd o_O

Try downloading this - http://people.ex.ac.uk/jr276/AltanaView.zip

That's my full AltanaView folder with everything up to date, so that should work. If not, then I'm not sure

[Xanthe]

Everything works fine for me except for the effects on the new weapon skill entries. All I see is the animation without any effect.

[ono]

I just saw this on Alla this afternoon, video of three BLU spells:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQh375JbliU

The guy that posted DAT swapped their gear, so no, that is not BLU relic armor.

EDIT: reference thread: http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/forum.html?f ... 116;page=1

[Solarus]

Everything works fine for me except for the effects on the new weapon skill entries. All I see is the animation without any effect.

Sorry, should have explained that more. Under where you select the WS, there's a box that says Schedule, and it should say main in it at the moment. Change that to one of the other ones and it'll show the effects.

As for the youtube video - Haven't seen the first 2 in that, I'll have another look around. I miiiight have missed a whole folder, since the 3rd one shown there is in at the start of one of the folders I believe.

Edit: Right, I missed a few files. They were crashing my POLUtils before so I just ignored them. Updating lists agaaain~

190/126, "fly_dsn0"
Gnats or Ladybugs I'd assume.
190/127, "slg_acd0"
Easy enough to figure that one out.. Slugg Acid.

Above files updated.

[gandorf]

This my first time seeing this stuff. Is the V2 of barspells and stuff like bravery new?

[LD]

Almost looks like there's going to be some sort of Dark bomb...

[klvino]

This my first time seeing this stuff. Is the V2 of barspells and stuff like bravery new?

Are they really V2 of barspells or are they the spell effects for the Scholar weather spells?

[Lordshin]

v2 of Barspells and Bravery have been there for a while

[LD]

what quickdraw said. ¬¬

[klvino]

Thx, when in DATs, barspells weren't anything that I was specifically seeking out so I never noticed there being V2.

[Akiyama]

Ahh! Thanks for the upload on the files. You have yours organized much better than mine.

[Deftscythe]

Speculating that first spell is from the gnolls, second is from slugs, and the third is from pixies. Based on the scientific evidence that one looks like jaws clamping, one is all orange, and the last is white/blue.

[rath]

Speculating that first spell is from the gnolls, second is from slugs, and the third is from pixies. Based on the scientific evidence that one looks like jaws clamping, one is all orange, and the last is white/blue.

I would be more inclined to think the jaws move is from gnats, based on PoL description of them having a formidable array of gnashing teeth.

[FinalJustice]

has anyone seen this particular vid about blu spells?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyEgJTtxH9w&NR=1

ive seen the 6 hitter and the slime looking one, but what about those dark magic looking spells? especially that big explosive one right after the initial 6 hit spell?

[Solarus]

The dark looking ones are these in AltanaView

189/14, "abm_ybak" Blue Magic?
189/15, "abm_bers" Blue Magic?
189/16, "abm_fat" Blue Magic?
189/17, "abm_slp" Blue Magic?
189/18, "abm_wave" Blue Magic?

Not really sure whether they're Blue Magic or not... Marked them as possibly so since it sorta plays the Blu animation... but it doesn't look right. Don't really know what to make of those ones.

[Rakshaka]

Odd o_O

Try downloading this - http://people.ex.ac.uk/jr276/AltanaView.zip

That's my full AltanaView folder with everything up to date, so that should work. If not, then I'm not sure

Still having trouble. Downloaded that zip, unzipped it and started up AV. Whenever i select anything under to WoTG folder, the schedule dropdown menu and the play button get grayed out. Whenver I equip any of the new WotG armor, that part of the body just disappears. I have all of the dats in the correct playonline folder. I've gotten the update on Nov 13. Not sure what's wrong

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Rakshaka/AV1.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y249/Rakshaka/AV2.jpg

[Issac]

Did you copy the folders from the update into your rom folder?

[Rakshaka]

thanks, that was the problem :D