Duck season!

[Tyche]

I live in rural KY where I'd guess over 75% of the populous have hunted some type of game, and I have yet to meet a single person who killed an animal and just left it to die without salvaging some type of food from it. Ive seen people break piss bags and ruin all of the meat while field dressing a deer, but the intent was still to salvage all of the edible meat. So yeah, if he killed those dogs in a more humane way that didn't force them to use their carnal instincts to kill each other, then he ate those dogs, maybe it'd be OK...but then again, as far as i know, a dog doesn't have a regulated season for killing. If you cannot see the difference, then noone can help you. You're obviously reaching for some type of correlation to justify the acts, which doesn't exist.

[Deejay]

I think it's an ass backwards world we live in where a dude who walks in front of his house and shoots a dog will be looked at like a criminal. However, if that same person were to walk in front of their house and shoot a deer in the head they'd get a pat on the back. That's the only point I was attempting to make. Doesn't it sound just a little stupid to you? If Vick had been hunting the dogs and eating him I'm pretty sure he'd still be getting jail sentences and shunned upon by society.


Didn't want to turn this into a derailed discussion about Vick though, lol. Was just using him as an example.

I'll leave you guys alone now. Just had that to say.

[Tyche]

Well, you aren't gonna get much shit for shooting a dog in front of your house. Killing a dog =/= dog fighting.

[Norelco]

I think it's an ass backwards world we live in where a dude who walks in front of his house and shoots a dog will be looked at like a criminal. However, if that same person were to walk in front of their house and shoot a deer in the head they'd get a pat on the back. That's the only point I was attempting to make. Doesn't it sound just a little stupid to you? If Vick had been hunting the dogs and eating him I'm pretty sure he'd still be getting jail sentences and shunned upon by society.


Didn't want to turn this into a derailed discussion about Vick though, lol. Was just using him as an example.

I'll leave you guys alone now. Just had that to say.

Not my post, but it's a post about the benefits of hunting, directed at people who think it's "ass backwards".

We don't "hunt for fun". We do enjoy the hunt. Very big difference. Being outdoors & in the fields with your friends & fellow hunters is very enjoyable. Hunting with my two sons is one of my best times of the year. Being around the camp fire & telling stories (lies) is never better than when you are hunting. Note that I didn't mention "killing" anything yet. Yes, we do kill deer & other wild game. We just are not red eyed drooling while we are doing it. That's what most non-hunters think the "sport" of hunting is. You have never been so wrong.

Let us chat about $$$$. Do you know how large an industry that caters to hunters & other sportsmen really is? $30 billion & 1,000,000 jobs. Let's play make believe & all hunting, shooting, etc. are now banned. How do you plan on helping the economy & workers recover from a huge hit like that? Hunters and fishermen fund nearly 75% of the annual income for all 50 state conservation agencies. Through license fees and excise taxes on arms and gear, sportsmen contribute $200 million per year for wildlife conservation. (U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service) That is going to make enjoying the outdoors by non-hunters basicly nonexistant. No state parks, no camping, no backpacking, cycling, rock climbing, etc. & so on.

Ask the next farmer you see about the overpopulation of deer & what it means to them from the crop damage deer create. Ask any insurance agent what they think about hunting & the overpopulation of deer. Check with them on how bad the deer versus vehicle costs keep rising every year. Maybe if you're lucky & they will pay for a firearm. Basically, hunters are the best conservation tools that all state's Department of Natural Resources have. Hunters have been and continue to be among the foremost supporters of sound wildlife management and conservation practices in the United States.

Your ignorance on hunting is ridiculous. So how do you equate this with Michael Vick, and the crap he did to those dogs? Michael Vick is getting shunned because what he did was stupid and inhumane, and it has nothing to do with him being famous or black, so stop insinuating that's the reason. You sound like an idiot.

[Creeps]

How this thread was turned into a Michael Vick argument astounds me.

Hunting and fishing are a large part of my family's history and a long running tradition. I'm pretty sure that a large amount of the people who are part of the boards can identify. We never hunt solely because we enjoy ending an animal's life. I've been taught since I was a kid that when I hunt or fish, I'm supposed to use every part of the animal I can. So stop your crying about Michael Vick eating dogs or whatever other bullshit you're spewing. As Tyche said, if you can't see the difference between hunting an animal to feed yourself and abusing , exploiting and torturing defenseless dogs, then you're an enormous dumb ass.

[Amarok]

I've been hunting since I was young as well. <3 elk jerky

[SephYuyX]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=mLW963ewcq8

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[Charla]

Creeps, your icon is broken.

I think whoever complained was trying to say that people would get arrested for hunting a dog, but not for hunting a deer/duck/wabbit/whatever. It's still a pretty stupid point when you consider all the facts, but Michael Vick was just a vehicle for making it.

[Deejay]

I think it's an ass backwards world we live in where a dude who walks in front of his house and shoots a dog will be looked at like a criminal. However, if that same person were to walk in front of their house and shoot a deer in the head they'd get a pat on the back. That's the only point I was attempting to make. Doesn't it sound just a little stupid to you? If Vick had been hunting the dogs and eating him I'm pretty sure he'd still be getting jail sentences and shunned upon by society.

Your ignorance on hunting is ridiculous. So how do you equate this with Michael Vick, and the crap he did to those dogs? Michael Vick is getting shunned because what he did was stupid and inhumane, and it has nothing to do with him being famous or black, so stop insinuating that's the reason. You sound like an idiot.

I never said anything about the economic value of hunting or whehter or not they fund state parks or not. I never tryed to equate or justify what Michael Vick did. I never said what he did was right.

The only point I was making is how our society views the killing of dogs over the killing of other animals. I then asked how many deer/buck/elk/whatever do you have to kill before it matters as much as the 8 dogs Vick and his peoples killed. If Joe Smith shot dogs for sport and used every part of the dog for food, wouldn't he still be considered a menace to society? It's funny how even mentioning Vick's name leaves white people frothing at the mouth lol.

How this thread was turned into a Michael Vick argument astounds me.
Hunting and fishing are a large part of my family's history and a long running tradition. I'm pretty sure that a large amount of the people who are part of the boards can identify. We never hunt solely because we enjoy ending an animal's life. I've been taught since I was a kid that when I hunt or fish, I'm supposed to use every part of the animal I can. So stop your crying about Michael Vick eating dogs or whatever other bullshit you're spewing. As Tyche said, if you can't see the difference between hunting an animal to feed yourself and abusing , exploiting and torturing defenseless dogs, then you're an enormous dumb ass.

Your lack of any type of reading comprehension astounds me. Shut the fuck up if you're not going to read anything I said.

Didn't want to turn this into a derailed discussion about Vick though, lol. Was just using him as an example.

[Creeps]

Didn't want to turn this into a derailed discussion about Vick though, lol. Was just using him as an example.

I comprehended what you wrote just fine, asshole. You brought this on yourself by even bringing up Vick. If you didn't want to turn this thread into a derailed discussion about Michael Vick, then why bring it up? Keep your uninformed shitty commentary to yourself next time.

[Deejay]

Didn't want to turn this into a derailed discussion about Vick though, lol. Was just using him as an example.

I comprehended what you wrote just fine, asshole. You brought this on yourself by even bringing up Vick. If you didn't want to turn this thread into a derailed discussion about Michael Vick, then why bring it up? Keep your uninformed shitty commentary to yourself next time.

Rather than get your panties in a twist about me bringing up Michael Vick.... perhaps you could post something relevant to the discussion? You realize that if you didn't say anything, no one would be arguing about Vick right?

[Norelco]

I never said anything about the economic value of hunting or whehter or not they fund state parks or not. I never tryed to equate or justify what Michael Vick did. I never said what he did was right.

The only point I was making is how our society views the killing of dogs over the killing of other animals. I then asked how many deer/buck/elk/whatever do you have to kill before it matters as much as the 8 dogs Vick and his peoples killed. If Joe Smith shot dogs for sport and used every part of the dog for food, wouldn't he still be considered a menace to society? It's funny how even mentioning Vick's name leaves white people frothing at the mouth lol.

It's not really a "dog" issue. If Vick was caught pitting two deer/buck/elk/whatever against one another the outcome would be the same. Forcing any animal to fight one another for the purposes of illegal gambling is the issue, not the type of animal used. It just so happens that roosters and dogs are used because they show the most agression towards one another and they are easily obtained/bred.

As for Joe Smith shooting dogs for sport and using every part of their body for food, that argument just doesn't work, mostly because a dog is a domesticated animal, especially here in the United States. The population control issue doesn't work because we don't need hunters for that, we have Bob Barker and dog pounds. :D

It's the same reason you can't kill a human and use every part of their body for food/clothing, it's just not socially acceptable.

p.s. I'm sorry I jumped on you before. I was a real dick and I apologize. I'm just tired and cranky today.

[Charla]

I think it's both a "dog" issue and a "cockfighting" issue (for lack of a more precise term). A cockfighter killing his gimpy roosters wouldn't bring down as much condemnation (in America) as killing the gimpy dogs would/did, but you'd still get arrested for it. And if you also played professional football, you'd become a headline for a few weeks. Refusing to let snipers cull the deer/squirrel/other cute animal population when they start overrunning a city would be a more appropriate juxtaposition to use to point out American idiocyncracies regarding hunting and animal rights.