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    Re: Bonds Indicted

    I'm a Pirates fan it's what we do

    I know he's hit in the playoffs, I was just loosely using that as an example is all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xavier
    And I'd counter that by asking why the federal government devoted resources to congressional hearings on the use of steroids by baseball players in the first place.

    Good to know that everything else in America was running so smoothly that they can take the time to investigate a sport.

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    Don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone should get away with lying under oath, but I don't think it should have ever come down to that in the first place. Its a bit ridiculous.
    it falls under the umbrella of drug abuse, which is being investigated as a social health issue. Chris Benoit, illegal pharmaceutical distributions in Florida, etc, etc. it's not as simple as "some guy cheated and broke a sports record, let's go get him".

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche
    New evidence = Greg Anthony...who was released from prison today. What a cowinkydink!
    Greg Anderson, Anthony is the basketball player/commentator.

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    Re: Bonds Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Thevaultdweller
    I'm in no way defending Bonds by any stretch of the means
    By any stretch of the imagination + by any means?
    Yes. D: Bite me.

    I wonder how much coverage ESPN will get out of this.

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    Re: Bonds Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyche

    New evidence = Greg Anthony...who was released from prison today. What a cowinkydink!
    yea quite coincidental that when the grand jury ends, anderson was released since his only issue was not testifying to the grand jury. he kinda had to be let out since there was no longer any grand jury to testify too

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    Re: Bonds Indicted

    Quote Originally Posted by Deejay
    Quote Originally Posted by Elmer the Pointy
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    Wow lets derail into "but Clinton...". If that isn't the most tired argument/subject this side of the millenium I don't know what is.
    I just think it's funny, that's all. If a president lies to the public its ok, but if a POPULAR BASEBALL FIGURE HEAD DOES ITS SERIOUS BUSINESS! Throw that man in prison before he obstructs any more justice!
    ??

    Clinton was one of only two presidents in American history to be impeached. He was disbarred and nearly thrown out of office for the very same charges: perjury and obstruction of justice.
    Was he facing jailtime though? I remember the perjury stuff being brought up as a means to impeach him but I don't think he ever was indicted, was he? Damn I think I was like 11 when that happend, lol.
    They never got enough votes to remove him as President. http://www.news.cornell.edu/Chronicl...n-thumbsup.jpg

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    Re: Bonds Indicted

    even before 2002 (the year that PED's really took off in professional baseball), bonds was undoubtably going to the HOF as one of the greatest players ever

    this is a tough subject to discuss without people getting hot and bothered by it (and there are those type of people on both sides of the fence)

    as a person, bonds is an absolute douchebag, and he was that way before he started taking enhancers. look back when he was with pittsburgh, leyland had stated on numerous occasions that he and bonds were involved in a plethora of altercations (and leyland is one of the nicest most respected managers the game has ever seen)

    as a player, though, bonds is an absolute powerhouse, before and after the PED's, and I think he's definitely the scape goat for the Steroid/HGH generation of players, mostly due in part to the fact that everyone knows he lied under oath, but more importantly he's a dick to the press and everyone that isn't family, and for that everyone hates him and wants him to fail

    it's a shame that out of the hundreds, maybe thousands of professional baseball players that have used PED's, corked their bats, physically altered baseballs, used unsportsmanlike conduct on the field, that barry bonds is the one that will be given a face to all of the aforementioned shortcomings. Why? I think it's because people dislike the image he's given himself, and how he handles interviews with reporters and the press.

    did bonds use PED's? well, duh. but so did many other players, many of whom are your favorites and mine, on our favorite teams

    the only difference is that bonds was the best athlete of them all and proved this by breaking records, and because of how great a player he was all of the focus will be on him, and not the many other cheaters the game has seen (Sheffield, Giambi, Anderson, Sosa, McGwire, and more recent discoveries like Jose Guillen, etc.)

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    LOL Deejay, why don't you just come right out and say it: "They're going after him because he's black." :D

    Between this and the Duck Season thread I'm beginning to think you're the Al Sharpton of this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Norelco
    LOL Deejay, why don't you just come right out and say it: "They're going after him because he's black." :D
    +4 pages?

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