November 13th DAT Mining

[Lordshin]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...goPPJ/taru.jpghttp://www.wrftpb.com/journals/kyle/...ar11-05-01.png

If they were going for that look, they should just make a huge wide-brimmed hat and a robe with giant '70s disco collars, and hide the face like with automatons.

i'm thinking That that may be Karaha(Sp?) in disguise... kinda like DiZ from KH2 at least thats what it reminded me of the first time i saw it...

[Kaslo]

Ok so I rewatched the Scholar Spells and the seasonal spells he uses the BLU spell animation for his arm movements o.O

[BRP]

I don't believe that is Karaha. Karaha was perfectly normal, highly respected, and died as a normal person. *Spoilers* What happens 20 years later in the Windurstian Storyline wouldn't have an effect on his appearance in the past. *spoilers*

[XingCai]

Ok, I downloaded the updated Altanaview list and when I went to see the Galka dances my viewer plays the Hume F dats instead, is there a way to fix this?
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...lkascrewup.jpg

[ircgeek]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i3...goPPJ/taru.jpg

http://www.fanboyplanet.com/guest/sc...es/Darkman.jpg

[Lordshin]

Your Galka Dance .Dats are wrong ; ; its playing HumeF (as stated above w/picture ;

[Spira]

Not quite the same, but thats whats it reminds me of anyways.

Uh... hmmm. I'm not sure where the second image comes from, but it doesn't really look anything alike to the bandaged Tarutaru.

I think the new armors all look pretty interesting, none bad enough to comment on at least. I'm surprised people are complaining about "reskins". Just about every single piece of armor in FFXI is made from the same couple of basic models(Aketon, Robe, Breastplate, etc) with a few exceptions in Artifact heads and 1-2 pieces per expansion.

The thing that irks me is that these are mostly 'simple' reskins. Earlier expansions have been able to put out entirely new models too so I wonder what is holding SE back on not looking so generic now..

Zilart: Don't know much about new content in that era, but AF would be a good example of new models

CoP: Igqira set, Bison, Barone, Homam, Nashira were all pretty complex reskins if not entirely new. Other models were mostly less obvious reskins, like Seers, Chasuble, Hachiman...

ToA: BLU COR PUP AF is a given. Sipahi, Yigit, Pahluwan and Amir were 'complexed' reskins in that you could kinda tell it was a sum of various parts kind of reskin, but not totally the same. The whole Salvage set looked kinda refreshingly different, maybe not Skadi. Nyzul gear, was mostly recoloring but used less common models to do so. Shadow Robe set = fail.

Ultimately, its not that bad to reskin or recolor but when you reskin the same ones over and over again.. it gets old fast.
This is especially true for a few certain types of armor, like the Harness, the Aketon and the Robe sets because there are so many existing variations of them already, it feels like its been dones to death.

[Lordwafik]

Not a single peice of salvage gear was unique. At most they have a new flap here and there.

[Raylinn]

To fix the garbled galka:

open list\pc\galka\action.csv
scroll down to dances
change all the 192 into 195

[Abel]

Am i the only person who is reminded of the gummi bears when I see a taru dancing? For those of you who can't remember or aren't old enough, here's a link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRTSZZgCUik compare that with a taru dancing, surprisingly similar.

[yrpaine]

Am i the only person who is reminded of the gummi bears when I see a taru dancing?

yes you were now i am going to have nightmares, or a toothache i can't decide

[Annatar]

Ok, I downloaded the updated Altanaview list and when I went to see the Galka dances my viewer plays the Hume F dats instead, is there a way to fix this?
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l3...lkascrewup.jpg

Hmmm, too bad not all Galkas don't look like this one when they dance.

[Spira]

Not a single peice of salvage gear was unique. At most they have a new flap here and there.

my point is that at least if they want to make new permutations of the same flaps, they can do it something like this
http://graphipedia.jp/image/Armor/Marduk/hm_Marduk.jpg
which is a mix and match reskin of Blu AF as well as some parts of a plate armor if im not wrong... at least they dont at all look similar...

instead of something like this
http://graphipedia.jp/image/Armor/Sh...adowCoat_f.jpg

I hope you're getting my point.

some models get too much reskinning done. Some could use a few more and it wouldnt hurt.

[Viena]

some models get too much reskinning done. Some could use a few more and it wouldnt hurt.

Last time they got pointed that out they answered "ps2 limitations". Which is false, of course, as each gear file contains model and textures.

[Zinnashin]

I love people who think they know the PS2 hardware and software inside and out to say there's no limitations on the PS2.

There's a reason its mostly reskins...because introducing new models means more for the PS2 to render, and if Whitegate alone isn't proof enough of how bad that would be, then well it's hopeless to explain. The only thing that will "ease" the limitations is dropping 56k cap, but there are sad souls who can't get higher than 56k due to geographical locations.

[Viena]

I love people who think they know the PS2 hardware and software inside and out to say there's no limitations on the PS2.

There's a reason its mostly reskins...because introducing new models means more for the PS2 to render, and if Whitegate alone isn't proof enough of how bad that would be, then well it's hopeless to explain. The only thing that will "ease" the limitations is dropping 56k cap, but there are sad souls who can't get higher than 56k due to geographical locations.

I love people who can't understand a simple reasoning based on the way ffxi stores models.

As each gear model is put in the same file as its respective textures, there is no saving of resources by using the same model on another file with a new texture, even if part of the content is common, as they will be treated independently. If they really wanted to save hardware resources by re-using models, you could load models and textures independently from different files (or sections from the same file), and that is not the case in either ps2/xb/pc.

Oh, and the way that FFXI is programmed, you would have the same lag in Whitegate if everyone there was a naked taru, so what's your proof?

[Caestus]

they should just recognize and -allow- players to change their dats coustomly and allow coustome UI. don't "Support" them but recognize them and allow them to be talked about in game without being banned lol.

[Solarus]

Ok, I downloaded the updated Altanaview list and when I went to see the Galka dances my viewer plays the Hume F dats instead, is there a way to fix this?

Whoops, my mistake. A product of my late night copypasta'ing.

To fix the garbled galka:

open list\pc\galka\action.csv
scroll down to dances
change all the 192 into 195

Thanks for pointing that out. What he said. Or re-download the file, I fixed it.

[kuronosan]

I love people who think they know the PS2 hardware and software inside and out to say there's no limitations on the PS2.

There's a reason its mostly reskins...because introducing new models means more for the PS2 to render, and if Whitegate alone isn't proof enough of how bad that would be, then well it's hopeless to explain. The only thing that will "ease" the limitations is dropping 56k cap, but there are sad souls who can't get higher than 56k due to geographical locations.

And just like releasing DX9- compatible FFXI clients must happen, so must doing something else to upgrade the flailing client. SE needs to get with the times. Even if there are people who can't get higher than 56k.

[ringthree]

Not a single peice of salvage gear was unique. At most they have a new flap here and there.

I do not believe there has been a completely new gear frame since CoP was released, but I could be wrong.